WIN magazine has Iowa pre-season ranked 10th.
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Hard to believe with our dynasty program that we could use the words "Question Marks" but.... with the Question Marks that Iowa has at certain weights right now, putting us in the number 10 spot sounds about right.
That's absolutely ridiculous. I would be utterly shocked if Iowa finished 10th. I see us somewhere around 4 to 6.
I love the optimism vodka, but don't forget the Hawks finished 4th last year and we've graduated Sammy Brooks (4th), Gillman (3rd) and Clark (Champ). The Hawks are going to have a hard time scoring at 125 and 133 this season. While I agree that we likely finish higher than 10th. I'm thinking more in the 6-8 range. The field is DEEP this year the Hawks need a whole lot to go right for us to finish top 5.
LOL So, you love the optimism of finishing 6th rather than 10th?
From where I sit, there isn't much difference between 4th and 10th, and I'm a glass-half-full type of guy.
Very realistic assessment. Need a lot to go right to get top 5 this year (Downey, healthy Stoll, Marinelli making a big leap).
Agree. WIN has both Marinelli and Young ranked 16th, which is too low, imho. Likewise (assuming he stays healthy), Stoll would likely finish better than 8th. Downy not figured in, for now. Taking a "wait and see" on that. Iowa will be rebuilding next year, but should do better than 10th.
It does look like a 2 horse race, between PSU and tOSU, with PSU a pretty strong favorite. WIN's predicted AA's:
PSU - 1,1,1,1,1,5,7
tOSU - 1,1,2,2,2,3,7
Iowa - 2,3,8 yikes.....
Agree. WIN has both Marinelli and Young ranked 16th, which is too low, imho. Likewise (assuming he stays healthy), Stoll would likely finish better than 8th. Downy not figured in, for now. Taking a "wait and see" on that. Iowa will be rebuilding next year, but should do better than 10th.
It does look like a 2 horse race, between PSU and tOSU, with PSU a pretty strong favorite. WIN's predicted AA's:
PSU - 1,1,1,1,1,5,7
tOSU - 1,1,2,2,2,3,7
Iowa - 2,3,8 yikes.....
Cheer up. That "8" for Iowa might actually place 3rd!
Here is my bold prediction. The Bull places higher than Cenzo at nationals.
Last year the difference between 4th and 10th was 50 points. That's pretty significant. I don't see us scoring 50 less points at NCAAs this season. But I wouldn't be surprised if they scored 25-30 points less. I think we get solid AA performances at 149, 157, 165, 174 and Hwt (I still don't acknowledge PDIII as a Hawk). Decent shot at 141 I suppose (Turk and Happel will battle it out, but 141 is loaded). Our scorers will be fun to watch, but there just isn't enough firepower to crack top 5 IMHO. 2018-2019 however, is going to be fun!
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Yup, absolutely ridiculous. Maybe you figure on Michigan, Missouri, and Lehigh not competing this year. However, you could be proven correct and pull a 6th if your shiny new transfer can keep his nose clean, make grades, and back off on the BJ vids.
Sure, why not. 100 beans to Wrestling For Life? I'm good for it, as I'm sure you are as well. I'll have to put a reminder on my calendar for March, and I will. I won't forget ya, don't forget me. It's a win/win.
Cool, just put a reminder on my calendar for March 18th, 2018 titled "Iowa not to place top 6, $100 to WFL". Lol. Good deal, glad you asked. Something good can come from anything, right?
Could well happen, might not happen also. Injuries, bad draws, fluke losses, blah, blah, blah. Worst case scenario, I buy some kids some shoes, or an entry into a tourny.
Yea but 12th doesn't score many points. They have to be AAs to make an impact and neither has proven it yet. Marinelli was absolutely destroyed by Valencia who couldn't AA last year. 65 this year is even tougher. Hopefully AM is that guy but he hasn't shown it yet.
I also don't see more than 3-4 points out of the first 3 weights (most if not all at 141).
The best in the country at developing lightweights, with no one ranked in the top 20 at 125, 133, and 141. Pretty sad.
I've said it over and over, I believe Spencer wrestles this year.
Early congrats on winning the bet
I hope he feels well enough and progresses far enough in the room to compete this season.
