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Woke Mind Virus - West Hollywood

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This sounds really dumb.
i only ever really encountered it in advanced grad school classes on planning/architecture

it basically boils down to "women often feel less safe or accommodated in public spaces...let's try to design those spaces to reduce that"

a city council or other political meeting is a wierd time and place to discuss it...and that mayor clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
 
i only ever really encountered it in advanced grad school classes on planning/architecture

it basically boils down to "women often feel less safe or accommodated in public spaces...let's try to design those spaces to reduce that"

a city council or other political meeting is a wierd time and place to discuss it...and that mayor clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
He also said "both genders" he should be removed from office immediately..
 
Silly monikers but there is nothing wrong with aiming for architecture that is inclusive and inviting to all types of people - which is what the (admirable) goal is.
Agreed, But they use racial and gender to describe the architectural design, and he couldn’t/wouldn’t answer the questions about how they are racial or gender architectural designs.
 
Agreed, But they use racial and gender to describe the architectural design, and he couldn’t/wouldn’t answer the questions about how they are racial or gender architectural designs.
Yeah, Mayor came across sounding unprepared and dumb. That's on him. If you are going to support something, you better know what the hell you're talking about.
 
Yeah, Mayor came across sounding unprepared and dumb. That's on him. If you are going to support something, you better know what the hell you're talking about.
i don't necessarily disagree...but we're talking about an elected official trying to describe an academic-y social science concept...that's always a recipe for disaster

and the whole point of that interview (and this post) isn't to better understand the thing being discussed or even discuss that thing's merits, it's to let him flounder through an explanation to make him and the topic in general look stupid

mission accomplished i guess

the mayor committed the grave sin of using the wrong words to describe an admirable concept (more inclusive/safer design of public spaces)
 
i don't necessarily disagree...but we're talking about an elected official trying to describe an academic-y social science concept...that's always a recipe for disaster

and the whole point of that interview (and this post) isn't to better understand the thing being discussed or even discuss that thing's merits, it's to let him flounder through an explanation to make him and the topic in general look stupid

mission accomplished i guess
Oh yeah, the biased interviewer clearly had an agenda and wasn't looking to be educated or to educate his viewers.

Just a lot of dumb in that video all the way around.
 
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Serious question.. What does this mean exactly?
In 2012, the Center for Inclusive Design and Environmental Access – which is located at the University of Buffalo – released eight goals of universal design. They are:

  • Comfort – Are demands (like reaching for a railing) within “desirable limits of body function and perception?”
  • Body fit – Does the design accommodate a range of body abilities and sizes?
  • Wellness – Does the design promote health and protect from germs and hazards?
  • Social integration – Are all groups treated with respect and dignity?
  • Understanding – For things that need to be operated, are their uses clear?
  • Personalization – Are there opportunities for personal choice and preferences?
  • Cultural appropriateness – Is the design respectful of cultural values?
  • Awareness – Is critical information (like signs) easy to see?

Examples of inclusive architecture

Every building that serves the public should be inclusive. Instead of providing a long list of every public building, let’s describe what inclusive design looks like for two specific buildings: hospitals/clinics and schools.

Hospitals and clinics

These buildings need to encourage a sense of well-being. Many people feel anxious when they go to the hospital or doctor, so architects must consider how to make the community feel more at ease. There’s also a wide range of people coming and going, so architects must consider body size, abilities, and more. Some important design features include wide paths and hallways, so it’s easy for everyone to move by walking or using a wheelchair, crutches, or other mobility equipment. Ramps are also important. Smaller slopes make it easier to push heavy gurneys or wheelchairs. Floors should be non-slip and shock-absorbent to reduce the chances of someone falling. In the bathroom, special consideration should be made to toilet seats, mirrors, and sinks.


Schools

Kids and teenagers spend a lot of their time in school. The school’s architecture needs to encourage learning and help everyone thrive. It should be easy to get around the building and locate classrooms and bathrooms. Like in hospitals, hallways should accommodate students who use wheelchairs or other mobility devices. For kids who are visual learners and have trouble focusing during a lecture, aids like electronic blackboards or TV screens are very useful. Charging stations in desks are also good for schools that use laptops. School bathrooms are a big talking point in design these days. According to research from GLSEN, an American education organization, ⅔ of trans students avoid school bathrooms because they feel uncomfortable and unsafe. All-gender bathrooms help alleviate this issue in schools and other public buildings.
 
