With Berge Out
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With Kem and Marinelli here for the next 4-5 years and Turk likely moving up to 149 after BS is gone I'm not sure we need to spend a whole lot on any of the weights. Brands will come in a do real well. Just my opinion though.
There seems to be a lot of talk about Brands like it's a sure thing. Has he or Terry even mentioned it? I thought they were both being pretty tight lipped about it.
I have zero info, and I'm not trolling. Was just curious if there was anything other than being Terry's son to indicate he wants to wrestle in college, let alone at Iowa. Wrestling at Iowa is a huge commitment, not everyone wants that. Not everyone would want to wrestle for their Dad, or go to their Dad's alma mater when he's a legend, either.
I have zero info, and I'm not trolling. Was just curious if there was anything other than being Terry's son to indicate he wants to wrestle in college, let alone at Iowa. Wrestling at Iowa is a huge commitment, not everyone wants that. Not everyone would want to wrestle for their Dad, or go to their Dad's alma mater when he's a legend, either.
Yea, Nelson said it'd be weird wrestling anywhere but Iowa.
Nelson looks like Terry and Tom out there. Only getting better. Shapiro no idea but his TW profile had 50,000 viewz a few years ago. I do think WLew is gonna join us. Pls Flo make more stories about my/our comments. BTW let's have a Great Season
He's taken some losses due to injury lately, but is much better then his current ranking.
On Nelson, we also have no idea what level he can get to as a wrestler. Just because his dad got to the highest of levels doesn't mean Nelson will be that good, and it's unfair to compare him to it. Right now, Berge is a better wrestler, so it's even more unfair to paint this as "Brands can replace Berge".
Nelson Brands is improving by the day. That said, he's a lock to Iowa, that much is certain. He's also an in-state recruit and Son of a Coach, just like Fran McCaffery, Iowa can "play" with his scholarship a bit, cause Dad can afford some of the hit. (clearly not like Fran can, but point still stands).
I also think people are naive if they think Iowa doesn't have other kids in this weight range on the radar. Nelson Brands will EARN his spot in Iowa's lineup, or he'll sit, just like everybody else.
I agree, I'm sure Iowa has other guys on the radar. I don't know if they're as good as Berge, but I also don't know if Berge can hold 149 for his whole career, and I don't think Berge is better than Kem or Marinelli. My point was simply that it's unfair to Nelson to paint him as a Berge replacement. He's just on that level thusfar. Obviously he has a great pedigree, but we can't just assume he'll get to that level.
Troy is obviously much lower on the recruiting charts than Berge. There's a head to head matchup video between these two out there and Berge decimates him.
Troy however is a talented kid. Had he not suffered the injury last year at Super 32, his season would've played out much differently. He wrestled Wick real tough and was closing the gap every time out. He took a loss to an unranked kid at states then had to wrestle back for 3rd. He will be favored to win a title this year and his stock will rise.
He's one of the few Iowa recruits that I've been able to see live and you certainly get a show when he steps on the mat. He wrestles a high pace and is exciting to watch. He makes silly mistakes and puts himself in bad spots at times, but a couple years in the room battling with Marinelli, Kemmerer and Sorensen can only get him better. I bet he cracks the top ten at his weight nationally by the end of the season.
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Love the first hand account and detailed analysis. I have not heard much about Troy either before or after he committed, so it's good to get some info. Thanks for passing along.
Fair enough. He IS getting better though. He's come a long way in a short amount of time it seems. I don't see the level of Iowa Fans inserting him in the lineup the way that you do however. Personal observation is all.
You have to admit there is a certain amount of intrigue involving Nelson Brands. He's the Son of a State of Iowa and Hawkeye Legend. He's not the cream of the crop recruit, much like his Father, who was really, really good but not necessarily great as a high schooler. There are a lot of parallels to their ascension I think (probably just me but...).
If he keeps going the way he's been going, with the progress he's made and the bloodlines he possesses, the sky's the limit for the kid, IMO. We'll see if he gets there in due time. In the meantime, keep getting the best kids to Iowa City any way you can. We don't have to worry about where Nelson Brands is going, work on other things.
A loss to an unranked kid at state doesn't exactly inspire me. But hey, most everyone loses at some point. Interesting first hand account below.
That Nelson Brands doesn't want to wrestle in college and won't go to Iowa.
Yeah, I've been trying but unfortunately I'm pretty much the only dude in so cal obsessed with wrestling, so info is hard to come by. Plenty of worthless basketball info though. I looked at their (MLKs) wrestling schedule to see if they travel near my house. They don't. It's about 45 miles from my house to Riverside. I may just pony up for a dual at MLK but we'll know if he signed by then.
Our man in Inglewood (although I'm guessing OC)...maybe you should pony up and go to a MLK practice in your Hawkeye gear. You are nearby knighted...HR Fan Reporter.
I get that a lot down here in Tucson when I try and explain how big a fan I am of wrestling:
I work near Inglewood. Used to live in Redondo ala Vincent Vega btw. I live about a mile and change from the OC. I'd feel a bit odd being a grown ass man and all showing up to a MLK practice. 
Mrs. So Cal: Hey where are you going?
Me: Riverside
Mrs So Cal: Riverside? What for?
Me: To watch a HS kid I've never met wrestle.
Mrs. So Cal: WTF?!
Me: Nah it's cool, Hawkeye Report needs me to see if this kids coming to Iowa next year.
Mrs So Cal: You work for Hawkeye Report?
Me: No, but Chief knighted me, so it's cool.
Mrs So Cal: You seriously need help
Mrs. So Cal: Hey where are you going?
Me: Riverside
Mrs So Cal: Riverside? What for?
Me: To watch a HS kid I've never met wrestle.
Mrs. So Cal: WTF?!
Me: Nah it's cool, Hawkeye Report needs me to see if this kids coming to Iowa next year.
Mrs So Cal: You work for Hawkeye Report?
Me: No, but Chief knighted me, so it's cool.
Mrs So Cal: You seriously need help
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