Wow. 20 extended families use MOST of the Colorado river water in the CA Imperial Valley....

[Joes Place]

...and almost ALL of that water goes to irrigation for hay, not for produce to feed America.

If we switch over to lab-created meats, that market goes to shit...

The 20 Farming Families Who Use More Water From the Colorado River Than Some Western States

Tens of millions of people — and millions of acres of farmland — rely on the Colorado River’s water. But as its supply shrinks, these farmers get more water from the river than entire states.

projects.propublica.org

ONE SINGLE extended family uses more than the Las Vegas metro area uses
For -- you guess it --- growing hay.

 

[Colonoscopy]

...and almost ALL of that water goes to irrigation for hay, not for produce to feed America.

If we switch over to lab-created meats, that market goes to shit...

The 20 Farming Families Who Use More Water From the Colorado River Than Some Western States

Tens of millions of people — and millions of acres of farmland — rely on the Colorado River’s water. But as its supply shrinks, these farmers get more water from the river than entire states.

projects.propublica.org

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ONE SINGLE extended family uses more than the Las Vegas metro area uses
For -- you guess it --- growing hay.

Farms use the most water? No way.

And people eat the stuff that eats hay.

Shitty post.

 

[jawatkins]

You sure they aren’t just eating too many pretzels?

 

[Joes Place]

Farms use the most water? No way.

And people eat the stuff that eats hay.

Shitty post.

Actually, lots of it gets shipped out of the US.
Read the article.

 

[mnole03]

Congress must be getting involved. I’ve started to see ads in Colorado about how much carbon is trapped by almond trees.

 

[jawatkins]

Congress must be getting involved. I’ve started to see ads in Colorado about how much carbon is trapped by almond trees.

We should really rethink this whole growing almonds and rice in natural deserts thing we’ve been doing.

 

[mnole03]

We should really rethink this whole growing almonds and rice in natural deserts thing we’ve been doing.

They trap the carbon from two million cars. What other trees trap carbon? None that I’m aware of from tv ads.

 

[jawatkins]

They trap the carbon from two million cars. What other trees trap carbon? None that I’m aware of from tv ads.

Don’t ask me ask bill nye

 

[Joes Place]

We should really rethink this whole growing almonds and rice in natural deserts thing we’ve been doing.

Again: most of it is "hay".

 

[jawatkins]

Again: most of it is "hay".

Yeah but pretty much all desert based agriculture is maybe not the greatest idea.

 

[JimStarr777]

Farms use the most water? No way.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

We should really rethink this whole growing almonds and rice in natural deserts thing we’ve been doing.

And weed.

 

[BelemNole]

And when you drive thru the area there are countless signs saying "Family Farms Feed America!!"

 

[BelemNole]

And weed.

Nearly all the weed in CA is grown indoors. Not dumping water into open ditch irrigation to grow rice.

 

[jawatkins]

And weed.

Yeah get rid of the weeds!!! I hate dandelions. I think most of the marijuana is grown up north but I’m not a farmer.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

...and almost ALL of that water goes to irrigation for hay, not for produce to feed America.

If we switch over to lab-created meats, that market goes to shit...

The 20 Farming Families Who Use More Water From the Colorado River Than Some Western States

Tens of millions of people — and millions of acres of farmland — rely on the Colorado River’s water. But as its supply shrinks, these farmers get more water from the river than entire states.

projects.propublica.org

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ONE SINGLE extended family uses more than the Las Vegas metro area uses
For -- you guess it --- growing hay.

You started off hot identifying the problem. But your conclusion to switch to dog meats is dog shit.

Just need to throw money at lawyers to do the dirty work to turn off grandfathered rights like AZ did recently. But, each time it will be appealed and drug through the courts so they need to be prepared for a long, drawn out fight.

Arizona Cancels Land Leases For Saudi Alfalfa Farms Amid Water Crisis

Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs this week announced the State Land Department canceled land leases that allow a Saudi-owned farm to pump unchecked amounts of groundwater from the desert state. One lease held by Fondomonte Arizona in western Arizona’s Butler Valley was canceled Monday, and three others...

localnewsx.com

 

[JimStarr777]

And weed.

Not that many steps from weed to Fentanyl.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Not

Nearly all the weed in CA is grown indoors. Not dumping water into open ditch irrigation to grow rice.

Not the illegal stuff apparently.

Illegal Cannabis Is Making California’s Water Problems Worse

We’ve reported on how California’s illicit pot market has hurt the heavily taxed and regulated legal market. Expanding on that, agriculture reporter Kim Chipman this week follows up on her earlier reporting about water theft in California (see here) to look at how the industry is contributing to...

www.bloomberg.com

 

[BelemNole]

Not

Not the illegal stuff apparently.

Illegal Cannabis Is Making California’s Water Problems Worse

We’ve reported on how California’s illicit pot market has hurt the heavily taxed and regulated legal market. Expanding on that, agriculture reporter Kim Chipman this week follows up on her earlier reporting about water theft in California (see here) to look at how the industry is contributing to...

www.bloomberg.com

Well....that's illegal.

 

[Joes Place]

You started off hot identifying the problem. But your conclusion to switch to dog meats is dog shit.

Huh?

 

[Joes Place]

Just need to throw money at lawyers to do the dirty work to turn off grandfathered rights

No; they just need to charge higher prices for the water those farms are using.

And prevent farmers from growing low-cost stuff and exporting it (like the Saudis). Farms still need some water priority for us to eat; they do not need that much priority for hay.

 

[Hawk_82]

If only we had more CO2 in the atmosphere, this decreases water consumption and increases growth.

 

[auntie_fah]

future wars will be fought over water

 

[jawatkins]

future wars will be fought over op’s mom

Truth

 

[flyfishstout_CO]

I think one poster referenced this but a lot of this hay is exported to Middle eastern countries to support their livestock because they can't grow the crops there. Crazy world!

 

[jawatkins]

I think one poster referenced this but a lot of this hay is exported to Middle eastern countries to support their livestock because they can't grow the crops there. Crazy world!

It’s deserts all the way down.

Most camels are from Australia. Some countries embrace the desert.

 

[Joes Place]

If only we had more CO2 in the atmosphere, this decreases water consumption

No. With higher temps, plants will lose more water.

 

[jawatkins]

No. With higher temps, plants will lose more water.

Have we tried just giving them Gatorade since they out working in the sun. Gatorade has what plants crave.

 

[Joes Place]

Have we tried just giving them Gatorade since they out working in the sun. Gatorade has what plants crave.

Ur confusing "Gatorade" with "Brawndo", yo....

It's got Electrolytes.

 

[jawatkins]

Ur confusing "Gatorade" with "Brawndo", yo....

It's got Electrolytes.

Oh.

Welcome to Hort, I love you.

 

[Hawk_82]

No. With higher temps, plants will lose more water.

CO2 fertilization effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[fsu1jreed]

CO2 fertilization effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Holy fvck is someone bringing up Greening the Earth again? You do know that's only till nutrient and water availability becomes limiting factors

 

[LuciousBDragon]

No; they just need to charge higher prices for the water those farms are using.

And prevent farmers from growing low-cost stuff and exporting it (like the Saudis). Farms still need some water priority for us to eat; they do not need that much priority for hay.

They can’t. The big users have grandfathered water rights (some 100+ years old). So not only do the draw the most, they are paying pennies on the dollar for it.

The only way this gets solved is with some creative, patient, and well funded and well lubricated legal teams who can fight those old contracts and survive appeals.

 

[Joes Place]

Holy fvck is someone bringing up Greening the Earth again? You do know that's only till nutrient and water availability becomes limiting factors

Yeah, he's simply too stupid to understand this.
The rising temps will burn off the water and make crops suffer.

 

[Joes Place]

They can’t.

They absolutely CAN raise the water rates charged to those landowners.
Along with everyone else. But higher rates will make hay farming much less profitable.

 

[Joes Place]

CO2 fertilization effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This link says nothing about the negative impacts plants will face due to higher temperatures.

 

[Hawk_82]

This link says nothing about the negative impacts plants will face due to higher temperatures.

I thought you would like that

 

[Bank of Hawk]

Hell yea brother

 

[swagsurfer02]

Not sure how many of you have been to the Imperial Valley, it’s one of the most poor places in the country. The good thing is that they can grow crops year round, and yes there is a ton of hay but it is going to feed livestock.

 

[Joes Place]

Not sure how many of you have been to the Imperial Valley, it’s one of the most poor places in the country.

Except for that handful of families that use all the water.
They ain't poor by any stretch. And it's doubtful they "reinvest" much in their communities....