Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden — and whether they’d come back

[RicoSuave102954]

Jayden Camarena, in Northern California, is contemplating blowing off the 2024 presidential election. Evan McKenzie, in battleground Wisconsin, is looking for any other candidate than the current front-runners. In Philadelphia, Pru Carmichael isn’t even convinced this race matters.

These young voters live in different cities, work different jobs and have varying political beliefs. But among the things they have in common: They voted for Joe Biden in 2020 — and now say the president can’t count on their support in 2024.

“I genuinely could not live with myself if I voted for someone who’s made the decisions that Biden has,” said McKenzie, a 23-year-old working at Starbucks and as a union organizer in Madison, Wisconsin. “I didn’t even feel great about" voting for Biden back in 2020, he said.
The feeling helps illustrate why Biden’s ratings and support among young voters have dipped noticeably in recent polling. In November, NBC News’ latest national poll showed Biden locked in close competition with former President Donald Trump at the moment for voters ages 18-34, a sharp drop from the margins Biden enjoyed over Trump in the 2020 election, according to exit polling.

“It’s so complicated, because it almost feels like if I were to give my vote for Biden, I will be showing the Democratic Party that what they are putting out is enough, which is the bare minimum in my opinion,” said Camarena, a 24-year-old living outside the Bay Area.

“I want to show the Democratic Party as a young person that you still need to earn our vote and if you don’t, the consequences will be your career,” McKenzie said. “A Republican getting elected isn’t the end. It is the beginning of a much larger fight.”

McKenzie, who graduated in the spring, said he remains unimpressed by the accomplishments of the administration.

Cox said he thinks the Biden campaign "is in deep trouble at this stage.” He said, “There’s still plenty of time, but the trajectory is not good for him.”

Another voter said it’s already too late.

Carmichael, of Philadelphia, hoped the Biden administration would remind her of the Obama days. She says she is disappointed by both Biden and Trump and wants to spend her time focusing on local community care and voting in local elections.

“I don’t think the presidency has too much of an effect on what happens in my day-to-day life,” she said.

Carmichael won’t be supporting Biden in November. If the choices next fall are Biden and Trump, she says, she will likely leave those boxes empty.

“I gave him one shot and it was not worth it,” she said.

MSN

 

[Bonerfarts]

 

[BioHawk]

You've gotta love all these, "Well all the cool kids are doing it" approach at articles the right is trying to use to convince people to vote against their own interests.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

You've gotta love all these, "Well all the cool kids are doing it" approach at articles the right is trying to use to convince people to vote against their own interests.

You underestimate the intelligence of the younger generation, those who voted for Biden in 2020 realize it was a terrible mistake that they won't make again.

You can't run from your record and Bidens record is deplorable.

 

[BioHawk]

You underestimate the intelligence of the younger generation, those who voted for Biden in 2020 realize it was a terrible mistake that they won't make again.

You can't run from your record and Bidens record is deplorable.

Sure. Just like they did in the last 7 elections. You are overestimating their stupidity. 90% of the problems we face as a country right now are because the GOP is a traitor party that has done nothing but undermine our economy and national security for 7 years now. And then they blame it on the Democrats. You might be dumb enough to believe that bs, but young people aren't. And they still know who is for forced birth and who is trying to legislate behavior in the bedroom.

 

[Hawk_82]

Sure. Just like they did in the last 7 elections. You are overestimating their stupidity. 90% of the problems we face as a country right now are because the GOP is a traitor party that has done nothing but undermine our economy and national security for 7 years now. And then they blame it on the Democrats. You might be dumb enough to believe that bs, but young people aren't. And they still know who is for forced birth and who is trying to legislate behavior in the bedroom.

But we still don't believe a man can turn into a woman, or that white people are the biggest threat to our country. This is enough for me to vote republican. A lot of young voters also see through the hypocrisy of the left. You lefties are bat shit crazy imo.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

But we still don't believe a man can turn into a woman, or that white people are the biggest threat to our country. This is enough for me to vote republican. A lot of young voters also see through the hypocrisy of the left. You lefties are bat shit crazy imo.

The reason why most young people are upset with Biden is that he has failed to pass his "far left" campaign promises and instead governed as a moderate.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

The angst over "young voters" amongst the D's is borderline ridiculous.

If Trump is the nominee they ain't voting for him...they'll come "home".

 

[BioHawk]

But we still don't believe a man can turn into a woman, or that white people are the biggest threat to our country. This is enough for me to vote republican. A lot of young voters also see through the hypocrisy of the left. You lefties are bat shit crazy imo.

The sad thing is you have no idea how stupid this comment is. Just for the record, you think that the gender someone believes they are is a greater danger to this country than all out treason. You think that because someone thinks they are a women when they were born with a penis, you think that is a greater danger to our national security than a former President who willingly hands over our biggest secrets to our greatest enemy. You feel that wanting to be treated like a human being for someone who feels they are a man even though they were born with a vagina is a greater threat than a President who actively organizes a coup and tries to kill members of Congress and his own Vice President. That's what you believe. Talk about hypocrisy and being bat shit crazy. Holy shit.

 

[Hawki97]

The sad thing is you have no idea how stupid this comment is. Just for the record, you think that the gender someone believes they are is a greater danger to this country than all out treason. You think that because someone thinks they are a women when they were born with a penis, you think that is a greater danger to our national security than a former President who willingly hands over our biggest secrets to our greatest enemy. You feel that wanting to be treated like a human being for someone who feels they are a man even though they were born with a vagina is a greater threat than a President who actively organizes a coup and tries to kill members of Congress and his own Vice President. That's what you believe. Talk about hypocrisy and being bat shit crazy. Holy shit.

