Worst. Revolution. Ever.

[torbee]

Amusing read here:

These people were dressed like cartoon characters, they believe that the country is under attack from pedophiles and “globalists,” and they are certain that Donald Trump won the election. In other words, the Founders’ worst fear—that a bunch of dumbasses would elect a tyrant—had come to pass.

Worst Revolution Ever

Attacking the U.S. Capitol is not an act of patriotism. Obviously.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[z_ape]

Amusing read here:

Worst Revolution Ever

Attacking the U.S. Capitol is not an act of patriotism. Obviously.

www.theatlantic.com

Caitlin has good stuff

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

These people aren't so stupid (unfortunately, is what some of you will say) that they're willing to give up their lives for Donald Trump.

Talk of Civil War and Revolution ends pretty quick when that overconfidence that nothing will happen to you while you protest goes out the window.............

 

[torbee]

These people aren't so stupid (unfortunately, is what some of you will say) that they're willing to give up their lives for Donald Trump.

Talk of Civil War and Revolution ends pretty quick when that overconfidence that nothing will happen to you while you protest goes out the window.............

That was what I was saying watching it. It wasn’t a real revolution - it was mostly dorks cosplaying one - but with a few really, really bad actors capable of much damage.

 

[LuteHawk]

President George Washington is his farewell address after
8 years in office spoke of the importance of morally
upright citizens. He said that democracy would not work
if the nation failed to have a good value system.

 

[Rudolph]

President George Washington is his farewell address after
8 years in office spoke of the importance of morally
upright citizens. He said that democracy would not work
if the nation failed to have a good value system.

And it’s failing. Greed, selfishness, insularity, fear of other.

 

[Rifler]

That was what I was saying watching it. It wasn’t a real revolution - it was mostly dorks cosplaying one - but with a few really, really bad actors capable of much damage.

Honest statement,.. Which makes the presence of 25,000 national guard troops in DC look like serious overkill...

 

[BubsFinn]

I would hardly call what happened in DC an attempted revolution. It was at best a bunch of morons attempting a protest that got out of control.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I would hardly call what happened in DC an attempted revolution. It was at best a bunch of morons attempting a protest that got out of control.

I would say that's what it was for most of them. But a lot of them where actively looking for members of congress.

Listen if your read about the Beer hall Punch, it's a similarly disorganized mob of idiots with a poorly thought out plan for a coup. But it was still a coup.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Honest statement,.. Which makes the presence of 25,000 national guard troops in DC look like serious overkill...

Right wing forums are teaming with threats of violence at the inauguration. A major show of force is important to discourage this.

 

[Moral]

 

[Rifler]

Right wing forums are teaming with threats of violence at the inauguration. A major show of force is important to discourage this.

whatever...

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

That was what I was saying watching it. It wasn’t a real revolution - it was mostly dorks cosplaying one - but with a few really, really bad actors capable of much damage.

It was basically a clown show with a few Pennywise clowns mixed in

 

[ConvenientParking]

whatever...

I know you want to believe all gun loving conservatives are sane responsible people. I'm starting to get to "the lady doth protest too much" when it comes to how responsible and law abiding most 2A nuts are.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

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How many are shocked Elizabeth is from Knoxville, Tennessee?

 

[torbee]

Honest statement,.. Which makes the presence of 25,000 national guard troops in DC look like serious overkill...

How many terrorists did it take to sow the death, destruction and horror of September 11? A dozen?

Timothy McVeigh was one man. The Boston Marathon bombers were two brothers.

Even if 99 percent of the rioters and insurrectionists are harmless, that leaves a couple hundred capable of much horror. Not overkill. At all.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

whatever...

Are you denying this is true?

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Are you denying this is true?

I mean most of them are probably just trying to look like an internet tough guy but we shouldn't bet the lives of our elected officials that none of them are serious.

Seeing thousands of troops standing against you would help people to re-think their intentions.

 

[Tenacious E]

Honest statement,.. Which makes the presence of 25,000 national guard troops in DC look like serious overkill...

All it takes is one gun nut with a high powered rifle and a scope.

 

[Rifler]

I know you want to believe all gun loving conservatives are sane responsible people.

Not all, the term "all" doesn't apply to any group,.. However, most gun owning conservatives are sane responsible people...

 

[Rifler]

All it takes is one gun nut with a high powered rifle and a scope.

This has always been true,.. nothing new about this reality.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Not all, the term "all" doesn't apply to any group,.. However, most gun owning conservatives are sane responsible people...

Agree. There's IDK how many 10s of millions or more of those and then 0.1% of that is enough people to do real damage. And that 0.1% believes they're starting a civil war

 

[Tenacious E]

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That is f&cking BRILLIANT!

 

[Tenacious E]

This has always been true,.. nothing new about this reality.

That is not new, but the number of emboldened gun nuts who also happen to be nuts/brainwashed is.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

This has always been true,.. nothing new about this reality.

Lets just say the right wing gun nuts are more riled up than ever. They are hooked on believing more conspiracies than ever.

No other electoral vote count got delayed because a crowd stormed in trying to hang members of our government.

Shoot no other electoral vote count at least in modern history has had this much support for throwing out electoral votes.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

This has always been true,.. nothing new about this reality.

The new part is that Trump and his media sympathizers have conditioned these willing idiots into believing the dems stole the election. Some of these people truly, deeply believe that they are patriots because they fell for the lies about the election.

This makes them very dangerous willing idiots.

