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India Claims the MOON

Nov 28, 2010
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I once hatched a plan with a friend to sell acres on Jupiter. We figured we'd be long dead before we ever had to answer for it when some descendant of someone showed up on Jupiter and decided to build there.

That idea ended about the time the lunch beer was gone.
 
and then there's Russia:



Russia’s first lunar mission in decades has ended in failure with its Luna 25 spacecraft crashing into the moon’s surface.


The incident, a blow to Russia’s space ambitions, happened after communication with the robotic spacecraft was interrupted.


Russia’s space agency, Roscosmos, said it lost touch with Luna 25 on Saturday around 2:57 p.m. Moscow time.


“The measures taken on August 19 and 20 to search for the device and get into contact with it did not yield any results,” the space agency reported.


According to a “preliminary analysis,” Luna-25 “switched to an off-design orbit” before the collision, Roscosmos said.


It was not immediately clear what caused the crash.


A specially formed commission will investigate the reasons for the loss of Luna 25, the agency added.


The news comes a day after the spacecraft reported an “emergency situation” as it was trying to enter a pre-landing orbit, according to Roscosmos.


“During the operation, an emergency situation occurred on board the automatic station, which did not allow the maneuver to be performed with the specified parameters,” Roscosmos shared in a Telegram post on Saturday.


The spacecraft was meant to complete Russia’s first lunar landing mission in 47 years. The country’s last lunar lander, Luna 24, landed on the surface of the moon on August 18, 1976.


The Luna 25 probe launched from the Vostochny Cosmodrome in Russia’s Amur Oblast on August 10, setting the vehicle on a swift trip to the moon.


Luna 25’s trajectory allowed it to surpass India’s Chandrayaan-3 lunar lander, which launched in mid-July, on the way to the lunar surface.
 
and then there's Russia:



Russia’s first lunar mission in decades has ended in failure with its Luna 25 spacecraft crashing into the moon’s surface.


The incident, a blow to Russia’s space ambitions, happened after communication with the robotic spacecraft was interrupted.


Russia’s space agency, Roscosmos, said it lost touch with Luna 25 on Saturday around 2:57 p.m. Moscow time.


“The measures taken on August 19 and 20 to search for the device and get into contact with it did not yield any results,” the space agency reported.


According to a “preliminary analysis,” Luna-25 “switched to an off-design orbit” before the collision, Roscosmos said.


It was not immediately clear what caused the crash.


A specially formed commission will investigate the reasons for the loss of Luna 25, the agency added.


The news comes a day after the spacecraft reported an “emergency situation” as it was trying to enter a pre-landing orbit, according to Roscosmos.


“During the operation, an emergency situation occurred on board the automatic station, which did not allow the maneuver to be performed with the specified parameters,” Roscosmos shared in a Telegram post on Saturday.


The spacecraft was meant to complete Russia’s first lunar landing mission in 47 years. The country’s last lunar lander, Luna 24, landed on the surface of the moon on August 18, 1976.


The Luna 25 probe launched from the Vostochny Cosmodrome in Russia’s Amur Oblast on August 10, setting the vehicle on a swift trip to the moon.


Luna 25’s trajectory allowed it to surpass India’s Chandrayaan-3 lunar lander, which launched in mid-July, on the way to the lunar surface.
How embarrassing for the first nation in space.

I wonder if Russia's MAGAs yearn for those days?

I wonder why our MAGAs don't seem to yearn for the days when we were doing great things in this arena?
 
Well, not really. But they did land an unmanned rover there.

The last time we sent men to the Moon was over 50 years ago (1972). Shameful. We should have a city there by now, or at least a manned lab/base.

Alexa doesn't seem to know when our last unmanned landing on the moon took place. Have there been any in hte last half century?

I agree. The Moon should be the Hawaii of space. And we should have helped the moon rock farmers overthrow the Moon Queen and claim it for ourselves in order to have a stepping stone to our natural enemy planet- Jupiter.
 
I once hatched a plan with a friend to sell acres on Jupiter. We figured we'd be long dead before we ever had to answer for it when some descendant of someone showed up on Jupiter and decided to build there.

That idea ended about the time the lunch beer was gone.
Acres of what?
 
Russia’s had three successful (survival over an hour) Venus rovers.
 
How embarrassing for the first nation in space.

I wonder if Russia's MAGAs yearn for those days?

I wonder why our MAGAs don't seem to yearn for the days when we were doing great things in this arena?

Our MAGAs think NASA is run by Satanic pedo-cannibals who intentionally started the Maui fire using Directed Energy Weapons.
 
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Well, not really. But they did land an unmanned rover there.

The last time we sent men to the Moon was over 50 years ago (1972). Shameful. We should have a city there by now, or at least a manned lab/base.

Alexa doesn't seem to know when our last unmanned landing on the moon took place. Have there been any in hte last half century?


What a waste of money that would be. James Van Allen was right about manned space travel; Pointless and needless. Especially with the better and better robots we have.
 
What a waste of money that would be. James Van Allen was right about manned space travel; Pointless and needless. Especially with the better and better robots we have.
It’s not pointless considering we have to get off this rock eventually…
 
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Obama was certainly no friend of NASA ...



 
Jupiter doesn’t have a surface.
Do we know that for certain, or is that just our best estimate? How would we know for sure?

I mean it may not have a rocky crust like we and most other planets have in our system, but it could have a molten core that might qualify as a "surface." Or has that been ruled out?
 
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Obama was certainly no friend of NASA ...



Just as George HW Bush severely wound down our space exploration efforts, including quashing a serious space station effort.

These activities don't reap lots of clear short-term profits, so political donors don't want taxes to pay for them.
 
Do we know that for certain, or is that just our best estimate? How would we know for sure?

I mean it may not have a rocky crust like we and most other planets have in our system, but it could have a molten core that might qualify as a "surface." Or has that been ruled out?
We don't know for certain.

Details about Jupiter's core remain a challenge to find. Scientists think that the dense central core may be surrounded by a layer of metallic hydrogen, with another layer of molecular hydrogen on top.

Scientists aren't certain of just how solid Jupiter's core might be. While some theorize that the core is a hot molten ball of liquid, other research indicates that it could be a solid rock 14 to 18 times the mass of the Earth. The temperature at the core is estimated to be about 35,000 degrees Celsius (63,000 degrees Fahrenheit).

Discussions about Jupiter's core didn't even begin until the late 1990s, when gravitational measurements revealed that the center of the gas giant was anywhere from 12 to 45 times the mass of Earth. And just because it had a core in the past doesn't mean that it still will today – new evidence suggests that the gas giant's core may be melting.
 
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