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]Some Christians Are Extremely Unhappy About Starbucks' New Holiday Cups
The absence of snowflakes on the cups "denies the hope of Jesus," one woman claims.
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Some people are angry about Starbucks’ new holiday cups. Really angry.

What is the issue, exactly?

In previous years, Starbucks’ iconic holiday cups, which the chain uses in lieu of white cups in November and December, featured wintry or Christmas-themed designs like snowflakes, ornaments and nature scenes. This year, the cups are more minimalist -- a red ombre design that Jeffrey Fields, Starbucks' vice president of design, said was meant to embrace “the simplicity and the quietness” of the holiday season.
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This is a huge problem for some people, who feel that the plain red cups are oppressing Christians by insulting Christmas.

“This is a denial of historical reality and the great Christian heritage behind the American Dream that has so benefitted Starbucks,” Andrea Williams of the U.K.-based organization Christian Concern told Breitbart. “This also denies the hope of Jesus Christ and His story so powerfully at this time of year.”
 
Looks like something the Russians would come up with to me. Or the Nazis...

Can someone Photoshop a swastika on that cup? TIA.
 
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I'm not much of a coffee drinker, but if some British Parliament member that I've never heard of before is angry then by golly I'm angry too.
 
Obviously, this is an over-reaction by some fundamentalist
Christians who do not speak for all Christians. Christmas is
not about coffee cups but about the Birth of Christ in Bethlehem's
manger.
 
Obviously, this is an over-reaction by some fundamentalist
Christians who do not speak for all Christians. Christmas is
not about coffee cups but about the Birth of Christ in Bethlehem's
manger.
I thought he came down from above and landed in that manger, and the three kings saw a bright light in the sky as proof?
 
So, instead of just keeping normal cups they switch to red cups to celebrate Christmas and these idiots complain. People like this are why people are leaving the church.

People arn't leaving church. It's people who never go to church anyways are ceasing to formally identify themselves with a church.

For a long time and it continues quite a bit to this day people would have this charade about being involved with a church even though they never went there and likely knew very little about it. Now it's becoming more acceptable for these people to simply say that they don't identify with a particular religion.

I'm ok with it actually. Sort of separating the wheat from the chaff so to speak. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people still do this though.
 
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Stupid Bill O'Reilly crap.

I remember when people said Happy Holidays and everyone was ok with it. Now Bill O'Reilly's has gullible people thinking that if you say Happy Holidays you have some sort of hate boner for Christmas.

Listen. . . NO RETAILER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HATES CHRISTMAS.
 
By Jonathan Merritt November 10 at 9:07 AM

The leaves have finished flashing their best hues and there is a nip in the air. Which can only mean one thing: It’s time for another viral “War on Christmas” story. This year, it isn’t the city of Boston’s “holiday tree” or Macy’s greeters refusing to say “Merry Christmas” that has inspired outcry; it’s Starbuck’s seasonal coffee cup.

“Starbucks REMOVED CHRISTMAS from their cups because they hate Jesus,” Joshua Feuerstein, declared on his Facebook page on Thursday. The post was shared nearly half a million times and incited many commenters to call for a holiday embargo of the coffee chain.

Because nothing says “Merry Christmas” like a boycott.

But contrary to a few breathless media reports, most Christians don’t actually care what kind of cup their latte is served in, so long as it is hot and comes with a creamy layer of froth on top. It seems an increasing number of believers have finally learned that coercive and heavy-handed tactics like boycotts are not effective ways to influence culture.

Shortly after the Feuerstein’s post went viral, several media outlets reported on the rage of this gaggle of Christian Facebook trolls. Many attempted to argue that the Starbucks cup had sparked sweeping anger among Christians, but the evidence was just not there.



Mic.com published a story on Monday purporting that the cup design caused a “boycott from Christian groups,” but the actual article cites exactly zero Christian groups calling for such a thing. The Los Angeles Times claimed evangelical Christians were “seeing red,” but only cited a couple of random Twitter critics. The New York Daily News claimed that “Christian evangelists” were angered by the cups, but they cited only a lone student pastor from a small church in Sarasota.

