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Why does men's college basketball use halves when every other kind of basketball uses quarters?

mro1978

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Just wondering what the reason is. High school uses quarters, the NBA uses quarters, college girls use quarters. Why still use halves?
 
No idea why. But when major colleges have all the media timeouts anyway, they might as well switch to quarters.

Also, Wisconsin HIGHSCHOOL boys/girls use halves
 
No idea why. But when major colleges have all the media timeouts anyway, they might as well switch to quarters.

Also, Wisconsin HIGHSCHOOL boys/girls use halves
And they don't have a shot clock? Has there been a game with only 2 possessions?
 
I'm ambivalent to halves vs. quarters but being the only version of the sport that uses halves is notable and odd.
 
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And they don't have a shot clock? Has there been a game with only 2 possessions?

If you watched the 4 corner offense prior to the shot clock, prior to the rule addition of the close guarding distance 5 count, you will know that there were some games that had very few possessions. Iowa played in some, and the triple OT game against Minny in the old fieldhouse when RLester was maybe a Sr., was one with possessions lasting minutes upon minutes for each possession. A phantom foul on Iowa on a 40 ft shot at the end of the 3rd OT led to winning free throws for Minny as the refs needed to leave town.

They were nail biting because one turnover or one miss was HUGE but they were also boring. Remember in 1970 Iowa avgd about 100 points a game and 5 or 6 years later there were a lot of very low scoring games.

I will say though that watching Ronnie Lester dribble drive around a whole team of defenders was awesome. He might drive toward the basket but if it was a clean layup he would weave in and around all the defenders to bring it back out high or pass to Arnold or some other teammate.
 
If you watched the 4 corner offense prior to the shot clock, prior to the rule addition of the close guarding distance 5 count, you will know that there were some games that had very few possessions. Iowa played in some, and the triple OT game against Minny in the old fieldhouse when RLester was maybe a Sr., was one with possessions lasting minutes upon minutes for each possession. A phantom foul on Iowa on a 40 ft shot at the end of the 3rd OT led to winning free throws for Minny as the refs needed to leave town.

They were nail biting because one turnover or one miss was HUGE but they were also boring. Remember in 1970 Iowa avgd about 100 points a game and 5 or 6 years later there were a lot of very low scoring games.

I will say though that watching Ronnie Lester dribble drive around a whole team of defenders was awesome. He might drive toward the basket but if it was a clean layup he would weave in and around all the defenders to bring it back out high or pass to Arnold or some other teammate.
I've seen my fair share of small school IA girls high school basketball growing up. Rather risk only scoring 8 points instead of getting blown out. But I haven't had the pleasure? of viewing that in college ball.
 
If you watched the 4 corner offense prior to the shot clock, prior to the rule addition of the close guarding distance 5 count, you will know that there were some games that had very few possessions. Iowa played in some, and the triple OT game against Minny in the old fieldhouse when RLester was maybe a Sr., was one with possessions lasting minutes upon minutes for each possession. A phantom foul on Iowa on a 40 ft shot at the end of the 3rd OT led to winning free throws for Minny as the refs needed to leave town.

They were nail biting because one turnover or one miss was HUGE but they were also boring. Remember in 1970 Iowa avgd about 100 points a game and 5 or 6 years later there were a lot of very low scoring games.

I will say though that watching Ronnie Lester dribble drive around a whole team of defenders was awesome. He might drive toward the basket but if it was a clean layup he would weave in and around all the defenders to bring it back out high or pass to Arnold or some other teammate.

The game was February 27, 1982 and Ronnie was long gone. The rest is pretty accurate.


"Mitchell, a 6'5" senior guard, was poised as he clutched a tough rebound after a missed Iowa shot with eight seconds left in Overtime 3. He looked under control as he dribbled up the floor and over the time line and then whirled 360 degrees to avoid a steal. "He overlapped it; he playgrounded it all the way," Iowa's freshman center, Michael Payne, said later. Mitchell seemed to be comfortable even as he jumped and launched a no-chance prayer from maybe 40 feet, and he acted merely relieved when the Hawks' Mark Gannon was whistled for the unnecessary, fateful foul."
 
Or how about a running clock like soccer with the mystery "added time" at the end where nobody knows when the game ends. That's always made a lot of sense.
the world cup finally started doing stoppage time of the stoppage time, but when does that end? Stoppage time of stoppage time of stoppage time. stop the clock when the action stops. sounds so easy.
 
the world cup finally started doing stoppage time of the stoppage time, but when does that end? Stoppage time of stoppage time of stoppage time. stop the clock when the action stops. sounds so easy.
It's a shame that technology hasn't progressed to the point where they could just signal the guy running the clock to stop it during a break in play...then restart it when play resumes.
 