How this isn’t obvious I’ll never understand. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. One party is not performing to my desires and expectations and focuses on shit that is absolutely stupid some times. One party is out right dangerous. I have only one option until that changes. Be Better Republicans.

 

[Finance85]

No matter how someone voted in 2020, or how they vote in 2024, if they are actually voting on issues, or voting because they weighed their options, or choosing not to vote because they don't like their options, that's better than simply voting because of party affiliation. More people should learn to think instead of just letting the team decide.

 

[Hawk_82]

The sad thing is you have no idea how stupid this comment is. Just for the record, you think that the gender someone believes they are is a greater danger to this country than all out treason. You think that because someone thinks they are a women when they were born with a penis, you think that is a greater danger to our national security than a former President who willingly hands over our biggest secrets to our greatest enemy. You feel that wanting to be treated like a human being for someone who feels they are a man even though they were born with a vagina is a greater threat than a President who actively organizes a coup and tries to kill members of Congress and his own Vice President. That's what you believe. Talk about hypocrisy and being bat shit crazy. Holy shit.

Previous dictators have used misinformation as a way to gain control over the people. They limit the freedom of speech to limit dissent. They rewrite history and make people believe things that used to be truths such as gender to now be wrong.

Bill Gates has gone on record saying we need to reduce the population. How do you know the gender issues are not really a way for the elite to decrease our population? If you are sterile, you cant have kids. Most trans people also have mental illness. They are practicing eugenics and are getting rid of the mentally ill by suicide and stopping them from reproducing. If you don't at least consider this option, then you are being naive.

If they can convince people that a man is really a woman, then they can control everything you think.

I just read that Google is now going to be making cities. They are touting this as a solution to our housing crisis because they will provide low rent housing.

The elite establishment are literally trying to take over and control every aspect of our lives. Feeding us lies about gender is just one of the ways they are controlling you.

This may sound conspiratorial, but these ideas are being discussed by the elite. They are putting all the info out there so after it happens, they can say, see we told you this was coming and you voted for us.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Previous dictators have used misinformation as a way to gain control over the people. They limit the freedom of speech to limit dissent. They rewrite history and make people believe things that used to be truths such as gender to now be wrong.

Bill Gates has gone on record saying we need to reduce the population. How do you know the gender issues are not really a way for the elite to decrease our population? If you are sterile, you cant have kids. Most trans people also have mental illness. They are practicing eugenics and are getting rid of the mentally ill by suicide and stopping them from reproducing. If you don't at least consider this option, then you are being naive.

If they can convince people that a man is really a woman, then they can control everything you think.

I just read that Google is now going to be making cities. They are touting this as a solution to our housing crisis because they will provide low rent housing.

The elite establishment are literally trying to take over and control every aspect of our lives. Feeding us lies about gender is just one of the ways they are controlling you.

This may sound conspiratorial, but these ideas are being discussed by the elite. They are putting all the info out there so after it happens, they can say, see we told you this was coming and you voted for us.

 

[BioHawk]

Previous dictators have used misinformation as a way to gain control over the people. They limit the freedom of speech to limit dissent. They rewrite history and make people believe things that used to be truths such as gender to now be wrong.

Bill Gates has gone on record saying we need to reduce the population. How do you know the gender issues are not really a way for the elite to decrease our population? If you are sterile, you cant have kids. Most trans people also have mental illness. They are practicing eugenics and are getting rid of the mentally ill by suicide and stopping them from reproducing. If you don't at least consider this option, then you are being naive.

If they can convince people that a man is really a woman, then they can control everything you think.

I just read that Google is now going to be making cities. They are touting this as a solution to our housing crisis because they will provide low rent housing.

The elite establishment are literally trying to take over and control every aspect of our lives. Feeding us lies about gender is just one of the ways they are controlling you.

This may sound conspiratorial, but these ideas are being discussed by the elite. They are putting all the info out there so after it happens, they can say, see we told you this was coming and you voted for us.

If you were an airline pilot they would take your wings away. This is crazy shit. Seriously, go get help. You need to be medicated.

 

[Hawk_82]

But do you see any truth in any of the different conspiracies? History shows that some of these conspiracies will turn out to be true. So the key is being smart enough to recognize when something is no longer conspiracy and is now just truth.

When the WEF says things like you will own nothing and will be happy, what makes you not believe what they say? This is the same WEF that is funded by Bill Gates and has lots of corporate and global elite sponsors and participants.

 

[Hawk_82]

If you were an airline pilot they would take your wings away. This is crazy shit. Seriously, go get help. You need to be medicated.

I agree its crazy! But I didn't come up with it. This is what the global elite are saying. I am repeating their own agenda.

You are the person who could have been warned about what hitler was going to do before he did it and you would have said it's all conspiracy.

 

[BioHawk]

I agree its crazy! But I didn't come up with it. This is what the global elite are saying. I am repeating their own agenda.

You are the person who could have been warned about what hitler was going to do before he did it and you would have said it's all conspiracy.

WTF are you talking about? Are you high?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Carmichael won’t be supporting Biden in November. If the choices next fall are Biden and Trump, she says, she will likely leave those boxes empty.

If you can't bring yourself to vote for Biden or Trump, look at the various 3rd parties.

No, the 3rd party candidate won't win. But your vote will show the major party leaders which direction you want the country to go. A blank ballot doesn't.

And who knows - maybe some day some 3rd party will be so good that it will win, or come in second. That would shake things up.

 

[Sharky1203]

If you can't bring yourself to vote for Biden or Trump, look at the various 3rd parties.

No, the 3rd party candidate won't win. But your vote will show the major party leaders which direction you want the country to go. A blank ballot doesn't.

And who knows - maybe some day some 3rd party will be so good that it will win, or come in second. That would shake things up.

Great post!!!