I’ve read dozens of stories on this from as many news outlets and I can’t find a single Christian organization or leader of import that is backing a boycott in any story. (Sure, the self-avowed Presbyterian and presidential hopeful Donald Trump suggested it might be a good idea, but even his own church won’t claim him.) Instead, many Christians responded to the backlash >with backlash, saying that a boycott was pointless and a bit ridiculous.

Why are most prominent Christian leaders and organizations steering clear of a Starbucks boycott?

For some — particularly younger people — it’s born out of a desire to set themselves apart from previous generations of culture warring Christians. During the 1990s and, when the religious right was at its peak, the Christian outrage industry was quite fond of boycotts.

In 1997, the Southern Baptist Convention voted to boycott Walt Disney Co. and its subsidiaries for its “anti-Christian and anti-family direction.” Focus on the Family called for a 2004 boycott of Proctor and Gamble’s two biggest selling products, Crest toothpaste and Tide laundry detergent.

Over the past couple of decades, the American Family Association became famous for boycotting “anti-Christian” television shows, such as “Saturday Night Live,” “Roseanne” and “NYPD Blue.” The AFA releases an annual “Naughty or Nice” list to help faithful shoppers determine which anti-Christmas retailers to boycott, and in 2005, they called for a boycott of theFord Motor Company.

But many Christians today want to be anything but like these leaders and groups.

In addition to that, many Christians have realized that boycotts just don’t work. The common characteristic uniting all of the brands listed above is that they are all still wildly successful. These organizations’ embargoes barely dented the businesses, making Christian groups look silly and powerless. Do you think Home Depot executives were worried by the AFA boycott of their retail chain in 2012? Do you think that General Mills was hurt when the National Organization of Marriage boycotted their family of products in the same year? And how much do you suppose the AFA boycotts of “Ellen” and “Desperate Housewives” hurt those shows ratings?

For every person who walks away from a company or brand under boycott, another embraces it for the same reasons.

Anyone who thinks that Feuerstein’s Facebook post is going to topple Starbucks has lost their holiday marbles, which is why even the coffee brand doesn’t seem to be taking the brouhaha that seriously. In fact, some joked that the controversy was Starbucks’ idea in the first place since it got so many Christians to defend the business.


On Sunday, Starbucks dismissed the controversy, claiming this year’s design is another way Starbucks is inviting customers to create their own stories with a red cup that mimics a blank canvas.” In the official statement, Jeffrey Fields, Starbucks Vice President of Design & Content, said, “In the past, we have told stories with our holiday cups designs. This year we wanted to usher in the holidays with a purity of design that welcomes all of our stories.”

This won’t be good enough for the small sliver of Christians who are actually angry about Starbucks (still fairly festive) design. There is, after all, a portion of religious Americans with an uncanny propensity to whip themselves into a full-on tizzy when—let’s be honest, folks—there is just nothing to get upset about. If you’re in this group, take a Christmas chill pill and wash it down with a pumpkin spice latte.

And then join the rest of us who celebrate the season in more effective ways: acts of kindness, declarations of joy and tangible embodiments of peace—not strife—on earth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-about-starbucks-cups-heres-what-we-do-know/
 
By Jonathan Merritt November 10 at 9:07 AM

The leaves have finished flashing their best hues and there is a nip in the air. Which can only mean one thing: It’s time for another viral “War on Christmas” story. This year, it isn’t the city of Boston’s “holiday tree” or Macy’s greeters refusing to say “Merry Christmas” that has inspired outcry; it’s Starbuck’s seasonal coffee cup.

“Starbucks REMOVED CHRISTMAS from their cups because they hate Jesus,” Joshua Feuerstein, declared on his Facebook page on Thursday. The post was shared nearly half a million times and incited many commenters to call for a holiday embargo of the coffee chain.

