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Wingnut Senators Block Mental Health Bill

Nov 28, 2010
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Two right-wing Senators are blocking a bipartisan mental health bill that would provide 40 million dollars to extend funding for mental health courts for five years, establish more crisis intervention teams to cooperate with law enforcement officers, and provide more extensive mental health screening for veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress. The Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act, co-sponsored by Senator Al Franken (D-MN) and Representative Rich Nugent (R-FL), enjoys broad bi-partisan support. However, according to the Minneapolis Star & Tribune, an unnamed source reports that the legislation is being blocked from going to a floor vote by right-wing Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.

The Franken Bill would provide much needed mental health services and tools for police and the courts to address deficiencies in the nation’s mental health system. The legislation should be uncontroversial, but Mike Lee and Tom Coburn adhere dogmatically to an anti-government ideology that would even deny combat veterans and others suffering from mental illness, access to critical services. Franken’s bill has 15 Republican co-sponsors in the US House and 13 in the US Senate, but Coburn and Lee still insist on stalling the legislation. Senate GOP sponsors include staunch conservatives like Mike Enzi (WY), Pat Roberts (KS), Orrin Hatch (UT), Chuck Grassly (IA) and Roy Blunt (MO), as well as more moderate Republican Senators, including Susan Collins (ME), Rob Portman (OH) and Kelly Ayotte (NH).


Conservatives who oppose gun control often argue that instead we need to do something about mentally ill people who become killers, yet when given the opportunity to approve of expanding mental services, conservative lawmakers like Lee and Coburn refuse to fulfill their obligation to do so. Mike Lee is a repeat offender. The Utah Senator joined Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) in April by refusing to reauthorize and improve federal programs related to mental health and substance use disorders.

Right-wing and Libertarian opponents of gun control frequently argue that better mental health care, not new gun laws, are needed to prevent future mass shootings. Al Franken’s amendment is designed to provide better mental health care for Americans who need it, but right-wing and Libertarian heroes Tom Coburn and Mike Lee are blocking that legislation. The words of support for better mental health care ring hollow if they are not backed up by legislative action.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/24/right-wing-senators-blocking-franken-mental-health-bill.html
 
Regardless of whether the story is 2 years old or 2 weeks old or 2 decades old, if the Senate rules enable two people to block a vote on a bill that has bi-partisan support then the Senate rules need to be changed.
 
Regardless of whether the story is 2 years old or 2 weeks old or 2 decades old, if the Senate rules enable two people to block a vote on a bill that has bi-partisan support then the Senate rules need to be changed.

They already did that. Remember when Harry Reid went nuclear?

Paybacks are gonna be a bitch.
 
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They already did that. Remember when Harry Reid went nuclear?

Paybacks are gonna be a bitch.
I'm not interested in paybacks. I'm interested in seeing our congressional representatives do the job they were elected to do. It's hard enough getting Rs and Ds to agree on anything. When they finally do agree on something that has the potential to be good for society then I don't want to see two knuckleheads pissing in the punchbowl.
 
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I'm not interested in paybacks. I'm interested in seeing our congressional representatives do the job they were elected to do. It's hard enough getting Rs and Ds to agree on anything. When they finally do agree on something that has the potential to be good for society then I don't want to see two knuckleheads pissing in the punchbowl.

They were elected to represent the wishes of their constituents. Not the wishes of the president. Not the wishes of the senate leadership. Not the wishes of the media. If their constituents don't like what they're doing, they'll throw the bums out.
 
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They were elected to represent the wishes of their constituents. Not the wishes of the president. Not the wishes of the senate leadership. Not the wishes of the media. If their constituents don't like what they're doing, they'll throw the bums out.
They have the option of voting against the bill if they believe that's what their constituents want. But even if the people of Utah and Oklahoma supported their stance, 2 people should not have the power to stop the other 98 from at least holding a vote. Especially when it seems clear that the majority are in favor of the bill.
 
Anybody here have experience with mental health courts? I'd be curious to read how you guys think this stuff works (if at all).
 
You do realize this is over 2 years old right? I bet you saw the article somewhere (likely Facebook or media matters), and about pissed yourself rushing to post it. What a hack.
Does doing the wrong think have a expiry date?

I'll confess I didn't notice the date, but why do you think that changes the point?

This is exactly the kind of BS we've come to expect from the the GOP - even when some of their own are co-sponsoring what seems like no-brainer legislation.
 
Does doing the wrong think have a expiry date?

I'll confess I didn't notice the date, but why do you think that changes the point?

This is exactly the kind of BS we've come to expect from the the GOP - even when some of their own are co-sponsoring what seems like no-brainer legislation.

It is ridiculous to post a 2 year old article without stating as such, it is borderline dishonest and is somewhat irrelevant for the current time.

Its topic is still important.
 
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It is ridiculous to post a 2 year old article without stating as such, it is borderline dishonest and is somewhat irrelevant for the current time.

Its topic is still important.
I feel so humiliated. ;)

I disagree about the relevance, though. Since the GOP keeps doing this shit. Especially when it involves any care for veterans.
 
I feel so humiliated. ;)

I disagree about the relevance, though. Since the GOP keeps doing this shit. Especially when it involves any care for veterans.

Look, if Franken introduced it I'm sure there was some sort of poison pill and the veterans were supposed to distract Republicans from noticing the problem.
 
They were elected to represent the wishes of their constituents. Not the wishes of the president. Not the wishes of the senate leadership. Not the wishes of the media. If their constituents don't like what they're doing, they'll throw the bums out.
They are not elected just to do what their constituents want, or don't want. They are supposed to have enough intelligence and have a conscience and to do what is right, as they think is right.
 
They are not elected just to do what their constituents want, or don't want. They are supposed to have enough intelligence and have a conscience and to do what is right, as they think is right.

Exactly. If they were solely supposed to do what their constituents want we could just have popular voting.
 
Coburn will never get voted out. He represents the state that's like the embarrassing, violent, inbred cousin of the rest of the states.
 
Regardless of whether the story is 2 years old or 2 weeks old or 2 decades old, if the Senate rules enable two people to block a vote on a bill that has bi-partisan support then the Senate rules need to be changed.

That is how the senate is supposed to work. The dems just blocked the refugee bill that demands extra scrutiny when 50 out of 180 dems voted for it in the house. Seems like a no brainer since law officials have stated that they are unable to screen them now but a couple dems stopped it. This has been happening for years s on both sides. Hell there were bills Harry Reid didn't bring to the floor that had bipartisan support. Pissed me off but the senate isn't set up to pass every bill.
 
They were elected to represent the wishes of their constituents. Not the wishes of the president. Not the wishes of the senate leadership. Not the wishes of the media. If their constituents don't like what they're doing, they'll throw the bums out.

Sometimes their constituents are wrong, or simply idiots. They need to do what's best for the people of this once great nation, not just the bumbling constituents that voted them in.

I could understand if it was something like subsidies being taken away from their state, thus hurting them economically, but help with for people with mental health issues? That's where the constituency lines should be crossed.
 
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