 

[Rifler]

Agree. There's IDK how many 10s of millions or more of those and then 0.1% of that is enough people to do real damage. And that 0.1% believes they're starting a civil war

Doubtful,.. Far more likely they fancy themselves as participants in an 80's Stallone movie,.. These people are the far right's take on Star Wars nerds,.. Mis-guided/certainly,.. Dangerous/maybe,.. Threat to Democracy/not even close....

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Doubtful,.. Far more likely they fancy themselves as participants in an 80's Stallone movie,.. These people are the far right's take on Star Wars nerds,.. Mis-guided/certainly,.. Dangerous/maybe,.. Threat to Democracy/not even close....

When said person can put the sights of his gun on the majority of our top elected officials all at one time in a venue such as a presidential inauguration they are a threat to democracy.

After what happened at the capitol with such low security they had there . . . by design I think it's a situation where you can't have too much security.

 

[markfromj]

OP is exactly right.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Doubtful,.. Far more likely they fancy themselves as participants in an 80's Stallone movie,.. These people are the far right's take on Star Wars nerds,.. Mis-guided/certainly,.. Dangerous/maybe,.. Threat to Democracy/not even close....

You are saying it is doubtful that among Trump’s tens of millions of loyal followers that even a few would be willing to lay their life on the line in what they believe is their patriotic duty?

While it is doubtful most people would do this, it is a virtual certainty there are at least a few people willing and able. This risk necessitates an aggressive posture for the near future.

Or we could take your path and just roll the dice and see. It would be an astoundingly dumb risk to take, but then again it’s just lives and democracy at stake right?

 

[Tenacious E]

Doubtful,.. Far more likely they fancy themselves as participants in an 80's Stallone movie,.. These people are the far right's take on Star Wars nerds,.. Mis-guided/certainly,.. Dangerous/maybe,.. Threat to Democracy/not even close....

There were men in body armor and/or masks in the Senate chamber with zip ties looking for Pelosi and Pence. GTFO with that garbage.

 

[MepoDawg#]

You are saying it is doubtful that among Trump’s tens of millions of loyal followers that even a few would be willing to lay their life on the line in what they believe is their patriotic duty?

While it is doubtful most people would do this, it is a virtual certainty there are at least a few people willing and able. This risk necessitates an aggressive posture for the near future.

Or we could take your path and just roll the dice and see. It would be an astoundingly dumb risk to take, but then again it’s just lives and democracy at stake right?

Of course there are crazies out there capable and willing. There are some on all sides, but some people don’t want to hear that. They are outnumbered significantly by good people even though the good people on either side may believe some of the conspiracy theories. Once Trump is gone it’ll go back to normal, hopefully getting better than normal. If they are planning anything they’re failing miserably right now. The good people won’t stand for it and will knock them down.

 

[torbee]

Of course there are crazies out there capable and willing. There are some on all sides, but some people don’t want to hear that. They are outnumbered significantly by good people even though the good people on either side may believe some of the conspiracy theories. Once Trump is gone it’ll go back to normal, hopefully getting better than normal. If they are planning anything they’re failing miserably right now. The good people won’t stand for it and will knock them down.

So it makes sense to ramp up the security level and be on a prepared footing until the catalyst - Trump - is gone.

We agree! 🙂

 

[Tenacious E]

Of course there are crazies out there capable and willing. There are some on all sides, but some people don’t want to hear that. They are outnumbered significantly by good people even though the good people on either side may believe some of the conspiracy theories. Once Trump is gone it’ll go back to normal, hopefully getting better than normal. If they are planning anything they’re failing miserably right now. The good people won’t stand for it and will knock them down.

The difference, as I see it, is the crazies during the summer threw rocks and spray painted. The crazies we're worried about at the moment have already stormed the Capitol with zip ties and pipe bombs, and they love them some AR-15s.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Of course there are crazies out there capable and willing. There are some on all sides, but some people don’t want to hear that. They are outnumbered significantly by good people even though the good people on either side may believe some of the conspiracy theories. Once Trump is gone it’ll go back to normal, hopefully getting better than normal. If they are planning anything they’re failing miserably right now. The good people won’t stand for it and will knock them down.

Of course many conservatives are decent and of course some dems are violent crazies. That is not the issue.

The fact is that the crazy wing of the Republican base is armed, riled up, out for blood and some of them are capable of horrific acts. This necessitates security protocols that would seem unimaginable a year ago.

This is what Trump has wrought.

 

[Rifler]

There were men in body armor and/or masks in the Senate chamber with zip ties looking for Pelosi and Pence. GTFO with that garbage.

Like I said,.. nerds in costumes from central casting pretending to be tough guys...

 

[beanerhawk]

That article is hilarious. She's funny.

 

[Tenacious E]

Of course many conservatives are decent and of course some dems are violent crazies. That is not the issue.

The fact is that the crazy wing of the Republican base is armed, riled up, out for blood and some of them are capable of horrific acts. This necessitates security protocols that would seem unimaginable a year ago.

This is what Trump has wrought.

You are right but even more than that, they are radicalized/brainwashed. I mean for real. They are legitimately brainwashed. They think they are fighting for justice and good to defeat a made-up pedophile ring conveniently made up of "vote stealing" democrats, who they see as "commies" who they see as a threat to becoming their "overlords." I am not making this up. This is from a facebook feed of someone I know.

 

[Rifler]

Once Trump is gone it’ll go back to normal, hopefully getting better than normal.

No it won't, it will just go underground,.. The display in DC is overkill and "normal" isn't returning soon,.. Both statements are true.

 

[Tenacious E]

Like I said,.. nerds in costumes from central casting pretending to be tough guys...

Tell that to these guys: