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Yellowstone National Park announced Thursday it changed the name of Mount Doane to First People’s Mountain as part of a larger effort to remove offensive place names in national parks.

The announcement follows a unanimous vote by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names to rename the 10,551-foot peak originally honoring the explorer and massacre leader Gustavus Doane.

A statement from the National Park Service said the name change resulted from research showing Doane led the 1870 Marias Massacre where at least 173 American Indians, including children and the elderly, were killed. The attack was carried out in response to the alleged murder of a white fur trader.

“Doane wrote fondly about this attack and bragged about it for the rest of his life,” the park service statement read.

Yellowstone said it reached out to all 27 tribes associated with the park and received no opposition to the name change.

U.S. Interior Secretary Deb Haaland announced in November the agency would create a process to review and replace derogatory place names on federal lands.

“Racist terms have no place in our vernacular or on our federal lands. Our nation’s lands and waters should be places to celebrate the outdoors and our shared cultural heritage — not to perpetuate the legacies of oppression,” Haaland said at the time.

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A team of researchers created a tool earlier this year to identify and change place names in national parks that are deemed harmful or rooted in white supremacy. They analyzed 2,241 place names in 16 national parks across the U.S. and developed “decision trees” which enable them to group together place names with similar origins. The categories included language origin; derogatory; erasure; and dimensions of racism and colonialism.

The team found 214 names that were appropriated without an Indigenous community’s consent, 254 names that memorialize colonialism and 21 names that commemorate historical figures with ties to racist ideas. The study said each of the 16 parks contained at least one place name for figures who supported racist ideologies or profited from Indigenous colonization or genocide.

“There’s a process by which those names are chosen,” said study co-author and Oregon State University associate professor Natchee Barnd. “And if we’re operating within a system that has been grounded in white supremacy, it’s probably going to reflect that — some really explicitly and vehemently, and some by default or accidentally, such as the fact that a name is in English.”


Wait, WHAT???

Simply having an English name is offensive by default???
 
Good thing the adults in the room changed Barney Ford Hill before Trad was placed in charge.



Same with Buffalo Soldier Hill.
 
The anti-white-washing of history.

If they're going to rename every place name that is named after someone who won a battle, then the mapmakers are going to have a lot of work to do.
There was no war, no rape, and people didn't know what male or female were before white colonialism.

White supremacy heap big problem.
 
There was no war, no rape, and people didn't know what male or female were before white colonialism.

White supremacy heap big problem.
Oh I see. So The Great Spirit didn't realize if you had a dick you were a male? Interesting,

That must have been where the peyote came into play..................
 
So really, any name in English should be changed because ... it's in English. Smacks of colonialism.

And anything named after a NA, or NA culture needs renaming cuz of cultural appropriation.

Stop the world, I wanna step off.
 
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This change seems legit to me.
I’m okay with it. But it’s just a start. Sherman was brutal after the Civil War to the First People and we need to take his name off that tank.
I’m not really kidding either.
 
Yellowstone National Park announced Thursday it changed the name of Mount Doane to First People’s Mountain as part of a larger effort to remove offensive place names in national parks.

The announcement follows a unanimous vote by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names to rename the 10,551-foot peak originally honoring the explorer and massacre leader Gustavus Doane.

A statement from the National Park Service said the name change resulted from research showing Doane led the 1870 Marias Massacre where at least 173 American Indians, including children and the elderly, were killed. The attack was carried out in response to the alleged murder of a white fur trader.

“Doane wrote fondly about this attack and bragged about it for the rest of his life,” the park service statement read.

Yellowstone said it reached out to all 27 tribes associated with the park and received no opposition to the name change.

U.S. Interior Secretary Deb Haaland announced in November the agency would create a process to review and replace derogatory place names on federal lands.

“Racist terms have no place in our vernacular or on our federal lands. Our nation’s lands and waters should be places to celebrate the outdoors and our shared cultural heritage — not to perpetuate the legacies of oppression,” Haaland said at the time.

America is changing faster than ever! Add Changing America to your Facebook or Twitter feed to stay on top of the news.

A team of researchers created a tool earlier this year to identify and change place names in national parks that are deemed harmful or rooted in white supremacy. They analyzed 2,241 place names in 16 national parks across the U.S. and developed “decision trees” which enable them to group together place names with similar origins. The categories included language origin; derogatory; erasure; and dimensions of racism and colonialism.

The team found 214 names that were appropriated without an Indigenous community’s consent, 254 names that memorialize colonialism and 21 names that commemorate historical figures with ties to racist ideas. The study said each of the 16 parks contained at least one place name for figures who supported racist ideologies or profited from Indigenous colonization or genocide.

“There’s a process by which those names are chosen,” said study co-author and Oregon State University associate professor Natchee Barnd. “And if we’re operating within a system that has been grounded in white supremacy, it’s probably going to reflect that — some really explicitly and vehemently, and some by default or accidentally, such as the fact that a name is in English.”


Wait, WHAT???

Simply having an English name is offensive by default???
Most places already had a name before being renamed by conquerors. It would be cool to see traditional names reapplied when possible.
 
I’m okay with it. But it’s just a start. Sherman was brutal after the Civil War to the First People and we need to take his name off that tank.
I’m not really kidding either.
I hope people realize that SANE PEOPLE don't spend their days analyzing the name of EVERYTHING in the United States and wondering if somebody somewhere is going to be "offended" by it. JFC

Why the Black Hills, why not the White Hills? Who the hell is responsible for that! Guess what. I don't care.

Ron White is 100% correct.
 
