Florida One Step Closer to Banning Minors from Social Media: Florida House Approves Social Media Ban For Minors

[NoleATL]

Shouldn't this be up to the parents? It isn't about the children. It's about control. Theocratic control and control of any space where minors can make up their own minds of whether they fall on red and blue topics. Clearly the Reds are losing out when accurate information is consumed. Social media sites should just shut off any request coming from Florida.

Florida House Approves Social Media Ban For Minors​

January 25, 2024 Politics, Republicans


The Messenger reports:

The Florida House of Representatives has passed two bills banning social media for minors under age 16 and requiring age verification for pornographic sites, just two weeks into their 2024 legislative session.
With House approval, the bills will now head to the state Senate before making its way to Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’s desk. If the governor signs both bills, they will likely go into effect in July, according to the Tallahassee Democrat.
The measure does not include which social media platforms will be banned for users under 16. State House Speaker Paul Renner, R, said the bill doesn’t focus on content, but on “addictive technologies” and “the courts will decide” what those are.

 

[HawkMachine]

Shouldn't this be up to the parents? It isn't about the children. It's about control. Theocratic control and control of any space where minors can make up their own minds of whether they fall on red and blue topics. Clearly the Reds are losing out when accurate information is consumed. Social media sites should just shut off any request coming from Florida.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Homeschooling and private schooling indoctrination don't work if your kids can just learn about others online!

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Unfortunately this is turning into another R v D issue. Social media is a net negative for children...the evidence is pretty clear.

Party of Science my ass.

Social Media and Youth Mental Health — Current Priorities of the U.S. Surgeon General

This Advisory describes the current evidence on the impacts of social media on the mental health of children and adolescents.

www.hhs.gov

 

[Funky Bunch]

Social Media and Youth Mental Health — Current Priorities of the U.S. Surgeon General

This Advisory describes the current evidence on the impacts of social media on the mental health of children and adolescents.

www.hhs.gov

And that has nothing to do with the topic

The Surgeon General’s Advisory on Social Media and Youth Mental Health calls for engaging in a multifaceted effort to maximize the benefits and reduce the risk of harm posed by social media with actions suggested for groups including: children and adolescents, policymakers, technology companies, researchers, and families.

 

[auntie_fah]

PaIrEnTuL cHoYs

With that said, social media has sucked since it has introduced ads in your feed as well as giving you algorithmic posts instead of a chronological order of posts from all the accounts you follow/friend.

Of course we will see people bitch about social media in this thread (some of whom will vote for a presidential candidate who posting habits minic an unstable teenager), but they sure will not give up their accounts. The best are the people that complain about X, but still use X

 

[Huey Grey]

Unfortunately this is turning into another R v D issue. Social media is net negative for children...the evidence is pretty clear.

Party of Science my ass.

Social Media and Youth Mental Health — Current Priorities of the U.S. Surgeon General

This Advisory describes the current evidence on the impacts of social media on the mental health of children and adolescents.

www.hhs.gov

It's the Rs making this political.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

It's the Rs making this political.

Everything is political

 

[Huey Grey]

Everything is political

Which the Rs started in this case. You guys are so lazy. Promises of immigration, healthcare, and infrastructure never materialize, so you have to conjure up stuff like this.

 

[srams21]

Unfortunately this is turning into another R v D issue. Social media is a net negative for children...the evidence is pretty clear.

Party of Science my ass.

Social Media and Youth Mental Health — Current Priorities of the U.S. Surgeon General

This Advisory describes the current evidence on the impacts of social media on the mental health of children and adolescents.

www.hhs.gov

While I agree with your general take on social media, shouldn't parents have a say?

Party of personal responsibility, my ass!

 

[irunlikeAcieEarl]

You agree to a user agreement when you use a social media platform, can a minor be responsible for this?

 

[hydro2.0]

Good. Social media is a net negative. Get rid of it all.

 

[Aardvark86]

it would be really cool if they did this, and then authorized private qui tam enforcement remedies under which whistleblowers could share in the recovery of fines against teens.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Which the Rs started in this case. You guys are so lazy. Promises of immigration, healthcare, and infrastructure never materialize, so you have to conjure up stuff like this.

Sounds they they couldn’t even do that well.

Outlaw social media to get the soundbite but then acknowledge you’re just kicking it to the courts? Nice.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

While I agree with your general take on social media, shouldn't parents have a say?