Because nothing says “Merry Christmas” like a boycott.

But contrary to a few breathless media reports, most Christians don’t actually care what kind of cup their latte is served in, so long as it is hot and comes with a creamy layer of froth on top. It seems an increasing number of believers have finally learned that coercive and heavy-handed tactics like boycotts are not effective ways to influence culture.

Shortly after the Feuerstein’s post went viral, several media outlets reported on the rage of this gaggle of Christian Facebook trolls. Many attempted to argue that the Starbucks cup had sparked sweeping anger among Christians, but the evidence was just not there.



Mic.com published a story on Monday purporting that the cup design caused a “boycott from Christian groups,” but the actual article cites exactly zero Christian groups calling for such a thing. The Los Angeles Times claimed evangelical Christians were “seeing red,” but only cited a couple of random Twitter critics. The New York Daily News claimed that “Christian evangelists” were angered by the cups, but they cited only a lone student pastor from a small church in Sarasota.

I’ve read dozens of stories on this from as many news outlets and I can’t find a single Christian organization or leader of import that is backing a boycott in any story. (Sure, the self-avowed Presbyterian and presidential hopeful Donald Trump suggested it might be a good idea, but even his own church won’t claim him.) Instead, many Christians responded to the backlash >with backlash, saying that a boycott was pointless and a bit ridiculous.

Why are most prominent Christian leaders and organizations steering clear of a Starbucks boycott?

For some — particularly younger people — it’s born out of a desire to set themselves apart from previous generations of culture warring Christians. During the 1990s and, when the religious right was at its peak, the Christian outrage industry was quite fond of boycotts.

In 1997, the Southern Baptist Convention voted to boycott Walt Disney Co. and its subsidiaries for its “anti-Christian and anti-family direction.” Focus on the Family called for a 2004 boycott of Proctor and Gamble’s two biggest selling products, Crest toothpaste and Tide laundry detergent.

Over the past couple of decades, the American Family Association became famous for boycotting “anti-Christian” television shows, such as “Saturday Night Live,” “Roseanne” and “NYPD Blue.” The AFA releases an annual “Naughty or Nice” list to help faithful shoppers determine which anti-Christmas retailers to boycott, and in 2005, they called for a boycott of theFord Motor Company.

But many Christians today want to be anything but like these leaders and groups.

In addition to that, many Christians have realized that boycotts just don’t work. The common characteristic uniting all of the brands listed above is that they are all still wildly successful. These organizations’ embargoes barely dented the businesses, making Christian groups look silly and powerless. Do you think Home Depot executives were worried by the AFA boycott of their retail chain in 2012? Do you think that General Mills was hurt when the National Organization of Marriage boycotted their family of products in the same year? And how much do you suppose the AFA boycotts of “Ellen” and “Desperate Housewives” hurt those shows ratings?

For every person who walks away from a company or brand under boycott, another embraces it for the same reasons.

Anyone who thinks that Feuerstein’s Facebook post is going to topple Starbucks has lost their holiday marbles, which is why even the coffee brand doesn’t seem to be taking the brouhaha that seriously. In fact, some joked that the controversy was Starbucks’ idea in the first place since it got so many Christians to defend the business.


On Sunday, Starbucks dismissed the controversy, claiming this year’s design is another way Starbucks is inviting customers to create their own stories with a red cup that mimics a blank canvas.” In the official statement, Jeffrey Fields, Starbucks Vice President of Design & Content, said, “In the past, we have told stories with our holiday cups designs. This year we wanted to usher in the holidays with a purity of design that welcomes all of our stories.”

This won’t be good enough for the small sliver of Christians who are actually angry about Starbucks (still fairly festive) design. There is, after all, a portion of religious Americans with an uncanny propensity to whip themselves into a full-on tizzy when—let’s be honest, folks—there is just nothing to get upset about. If you’re in this group, take a Christmas chill pill and wash it down with a pumpkin spice latte.