Serious question.. What does this mean exactly?
its usually things like better accommodations for people other than able-bodied people walking by themselves

so, people who use mobilty devices (wheelchairs, walkers, even baby strollers) accessing or getting around the interior of buildings and other public spaces. it can even mean simple things like improved lighting or better sight lines (fewer obstructions) so a space feels safer
 
In 2012, the Center for Inclusive Design and Environmental Access – which is located at the University of Buffalo – released eight goals of universal design. They are:

  • Comfort – Are demands (like reaching for a railing) within “desirable limits of body function and perception?”
  • Body fit – Does the design accommodate a range of body abilities and sizes?
  • Wellness – Does the design promote health and protect from germs and hazards?
  • Social integration – Are all groups treated with respect and dignity?
  • Understanding – For things that need to be operated, are their uses clear?
  • Personalization – Are there opportunities for personal choice and preferences?
  • Cultural appropriateness – Is the design respectful of cultural values?
  • Awareness – Is critical information (like signs) easy to see?

Examples of inclusive architecture

Every building that serves the public should be inclusive. Instead of providing a long list of every public building, let’s describe what inclusive design looks like for two specific buildings: hospitals/clinics and schools.

Hospitals and clinics

These buildings need to encourage a sense of well-being. Many people feel anxious when they go to the hospital or doctor, so architects must consider how to make the community feel more at ease. There’s also a wide range of people coming and going, so architects must consider body size, abilities, and more. Some important design features include wide paths and hallways, so it’s easy for everyone to move by walking or using a wheelchair, crutches, or other mobility equipment. Ramps are also important. Smaller slopes make it easier to push heavy gurneys or wheelchairs. Floors should be non-slip and shock-absorbent to reduce the chances of someone falling. In the bathroom, special consideration should be made to toilet seats, mirrors, and sinks.


Schools

Kids and teenagers spend a lot of their time in school. The school’s architecture needs to encourage learning and help everyone thrive. It should be easy to get around the building and locate classrooms and bathrooms. Like in hospitals, hallways should accommodate students who use wheelchairs or other mobility devices. For kids who are visual learners and have trouble focusing during a lecture, aids like electronic blackboards or TV screens are very useful. Charging stations in desks are also good for schools that use laptops. School bathrooms are a big talking point in design these days. According to research from GLSEN, an American education organization, ⅔ of trans students avoid school bathrooms because they feel uncomfortable and unsafe. All-gender bathrooms help alleviate this issue in schools and other public buildings.
I think what @Carolina Hawk means is what does any of this ^^^ have to do with gender? All of the above clearly pertains to equality of access and the ADA covers just about all of those issues and are considered standards for the last 25+ years.

But what does gender have to do with architecture? Does that mean we tear down all brutalist 1960’s/70’s buildings (Mass State Police HQ, FBI HQ, as examples) because brutalist style offends women??? Does Gothic architecture offend non-Goths (haha)?? Does English Tudor architecture offend minorities because it is a symbol of British colonialism???? I have a feeling that is the nonsense path this is going down.
 
I think what @Carolina Hawk means is what does any of this ^^^ have to do with gender? All of the above clearly pertains to equality of access and the ADA covers just about all of those issues and are considered standards for the last 25+ years.

But what does gender have to do with architecture? Does that mean we tear down all brutalist 1960’s/70’s buildings (Mass State Police HQ, FBI HQ, as examples) because brutalist style offends women??? Does Gothic architecture offend non-Goths (haha)?? Does English Tudor architecture offend minorities because it is a symbol of British colonialism???? I have a feeling that is the nonsense path this is going down.
It isn't nonsense at all.

For centuries, all architectural design was done by and predominantly for men and male bodies.

Gender inclusive architecture strives to make sure that new construction and/or renovated and retrofitted architecture does not.

Some interesting examples here:

 
It isn't nonsense at all.

For centuries, all architectural design was done by and predominantly for men and male bodies.

Gender inclusive architecture strives to make sure that new construction and/or renovated and retrofitted architecture does not.

Some interesting examples here:

Do you have a specific example of some older buildigs that were done for male bodies? Are you talking about having more bathrooms for men?
 
It isn't nonsense at all.

For centuries, all architectural design was done by and predominantly for men and male bodies.

Gender inclusive architecture strives to make sure that new construction and/or renovated and retrofitted architecture does not.

Some interesting examples here:

Wait, is this more about women working in architecture fields or about making buildings more women friendly?

What specific architectural requirements do women need from a building? I can think bathrooms as the primary example and many laws regulating equal access is covered by the ADA already.

What specifically about architectural design needs to change (a current-state problem is implied)?
 
It isn't nonsense at all.

For centuries, all architectural design was done by and predominantly for men and male bodies.

Gender inclusive architecture strives to make sure that new construction and/or renovated and retrofitted architecture does not.

Some interesting examples here:


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