Why do the poorest and reddest states who claim to hate the federal government…

[RagnarLothbrok]

…always receive the most money from it?

Yep, you guessed it. Even though the federal government only funds a small percentage of K-12 nationally, it’s the reddest states that are sucking up the majority of the funding.

I say cut them off completely—with everything related to federal government—and let them fend for themselves.

With the Dept. of Education on the chopping block, these are the states that rely most on federal school funding

The end of the agency doesn't necessarily mean that federal school funds will dry up, but some states would be hurt more than others if the department were eliminated.

www.yahoo.com

 

[HawkNester]

Because they’re hypocrites /thread

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Because they’re hypocrites /thread

Among many other things.

Seriously, though. Why do they keep taking from the federal government? In the spirit of @NoWokeBloke, “FU then.” No more handouts.

 

[Mayland]

…always receive the most money from it?

Yep, you guessed it. Even though the federal government only funds a small percentage of K-12 nationally, it’s the reddest states that are sucking up the majority of the funding.

I say cut them off completely—with everything related to federal government—and let them fend for themselves.

With the Dept. of Education on the chopping block, these are the states that rely most on federal school funding

The end of the agency doesn't necessarily mean that federal school funds will dry up, but some states would be hurt more than others if the department were eliminated.

www.yahoo.com

Would you include federal outlays to native Americans and other minorities in that proposal?
Also, I’m assuming I would have to pay no federal income taxes if I live in a red state as well.

 

[Bonerfarts]

It's not hard to make people fall for your propaganda when they don't have the tools to think for themselves.

 

[abby97]

It's not hard to make people fall for your propaganda when they don't have the tools to think for themselves.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Schools fight special ed fiercely regardless of the state.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

…always receive the most money from it?

Yep, you guessed it. Even though the federal government only funds a small percentage of K-12 nationally, it’s the reddest states that are sucking up the majority of the funding.

I say cut them off completely—with everything related to federal government—and let them fend for themselves.

With the Dept. of Education on the chopping block, these are the states that rely most on federal school funding

The end of the agency doesn't necessarily mean that federal school funds will dry up, but some states would be hurt more than others if the department were eliminated.

www.yahoo.com

Always enjoy watching the libs flail on about this.

Often it's the major cities, most of which are blue, that drags down a respective state.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Always enjoy watching the libs flail on about this.

Often it's the major cities, most of which are blue, that drags down a respective state.

Lol.

Mississippi? Arkansas? Oklahoma? Montana? North Dakota?

All states well renowned for their major metropolises.

Good to see you still wear stupid as a badge of honor. Never change, Northern. You are special.

 

[MitchLL]

Republicans = Trash

 

[NoleATL]

always receive the most money from it?

It is welfare... plain and simple.

 

[Mayland]

Lol.

Mississippi? Arkansas? Oklahoma? Montana? North Dakota?

All states well renowned for their major metropolises.

Good to see you still wear stupid as a badge of honor. Never change, Northern. You are special.

North Dakota would be fine. We have 10 billion in the bank and highest marginal state income tax rate is 2.5%. We could raise that slightly if we needed to.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

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Lol.

Mississippi? Arkansas? Oklahoma? Montana? North Dakota?

All states well renowned for their major metropolises.

Good to see you still wear stupid as a badge of honor. Never change, Northern. You are special.

Here is a 2024 election map so that you can further educate yourself. You can click on each state. You will see the blue pockets in each state, with Oklahoma being the notable exception.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president?election-data-id=2024-PG&election-painting-mode=projection-with-lead&filter-key-races=false&filter-flipped=false&filter-remaining=false

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

…always receive the most money from it?

Yep, you guessed it. Even though the federal government only funds a small percentage of K-12 nationally, it’s the reddest states that are sucking up the majority of the funding.

I say cut them off completely—with everything related to federal government—and let them fend for themselves.

With the Dept. of Education on the chopping block, these are the states that rely most on federal school funding

The end of the agency doesn't necessarily mean that federal school funds will dry up, but some states would be hurt more than others if the department were eliminated.

www.yahoo.com

Because they look over their shoulder and see a certain group of people not working and receiving government hand outs. The people in those red states sucking up the majority of the funding aren't voting for Republicans. We all know who's sucking up the federal funding in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Would you include federal outlays to native Americans and other minorities in that proposal?
Also, I’m assuming I would have to pay no federal income taxes if I live in a red state as well.

What does race have to do with money spent per public school student?

 

[Bearhawk0505]

They have huge percentages on Medicaid and SNAP also. Without SS, parts of poor rural states would look like a third world country. Although many like to claim they don’t need government, I would argue the appetite/need for government services has never been greater.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

We all know who's sucking up the federal funding in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana

Pray tell.

This is gonna be good.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Would you include federal outlays to native Americans and other minorities in that proposal?
Also, I’m assuming I would have to pay no federal income taxes if I live in a red state as well.

Lol. What?

 

[Rifler]

What's not to understand?,.. A person can can need something and hate it at the same time.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

They have huge percentages on Medicaid and SNAP also. Without SS, parts of poor rural states would look like a third world country. Although many like to claim they don’t need government, I would argue the appetite/need for government services has never been greater.

I pretty much got the responses I was expecting from the MIB.

These people are idiots.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

What's not to understand?,.. A person can can need something and hate it at the same time.

Yep.

Government for me but not for thee!

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

@RagnarLothbrok , your days of insulting your way out of untenable positions are at an end.

 

[Nole Lou]

I say cut them off completely—with everything related to federal government—and let them fend for themselves.

So, you would cut off federal funding for the states with the highest percentage of minorities?