I hope people realize that SANE PEOPLE don't spend their days analyzing the name of EVERYTHING in the United States and wondering if somebody somewhere is going to be "offended" by it. JFC

Why the Black Hills, why not the White Hills? Who the hell is responsible for that! Guess what. I don't care.

Ron White is 100% correct.
The name "Black Hills" comes from the Lakota words Paha Sapa, which mean "hills that are black." Seen from a distance, these pine-covered hills, rising several thousand feet above the surrounding prairie, appear black.


Use traditional names, so add Paha Sapa to the signs.
 
You don’t think the tribes had names for the landmarks and places where they lived? You are drifting back into your comfort spot. Victimhood.gif

Yeah. Different tribes had different languages. I doubt they all had the same name for the same mountain.

The story says there were 27 different tribes associated with the park.
 
The name "Black Hills" comes from the Lakota words Paha Sapa, which mean "hills that are black." Seen from a distance, these pine-covered hills, rising several thousand feet above the surrounding prairie, appear black.


Use traditional names, so add Paha Sapa to the signs.
The Sioux took the black hills from the Kiowa by force of arms, so If we rename the black hills we should use the Kiowa name.
 
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Yeah. Different tribes had different languages. I doubt they all had the same name for the same mountain.

The story says there were 27 different tribes associated with the park.
Understood. I still would suggest that most places had a common name which may have been used in different languages.

Think about how different you would think about geography in Florida without so many tribal names associated with rivers and such. There likely was not a single tribe naming things, but rather multiples.
It does make me wonder how the names were passed down, although, granted they are mostly anglo phonetic derivatives.
This is one reason that I enjoy poring over old maps and seeing how names have evolved.
 
The Sioux took the black hills from the Kiowa by force of arms, so If we rename the black hills we should use the Kiowa name.
OK. You have a point, but the name may not have changed, only the language. What did the Kiowa call the area?
Did the Kiowa take the hills from someone else?
 
OK. You have a point, but the name may not have changed, only the language. What did the Kiowa call the area?
Did the Kiowa take the hills from someone else?
You are missing the sarcasm. Yes the Kiowa may have taken it from a weaker tribe.

This is the story of humanity. The weaker have their land taken by the stronger. What makes the Siouxs claim stronger than the Kiowas? It isn't. Yes. The U S A took it from the Sioux. Which is no different than the Sioux taking it from the Kiowa.

If you have ever been to the cliff dwellings of the Mesa Verde the cliff dwellers were driven out by th Utes.

It is happening in Ukraine as we speak.
 
I think it’s hilarious how freaking worked up you all get over this stuff. Is this what owning the libs feels like?

Maybe just move to a safe space for your feelings… Florida maybe?
 
I think it’s hilarious how freaking worked up you all get over this stuff. Is this what owning the libs feels like?

Maybe just move to a safe space for your feelings… Florida maybe?

Do you agree with study co-author and Oregon State University associate professor Natchee Barnd that any place name in English is offensive by default?
 
Do you agree with study co-author and Oregon State University associate professor Natchee Barnd that any place name in English is offensive by default?

Of course not, but I disagree with people about all sorts of stuff. Life must be pretty freaking great to get all worked up over the name of a pile of dirt in Wyoming. I personally don’t have room for that outrage
 
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The anti-white-washing of history.

If they're going to rename every place name that is named after a mass murderer who massacred hundreds of rather defenseless Native Americans in the name of white domination, then the mapmakers are going to have some important, long overdue work to do.
FIFY
You're welcome.
 
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The anti-white-washing of history.

If they're going to rename every place name that is named after someone who won a battle, then the mapmakers are going to have a lot of work to do.

Less stupid than whitewashing history by calling a massacre a battle.

I’m fine calling things what there really are... I thought you would be, too, based upon your posting history.
 
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In early August 1870, Henry D. Washburn in preparing for his Yellowstone exploration formally requested General Winfield Scott Hancock, Commander, Department of Dakota, provide a military escort from Fort Ellis. The request was granted on August 14, 1870, and Doane with five other soldiers were selected to provide the escort. As the leader of the U.S. Army escort of the Washburn-Langford-Doane Expedition into Yellowstone in August–September 1870, Lt. Gustavus C. Doane became a significant contributor to the process that ultimately resulted in the creation of Yellowstone National Park on March 1, 1872. Although he was skillful and resourceful throughout the expedition, it was his thorough and detailed report to the Secretary of War in February 1871 of the natural phenomena in Yellowstone that played a convincing role in the efforts to convince the U.S. Congress to create the National Park. The following excerpt is typical of Doane's detailed descriptions contained in his report:

Along both banks of the Firehole River are the greatest of the geysers. Our camp was a few hundred yards below the first crater described, and the most beautiful of them all. Near the bank of the river, and a half a mile below camp, rose on the farther margin of a marshy lake the Castle Crater, the largest formation in the valley. The calcareous knoll on which it stands is 40 feet in height, and covers several acres. The crater is built up from its center, with irregular walls of spherical nodules, in forms of wondrous beauty, to a castellated turret, 40 feet in height and 200 feet in circumference at the base. The outer rim, at its summit, is formed in embrasures between large nodules of rock, of the tint of ashes of roses, and in the center is a crater three feet in diameter, bordered and lined with a frost-work of saffron. From a distance it strongly resembles an old feudal tower partially in ruins. This great crater is continually pouring forth steam, the condensation of which keeps the outside walls constantly wet and dripping.
— Gustavus C. Doane, 1871[8]
General Washburn named a mountain peak in the Absaroka Range for Lt. Doane that later became known as Colter Peak. In 1871, however, Hayden named another peak nearby Mount Doane in his honor.
 
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