First half
125 Stickley
133 Laux
141 Turk/Happel
149 Sorensen
157 Kemmerer
165 Marinelli
174 Young
184 Bowman
197 Wilke
285 Holloway
2nd half team
125 Lee
133 Laux
141 Turk/Happel (Lugo)
149 Sorensen
157 Kemmerer
165 Marinelli
174 Young
184 Downey
197 Wilke
285 Stoll
I think if everything falls into place Iowa can bring home a trophey.
125 Stickley
133 Laux
141 Turk/Happel
149 Sorensen
157 Kemmerer
165 Marinelli
174 Young
184 Bowman
197 Wilke
285 Holloway
2nd half team
125 Lee
133 Laux
141 Turk/Happel (Lugo)
149 Sorensen
157 Kemmerer
165 Marinelli
174 Young
184 Downey
197 Wilke
285 Stoll
I think if everything falls into place Iowa can bring home a trophey.
Might almost break 100 with Lee and PD3...
If Iowa breaks 100 - I will invite Michelle back on FB.
Iowa WILL finish above 10th and have a shot at top 5. The BULL & Young are lucky to be ranked right now. They have yet to prove anything. What I do know is Sorensen and Kem are finalist. PDIII could EASILY make the finals or wrestle in the 3rd place match. If Stoll stays healthy he is wrestling for 3rd.
Now for the new kids. The BULL will AA anywhere from 4-8. Young will score a TON of bonus points and become a fan favorite and should AA in that 6-8 range. Gylnn making the cut and and he is a goer but 2 to 4 pts. is a logical bet here. Laux is tough but just gets out muscled similar result of 2 to 4 pts. Turk is dun ro watch but 141 is crazy tough a rd of 12 here would be GREAT here. The Wildcard is Cash money. He made a real nice run last year and 197 might be the easiest weight next year. With that being said I don't expect much more than a rd of 12 here.
What does all this mean.... top 5 is within reach but that's all. I personally think fosu is the team to beat not psu. But that's just how I feel. Iowa has 1 Champ, 2 finalist and 6 AAs.
My top 5
1. Fosu
2. Psu
3. Oky State
4. Michigan
5. Iowa
Now for the new kids. The BULL will AA anywhere from 4-8. Young will score a TON of bonus points and become a fan favorite and should AA in that 6-8 range. Gylnn making the cut and and he is a goer but 2 to 4 pts. is a logical bet here. Laux is tough but just gets out muscled similar result of 2 to 4 pts. Turk is dun ro watch but 141 is crazy tough a rd of 12 here would be GREAT here. The Wildcard is Cash money. He made a real nice run last year and 197 might be the easiest weight next year. With that being said I don't expect much more than a rd of 12 here.
What does all this mean.... top 5 is within reach but that's all. I personally think fosu is the team to beat not psu. But that's just how I feel. Iowa has 1 Champ, 2 finalist and 6 AAs.
My top 5
1. Fosu
2. Psu
3. Oky State
4. Michigan
5. Iowa
Yep - your lil sis. I blv we had a difference of opinion about some of the last few presidents - so I cut her loose when she thought Hillary unconditionally was the best thing for the USA. As a military guy with protecting the country in mind - I thought HBC was not the answer ... sorry dude
That is a fair assessment. Some people have said that Laux grown into a full size 133 so hopefully he isn't outmuscled this year. If he hasn't, why on earth wouldn't he get down to 125?
I am also very interested to see what weights Wilcke/Downey end up at. Both are true 184 guys I think but Downey could legitimately win 197 if he can add the size.
If Brands pulls Lee's redshirt so the team can finish 5th instead of 7th, he should be fired.
If we finish better than 5th will you stop posting here for a year?
Brands has made it clear. The shirt pull is based on an individual's chance for success not for the team. Exactly how many true freshmen have wrestled under Brands? Lee could but it would not so the team gets a higher finish. It would only be if he is ready and if Lee and his parents think it is in his best interest to go this year.
As a PSU fan, that's exactly what I hope to see happen....
Oh wait.... better explain myself so y'all aren't whining I'm a Brands hater. I want to see Lees shirt pulled....not see Brands fired.
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