Would you cut off funding just for white people somehow, but keep it going for minorities? Do you really think the federal aid is mostly going into white and MAGA communities in these states?

 

[Mayland]

Lol. What?

I’m just saying, lots of federal dollars flow to Indian reservations in these red states. You’re fine with letting them fend for themselves also?

 

[scruffyhawk]

Schools fight special ed fiercely regardless of the state.

Which is unfortunate for absolutely everyone. A kid who was Special ed when I was in elementary bagged my groceries within the last year. I'm in my 40s. One of the fellow employees by the door told me customers love asking him how he's doing and he brightens everyone's day. Not sure anyone saw that coming 30 plus years ago when he was a distraction, but now I'm thankful he was.

 

[Mayland]

What does race have to do with money spent per public school student?

He’s advocating cutting off federal aid to red states. Where I’m from, the largest minority is American Indians. The reservations get a lot of federal dollars. They would be affected much more greatly than the rest of the population if federal dollars went away.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Pray tell.

This is gonna be good.

You're probably not as dumb as you sound so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you already know.

 

[Hammerhead02]

He’s advocating cutting off federal aid to red states. Where I’m from, the largest minority is American Indians. The reservations get a lot of federal dollars. They would be affected much more greatly than the rest of the population if federal dollars went away.

Ahh. I get your point now.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I’m just saying, lots of federal dollars flow to Indian reservations in these red states. You’re fine with letting them fend for themselves also?

Yes.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Still waiting for my “red state check”.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

You're probably not as dumb as you sound so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you already know.

Lol.

I’m sure I do sound dumb in the presence of your intellectual prowess.

I would still love for you to articulate why states like North Dakota and Montana take in a higher percentage of federal funding for education than other states. Since you can’t blame it on the blacks, are you going with the Native Americans?

 

[BelemNole]

So, you would cut off federal funding for the states with the highest percentage of minorities?

Would you cut off funding just for white people somehow, but keep it going for minorities? Do you really think the federal aid is mostly going into white and MAGA communities in these states?

Me? No, I'd have trump/musk stop fuqing around with things they don't understand. However the fact that the reddest states will suffer the most is amusing.

 

[Mayland]

Lol.

I’m sure I do sound dumb in the presence of your intellectual prowess.

I would still love for you to articulate why states like North Dakota and Montana take in a higher percentage of federal funding for education than other states. Since you can’t blame it on the blacks, are you going with the Native Americans?

One theory I have is that basically the denominator is low. In other words, on a per student basis, maybe those states’ don’t fund education to the level states like CA and NY do. So if the amount of federal spending per student is the same, it would skew the % higher.

 

[1Hammers1]

I really get a kick out of the daily outrage. Mississippi who gets a giant 23 percent of each students education cost. 6695x.23.3= 1539 per student per year. But New York only gets 7.1 percent. 36293x7.1= 2576 per student per year.
Your link is stupid and you fell for it.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

One theory I have is that basically the denominator is low. In other words, on a per student basis, maybe those states’ don’t fund education to the level states like CA and NY do. So if the amount of federal spending per student is the same, it would skew the % higher.

I think that’s the entire point—those states are funding education.

I’m not sure how that percentage would be skewed in the way you described. If California and New York have a much greater population than Montana and South Dakota, wouldn’t that mean those states would be getting more federal money “if the amount of federal spending per student is the same “?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I really get a kick out of the daily outrage. Mississippi who gets a giant 23 percent of each students education cost. 6695x.23.3= 1539 per student per year. But New York only gets 7.1 percent. 36293x7.1= 2576 per student per year.
Your link is stupid and you fell for it.

Did you read the article? Did you understand the map? Did you just pull those numbers out of your bunghole?

“Mississippi, for example, gets $3,000 per student from the federal government to supplement about $10,000 from state and local sources. That means federal funds make up nearly a quarter of the state’s education budget, the most of any state.”

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

@RagnarLothbrok , your days of insulting your way out of untenable positions are at an end.

Northern, I know this is a foreign concept for people like you who rely on “many are saying” to shape your opinions, but what has been posted in the OP are what’s known as facts.

 

[Mayland]

I think that’s the entire point—those states are funding education.

I’m not sure how that percentage would be skewed in the way you described. If California and New York have a much greater population than Montana and South Dakota, wouldn’t that mean those states would be getting more federal money “if the amount of federal spending per student is the same “?

I guess I’m looking at all these on a per capita basis. Let’s say North Dakota and California both get $5000/student from the federal government, but the state of CA funds education at $20,000/student and ND funds education at $10,000/student. Obviously, on a % basis ND will have a larger % of education funding coming from the feds. I’m not saying that’s the case, just a possibility why the numbers look like they do.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

So, you would cut off federal funding for the states with the highest percentage of minorities?

Would you cut off funding just for white people somehow, but keep it going for minorities? Do you really think the federal aid is mostly going into white and MAGA communities in these states?

South Dakota and Montana are well over 80% white. In Mississippi, 55% are white with 35% being black.

Do you even understand how education funding from the federal government works? Do you believe it’s predominantly black kids getting funded for special education? Do you even remember the last time your head wasn’t buried firmly inside of your ass?

Good to know, though, that it’s not just libs who generate false narratives about race.

You guys are ****ing idiots.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I guess I’m looking at all these on a per capita basis. Let’s say North Dakota and California both get $5000/student from the federal government, but the state of CA funds education at $20,000/student and ND funds education at $10,000/student. Obviously, on a % basis ND will have a larger % of education funding coming from the feds. I’m not saying that’s the case, just a possibility why the numbers look like they do.

The article clearly explains all of that.

The percentages per student are not close to being the same.