Young is well regarded and Marinelli went up a weight and beat him. I don't get your post at all.
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Young is well regarded and Marinelli went up a weight and beat him. I don't get your post at all.
Plus, they wrestle all the time in practice
It wasn't as much about Marinelli as a positive for Young. I really like Young and think he's going to have a great career
I believe AM is a little undersized for 165 and Young may not be top 10 but he was a very good recruit. Some guys are able to gain more in a college room as well. AM was also set back with injury early this year. I think in the end we will have 2 very good wrestles with multiple AAs.
Don't you think it is time to get a different username. Joe Pa was a child predator enabler.
Marinelli is a 157 pounder wrestling 165 while Young is a full size 165. Not a difficult concept to grasp for most.
Plus with guys like Nothrup, Shaw and Perez, I am sure they get beat on pretty good everyday in practice. So get to something like this to keep their confidence up.
Like I said in my post I think it is fine, but some of them could have wrestled up a class. It makes me chuckle that you think pinning or teching everyone through the entire tournament has value.
I'm sure he will have every opportunity to keep his spot going into next season, but I just don't think he has the firepower to keep up with AM/Young. That said, he will be an asset to the team in whichever role he's needed and provide good depth
I agree that he will be a future AA level wrestler but we need the best possible guy on the mat. If that's not him, so be it.
This is what the new paradigm will start to look like under TnT + M*'s new recruiting philosophy IMO. It's starting to match that of PSU. Just look at the quality guys they've got on the bench. Rasheed/Morelli both 174 on the bench, Manville will be on the bench for a few years at least, Cassar at 197 or McCutcheon could be on the bench if Cassar beats him out next year, Moss at 141 will be on the bench next year too in favor of Nick Lee it sounds like.
Gunther has improved and been coached up to a top 20 guy as a FR, and he wasn't even ranked in the top 150 of his recruiting class according to D1CW. We may see some good guys on the bench in the future, either Happel or Murin will be on the bench at 141. Sasso could put Turk on the bench at 149. Marinelli and Young could bench Gunther. Lee and Teasdale will bench Wagner/Rathbun/Stickley. Warner will bench Bowman. It's just the way things go when you want to win team titles. All guys will be huge assets to the program, making the room that much tougher, sharpening guys up and down the lineup, and providing good depth in case, god forbid, there is an injury or a guy needs some rest.
The solid guys - non top 20 recruits that TnT would always coach up before seem to be the minority in future lineups. Guys who would usually be coached to 1-2xAA and multiple NCAA appearances, are starting to be replaced with Top 10 and top 20 p4p studs who will be 3-4x AA each and win individual championships.
Marinelli is a 157 at best right now. Very undersized for 165.
Just combing through results here looking for Marinelli wrestling 57.
Young makes 65 with little trouble.
Great post. I bolded the part that's most important. All of these guys are assets to the program, whether or not they're in the starting lineup, and they're often one injury from being the starter. That kind of depth is what wins national championships (along with some serious studs who score points in bunches and win national titles, of course).
Did anybody see the marinelli/young match? How did it go besides the score? How do marinelli and kem go?
And Marinelli could make 157 but first he was considered an option for 165 and now there's no reason to cut since he's for sure red shirting. Young is clearly bigger.
You are really this dumb, aren't you?
Let me guess: it either involves someone cutting to 141 who can't do it or 3 guys wrestling up a weight?
I hear ya. I believe the atmosphere of a tourney and a weigh in at their real weights is good. Going back to back matches against other wrestlers is also good. BTW - Young will be very good.
Yikes - I was hoping this discussion would not happen until next fall. I'm sure Guns knows where he fits in in the room. If he is comfortable and confident about keeping 165 (or a 174 slot), he should stay and battle. If he thinks he is clearly outmatched ... he has a tough/easy decision
Yep just a stone cold idiot here. I was mocking you hence he's never wrestled 57. From what his friends and teammates told me 57 would be awful to make and 65 is still a pull. I'm going to believe them and not some giant jerkoff that posts on hawkeye report. I read the interview about 57 also. Im sure he could make it if he wanted to. I've also heard clark and brands interviews on how clarks shoulder is just fine and obviously that's not true.
IMO it is pretty amazing the young kids who go out for the team knowing they will never get on the mat. A ton of dedication and hard work. I tip my hat...Go Hawks
Weird because from my chair I'm being told the opposite so I'm thinking basically thinking the same thing.
Enjoy the super bowl.
Nick Lee wrestled at the Edinboro open and took 3rd, lost to Synon from Mizzou who Happel beat during the open season this year.
Thing is, some of these kids are an injury away from being THE man. Both PSU and IOWA have had it plenty the last couple years. It would be awesome to see another Whitmer story come from a kid that stuck it out.
I don't buy 165 being "a pull" when he was walking sub 170 just prior to the season starting. That was a main reason the decision to RS was so easy. It's great news if it is a pull for him now, due to taking out the chance of him fighting for 157 next year. We need a big, strong bull at 65 next season.
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