The game was February 27, 1982 and Ronnie was long gone. The rest is pretty accurate.


"Mitchell, a 6'5" senior guard, was poised as he clutched a tough rebound after a missed Iowa shot with eight seconds left in Overtime 3. He looked under control as he dribbled up the floor and over the time line and then whirled 360 degrees to avoid a steal. "He overlapped it; he playgrounded it all the way," Iowa's freshman center, Michael Payne, said later. Mitchell seemed to be comfortable even as he jumped and launched a no-chance prayer from maybe 40 feet, and he acted merely relieved when the Hawks' Mark Gannon was whistled for the unnecessary, fateful foul."
That was it and it must have been an earlier year when Lester did his thing
 
That was it and it must have been an earlier year when Lester did his thing
Ronnie's last year was 1980. He was a master ball-handler.

You may be thinking of the infamous game with Michigan State that year when Jud Heathcote had his team cross half court and just stand there holding the ball to run clock. Iowa won 44-39 in OT but it was something like 9-7 at halftime.

The shot clock was introduced to college hoops a few years later.
 
The correct answer is that they have developed a 16 - 12 - 8 - 4 media timeoute system for ad revenue. If they went to quarters, an under 5 - quarter - under 5 system would lose one commercial cycle. They haven't come up with a creative way around that to implement a system that doesn't lose ad revenue.
 
Ronnie's last year was 1980. He was a master ball-handler.

You may be thinking of the infamous game with Michigan State that year when Jud Heathcote had his team cross half court and just stand there holding the ball to run clock. Iowa won 44-39 in OT but it was something like 9-7 at halftime.

The shot clock was introduced to college hoops a few years later.
Oh yes, could be. We were at that game and Heathcote was a jerk. He was standing on the court for about half the game directing his players.

And not one technical. That is the kind of reffing bullshit that helped drive Lute away.
 
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If you watched the 4 corner offense prior to the shot clock, prior to the rule addition of the close guarding distance 5 count, you will know that there were some games that had very few possessions. Iowa played in some, and the triple OT game against Minny in the old fieldhouse when RLester was maybe a Sr., was one with possessions lasting minutes upon minutes for each possession. A phantom foul on Iowa on a 40 ft shot at the end of the 3rd OT led to winning free throws for Minny as the refs needed to leave town.

They were nail biting because one turnover or one miss was HUGE but they were also boring. Remember in 1970 Iowa avgd about 100 points a game and 5 or 6 years later there were a lot of very low scoring games.

I will say though that watching Ronnie Lester dribble drive around a whole team of defenders was awesome. He might drive toward the basket but if it was a clean layup he would weave in and around all the defenders to bring it back out high or pass to Arnold or some other teammate.
Mark Gannon got called for the mystery foul. It was a terrible way to end the game.
 
The correct answer is that they have developed a 16 - 12 - 8 - 4 media timeoute system for ad revenue. If they went to quarters, an under 5 - quarter - under 5 system would lose one commercial cycle. They haven't come up with a creative way around that to implement a system that doesn't lose ad revenue.
We could just go with 10 4 minutes quarters. Not sure why we need so many media timeouts. Teams should be able to press all game and not be worn out.
 
The correct answer is that they have developed a 16 - 12 - 8 - 4 media timeoute system for ad revenue. If they went to quarters, an under 5 - quarter - under 5 system would lose one commercial cycle. They haven't come up with a creative way around that to implement a system that doesn't lose ad revenue.
Have additional ads (longer commercial breaks) at the end of the first three quarters.
 
My question would be...Who cares?

Seems to me, the game as it is today is pretty near perfect. If I could change anything, I would figure out a way to keep the clock moving during the last couple of minutes of the game. I watched a game a week or so ago where it took 12+real time minutes to play the last two minutes of the game. That’s ridiculous.
 
My question would be...Who cares?

Seems to me, the game as it is today is pretty near perfect. If I could change anything, I would figure out a way to keep the clock moving during the last couple of minutes of the game. I watched a game a week or so ago where it took 12+real time minutes to play the last two minutes of the game. That’s ridiculous.
There's always somebody who has to dick around with things, even if they're working well.
 
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