Party of personal responsibility, my ass!

We restrict all kinds of things for children. Alcohol, can't buy a firearm, can't drive till 16. This is no different.

Children off social media would be a societal good. There really is no question about that.

 

[seminole97]

Shouldn't this be up to the parents? It isn't about the children. It's about control. Theocratic control and control of any space where minors can make up their own minds of whether they fall on red and blue topics. Clearly the Reds are losing out when accurate information is consumed. Social media sites should just shut off any request coming from Florida.

Florida House Approves Social Media Ban For Minors​

January 25, 2024 Politics, Republicans


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You're the OP from this thread where I linked the bill language and we found out that it simple empowers parents to make this decision.
It's similar to existing EU legislation that doesn't allow social media companies to build profiles on kids without parental consent.

https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/thre...inors-from-social-media.434581/#post-11780374

 

[ISUBryceC]

Shouldn't this be up to the parents? It isn't about the children. It's about control. Theocratic control and control of any space where minors can make up their own minds of whether they fall on red and blue topics. Clearly the Reds are losing out when accurate information is consumed. Social media sites should just shut off any request coming from Florida.

Florida House Approves Social Media Ban For Minors​

January 25, 2024 Politics, Republicans


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Honestly doesn’t bother me. We don’t let kids smoke because it’s bad for their health. We know social is bad for them.

That said this is completely unenforceable.

 

[Huey Grey]

You're the OP from this thread where I linked the bill language and we found out that it simple empowers parents to make this decision.
It's similar to existing EU legislation that doesn't allow social media companies to build profiles on kids without parental consent.

https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/thre...inors-from-social-media.434581/#post-11780374

No it doesn't. I read the bill. It's an outright ban.

 

[seminole97]

No it doesn't. I read the bill. It's an outright ban.

I can't see your link.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Unfortunately this is turning into another R v D issue. Social media is a net negative for children...the evidence is pretty clear.

Party of Science my ass.

Social Media and Youth Mental Health — Current Priorities of the U.S. Surgeon General

This Advisory describes the current evidence on the impacts of social media on the mental health of children and adolescents.

www.hhs.gov

So do we trust the parents or not?! The GOP clowns can't keep this message straight.

 

[Huey Grey]

I can't see your link.

It's in the thread you linked. It specifically says that minors can neither create nor control accounts. There is nothing about parental permissions to do so.

 

[srams21]

We restrict all kinds of things for children. Alcohol, can't buy a firearm, can't drive till 16. This is no different.

Children off social media would be a societal good. There really is no question about that.

I mean yes it would but where do we draw the line there. Can they post on HROT? Reddit? Message boards?

Those are all forms of social media. And secondly, how exactly will one state enforce this? Again, I agree that social media has serious drawbacks (regardless of age really)

 

[alaskanseminole]

Unfortunately this is turning into another R v D issue. Social media is a net negative for children...the evidence is pretty clear.

This issue is an epidemic that transcends politics.

Too many parents don't want to parent and just hand their kids an unchecked screen to do the parenting for them and look at the results on society.

Remember when people thought that seat belts should be an individual choice?

 

[seminole97]

It's in the thread you linked. It specifically says that minors can neither create nor control accounts. There is nothing about parental permissions to do so.

Ok, I thought maybe there was another bill (would explain OP's amnesia).
You're just misreading this.

Quote the part you think prevents a minor from having an account, versus being able to create an account on their own.

 

[Huey Grey]

I mean yes it would but where do we draw the line there. Can they post on HROT? Reddit? Message boards?

Those are all forms of social media. And secondly, how exactly will one state enforce this? Again, I agree that social media has serious drawbacks (regardless of age really)

Even beyond this, under this bill all adults would be required to input their IDs to post on any of these sites. I have no idea how it would work, but all our Warchant posters would somehow be forced to input their IDs to post here.

 

[Huey Grey]

Ok, I thought maybe there was another bill (would explain OP's amnesia).
You're just misreading this.

Quote the part you think prevents a minor from having an account, versus being able to create an account on their own.

It's in the link in that thread. It specifically says that minors cannot control accounts. You're free to look it up.

 

[seminole97]

Honestly doesn’t bother me. We don’t let kids smoke because it’s bad for their health. We know social is bad for them.

That said this is completely unenforceable.

Have you read how it is enforced, and what is enforced?