And then join the rest of us who celebrate the season in more effective ways: acts of kindness, declarations of joy and tangible embodiments of peace—not strife—on earth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-about-starbucks-cups-heres-what-we-do-know/

Honestly I don't know how popular any of this stuff ever was among Christians. Like there was never a mention in a sermon nor was anyone at church ever telling me that these companies where being boycotted.

You just named off a number of boycotts that where suppose to have happened but I don't remember any one of them or what they where about. To be fair the 1997 boycott happened before I was a Christian though.

It should be pointed out that most boycotts just don't seem to work period no matter if they come from the left or the right.
 
They stole my idea.

On another note, did you know very devout Christians long ago used to shun holiday festivities and merrymaking because they thought it distracted from the real meaning. One could make the argument ignoring Christmas is the most Christian thing one could do.
 
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They stole my idea.

On another note, did you know very devout Christians long ago used to shun holiday festivities and merrymaking because they thought it distracted from the real meaning. One could make the argument ignoring Christmas is the most Christian thing one could do.

It's irrelevant as to if you celebrate it or not. The question is more if you celebrate it, if you do it with the proper attitude.
 
Stupid Bill O'Reilly crap.

I remember when people said Happy Holidays and everyone was ok with it. Now Bill O'Reilly's has gullible people thinking that if you say Happy Holidays you have some sort of hate boner for Christmas.

Listen. . . NO RETAILER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HATES CHRISTMAS.

Good for you Hoosier. I've never got the complaints that people "no longer say Merry Christmas", and that it is somehow an attack on Christianity. They didn't start saying, shabbat shalom or allahu akbar, it is Happy Holidays, and it can be used to mean many things. You can say it around thanksgiving, chaunaka, kwanza, the solstice, christmas, new years, whatever.

It is just f****** easier.
 
Good for you Hoosier. I've never got the complaints that people "no longer say Merry Christmas", and that it is somehow an attack on Christianity. They didn't start saying, shabbat shalom or allahu akbar, it is Happy Holidays, and it can be used to mean many things. You can say it around thanksgiving, chaunaka, kwanza, the solstice, christmas, new years, whatever.

It is just f****** easier.
No thanks I will continue with Merry Christmas.
 
No thanks I will continue with Merry Christmas.
What in my post made you think otherwise?

Do what you please, why would I care?

But on that note, if you saw this guy:
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walk in to your store/office/hotdog stand/whatever, would you insist on saying Merry Christmas? If so, why?

Also, how far ahead do you do it? Today? Day after Thanksgiving? Dec 1? Dec 15? only December 24/25?
 
What in my post made you think otherwise?

Do what you please, why would I care?

But on that note, if you saw this guy:
chatRabbi.jpg
walk in to your store/office/hotdog stand/whatever, would you insist on saying Merry Christmas? If so, why?

Also, how far ahead do you do it? Today? Day after Thanksgiving? Dec 1? Dec 15? only December 24/25?
Your avatar says it all.
 
Good for you Hoosier. I've never got the complaints that people "no longer say Merry Christmas", and that it is somehow an attack on Christianity. They didn't start saying, shabbat shalom or allahu akbar, it is Happy Holidays, and it can be used to mean many things. You can say it around thanksgiving, chaunaka, kwanza, the solstice, christmas, new years, whatever.

It is just f****** easier.

Well for me the thing I don't get is they where saying Happy Holidays when I was a kid and no one thought that it ment that they hated Christmas. But Bill O'Reilly comes around and tells people that it means they hate Christmas.
 
Stupid Bill O'Reilly crap.

I remember when people said Happy Holidays and everyone was ok with it. Now Bill O'Reilly's has gullible people thinking that if you say Happy Holidays you have some sort of hate boner for Christmas.

Listen. . . NO RETAILER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HATES CHRISTMAS.
Whatevs, but if I was running Starbucks I would have told them to include cups of all varieties. Starbucks clearly has no idea how to market effectively.
 
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