 

[B1GDeal]

I'm so confused... when do parents have a choice??? I lose track when choice shifts depending on the topic.

 

[ISUBryceC]

Have you read how it is enforced, and what is enforced?

No, the two articles I’ve read simply say social media companies would be required to use “reasonable age verification methods”, which I’m assuming could be easily circumvented.

 

[alaskanseminole]

No, the two articles I’ve read simply say social media companies would be required to use “reasonable age verification methods”, which I’m assuming could be easily circumvented.

This is probably just the right level of restrictions that will help a parent out. Good parents will be able to tell their kids you're not old enough to have social media and neither are your friends so don't ask and then everybody will be on the same page and we can move on.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Shouldn't this be up to the parents? It isn't about the children. It's about control. Theocratic control and control of any space where minors can make up their own minds of whether they fall on red and blue topics. Clearly the Reds are losing out when accurate information is consumed. Social media sites should just shut off any request coming from Florida.

Florida House Approves Social Media Ban For Minors​

January 25, 2024 Politics, Republicans


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I think this is a GREAT idea!

 

[SoDakHawk]

This is a great bill and I hope it becomes law in every state eventually. Also, it isn't that hard to enforce. The technology is already there if any of you have kids that have Facebook Messenger for Kids or Google Family Link. My kids can't download any apps on their phones or tablets without my permission either through Family Link or me physically present to enter my password on their phone.

As for ownership issue, this could be easily handled by having any social media account a parent allows their kids to have to be a custodial account.

 

[seminole97]

No, the two articles I’ve read simply say social media companies would be required to use “reasonable age verification methods”, which I’m assuming could be easily circumvented.

It provides an enforcement mechanism for the state if the media company doesn’t implement age verification and post the requisite warnings and data collection info.
It empowers parents to request deletion of an account, with an up to $10,000 civil penalty for failure to comply with the request. So basically you sic the lawyers and parents on Facebook’s wallet. I think that’s doable.

 

[seminole97]

It's in the link in that thread. It specifically says that minors cannot control accounts. You're free to look it up.

Do you want minors to control social media accounts without parental awareness?

I read the entire bill before I posted the link the first time. I just reread it. It doesn’t say what you are asserting.

Zuckerberg and friends can’t manipulate your children without your consent. Age verification will bring the parent in the loop so they have a chance to know about their 12 year olds Instagram.

I don’t think this will upset most folks. The only way to get upset seems to be to misconstrue what the law is requiring.

 

[SoDakHawk]

My kids can't buy beer or alcohol, tobacco products, go to R rated movies, buy pornography, go to bars or strip clubs, etc. because they are minors. We put restrictions on minors all the time in this country to protect them from harmful things. Social media is turning out to be a cesspool of harm. People who care about children should not be upset with laws like this.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Ridiculous that this is being considered. There are plenty of ways to limit the harms of social media.

Also if we're being honest people over 65 having social media accounts is worse for the country than some 15 year old.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I mean yes it would but where do we draw the line there. Can they post on HROT? Reddit? Message boards?

Those are all forms of social media. And secondly, how exactly will one state enforce this? Again, I agree that social media has serious drawbacks (regardless of age really)

You bring up good points. Probably impossible to enforce anyway.


It’s wrecking the next generation. Not sure what we do about that

 

[srams21]

You bring up good points. Probably impossible to enforce anyway.


It’s wrecking the next generation. Not sure what we do about that

It's wrecking every generation to be honest. The shit some of my Aunts and uncles is post is just ... bizarre.

 

[mnole03]

My kids can't buy beer or alcohol, tobacco products, go to R rated movies, buy pornography, go to bars or strip clubs, etc. because they are minors. We put restrictions on minors all the time in this country to protect them from harmful things. Social media is turning out to be a cesspool of harm. People who care about children should not be upset with laws like this.

Your kids can absolutely go to R rated movies. It’s just a suggestion for theaters.

 

[Huey Grey]

Do you want minors to control social media accounts without parental awareness?

I read the entire bill before I posted the link the first time. I just reread it. It doesn’t say what you are asserting.

Zuckerberg and friends can’t manipulate your children without your consent. Age verification will bring the parent in the loop so they have a chance to know about their 12 year olds Instagram.

I don’t think this will upset most folks. The only way to get upset seems to be to misconstrue what the law is requiring.

It absolutely says what I'm asserting. There is no parental consent. How are you not getting this?