You should at least charge Mitch rent for living in your brain.
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You should at least charge Mitch rent for living in your brain.
I get Mitch's shtick and usually think it's funny. I think his comment here are in bad taste and stupid.
What in this case so far is very reminiscent of Pierre Pierce that is is so sickening? Pierre plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of sexual assault and then later assaulted his girlfriend and attempting to burglarize her apartment. Right now I see nothing even close to Pierces case. You are really good at reserving judgement.
Not defending his take. But when it comes to trolling and Minnesota fans, sympathy is between shit and syphilis in the dictionary...because Minne fans are over here a lot when something bad happens at Iowa.
And here come the defenders of some random athlete that happens to participate for a team or sport some cheer for... I'm sure they held him for 3 days just for fun
Sorry but if you can read that combined with what was released in the police report and not see the horrific aspect of what appears to have happened you might be a bit jaded.
Pitchfork nation is in full swing... Evidence? We don't need evidence... He's guilty because he was held in jail. Maybe the police should have done their due diligence and after this was reported they could have investigated, gathered information and then arrested the individuals if it was deemed worthy.And here come the defenders of some random athlete that happens to participate for a team or sport some cheer for... I'm sure they held him for 3 days just for fun
I simply asked you what was horrific in the linked 911 transcript. If you have nothing, cool. Your comment implied that there was.
Watching you squirm over here HR is over this is, if nothing else, entertaining.
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Yep. Really squirming. What’s entertaining to me is watching how petty and quick some people are to try to bury a kid because they don’t like his team or the way he shuffles on the mat. If he’s found guilty I’ll be right there saying throw the book at him but until then I’m going to let the justice system play out. This is much bigger than a rivalry on the wrestling mat.
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I must be a cold hearted son of a gun because that transcript did not make me think we need to hang anyone or send them to jail for 20 years. Something may have happened that was bad, but from that transcript, it did not seem like
I am glad you said that, because I was thinking it myself. The 911 tape gave no evidence of anything. The real shame here is that in our current snowflake, PC, you hurt my feelings and I need a safe space world, it is hard to tell if something really bad happened or if someone is over reacting. That means either many people will get away with some terrible things or many people will get charged with nothing and deal with the ruined reputation and fall out that follows. I have no knowledge what happened and I am not going to defend or crucify anyone.
My bad... I didn’t realize that pointlessly arguing with a few faceless folks that have absolutely nothing to do directly with the situation here on HR was “letting it play out”.
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Jesus. Everybody needs to chill. Nobody knows what happened or didn’t. I was involved in the Young Women’s Resource Center as an advocate as a volunteer in my earlier years as a lawyer. And heard horrific stories. And many were true and sickening. Some were not true. I have read all the posts. Wendy is right on people not reporting for sure. Now 100 percent of people under 50 having a story I wouldn’t know. Different culture in a right way. So I don’t know stats. Used to but not now. Bottom line, let it play out without speculation. I know this always turns political, but on both sides it is not political to them. My 2 cents.
yeah... that police report is so vague... it doesn't even say how many inches in diameter the inserted object was
This is not just for you, it's for everyone.
One thing I don't like is why are the names and booking pics of the accused released to the media before they are charged? shouldn't the accused be granted confidentiality until they are charged with a crime? i understand giving confidentially to the ALLEGED victim but why not give confidentiality to the accused UNTIL they are charged?
in this case, they weren't charged, yet the public knows their names. if a future potential employer googles their name, up comes the pic of them in an orange suit & the words "sexual assault." Is that fair? I would argue that it isn't.
The Gopher AD must be fuming. First the 10 Gopher football players vs 1 girl and now 7 Gopher wrestlers vs 1 girl?
The culture was supposed to change with that new AD.
Didn't look that way to me in the video.
You're not paying attention. He's always here with a cheap shot.
Didn't an object get inserted which caused an emergency room visit? They aren't keeping a guy in jail for 3 days without something bad happening. Everything points to the poor girl knowing her life will get even worse if she presses charges against a celebrity. 83% says the cops can't convince her to go through with it. She knows her life will become a bigger hell than what they most likely already put her through.
JFYI-The man(criminal) did NOT die from a choke! He had other health issues that was proven.
“We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong”
via Imgflip Meme Generator“Though Mr. Garner had high blood pressure and chronic asthma, Dr. Persechino, a veteran city medical examiner, stood by her finding that his death was a homicide caused by the officer’s use of force. “The chokehold is a significant initial factor of the cascade,” she said.”
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Just an FYI... the guy on the guillotine who said he was in the know that posted that it was 7 wrestlers was proven to not be in the know and has since went back and deleted his comments.
7 or not, 2 were arrested after a girl was sodomized to the point of needing to go to the ER. Whoever did it better get charged. I don't gaf if it's gable steveson or not.
Well that’s going to make that girl feel better, bet she’s glad that got cleared up.
Why not?
Read the Gopher forum... I'm living there rent free, too.
The pure fact that these two fools were incarcerated for 48 hours means something likely bad, happened. The fact that charges have yet to be filed does NOT mean they are innocent.
BTW; Gopher Athletics is still a hemorrhoid on the B1G's ass.
I'm with you WRT holding out until it's all on the table. Based on what I've read there's not enough information out there to start speculating. That said, I'm curious about the use of an object...WTH is that all about? Hmmm...
Sounds like you're nit picking just to get a rise out of her. I'm sure it's not 100 % but I'm also sure it's just you hassling her just for fun or being an ass...
Even if both wrestlers are not charged criminally, there will be a Title IX investigation. Remember, the bar is much lower with a Title IX investigation when compared to the criminal court system. If it's likely that the 2 wrestlers did something wrong, the recommendation from the Title IX investigation could be that the 2 wrestlers be expelled from the University of Minnesota.
I am guessing they are suspended until the Title IX investigation is completed? Will be interesting to see if that is the case (or would they be reinstated, pending the Title IX investigation?).
I am guessing they are suspended until the Title IX investigation is completed? Will be interesting to see if that is the case (or would they be reinstated, pending the Title IX investigation?).
So what..... if Minnesota kicks them out of school I assume they can go somewhere else? They’d fit right in at PSU wouldn’t they....or Nebraska
Check this article out.
Note that one piece of evidence is the medical exam & treatment that the alleged victim received.
As you can see, the 2 wrestlers remain suspended as the criminal investigation continues.
From KSTP (ABC TV station), Minneapolis/St Paul:
June 18, 2019 05:03 PM
The Hennepin County Attorney's Office is not filing charges against a pair of University of Minnesota wrestlers accused of criminal sexual misconduct.
Gable Steveson and Dylan Martinez were arrested Saturday night by Minneapolis police.
However, a release from the county attorney's office said, after reviewing the allegations, a determination was been made that no charges can be brought at this time.
The release stresses the investigation remains active and prosecutors will continue to work with Minneapolis police investigators to review any new evidence that comes in over the next 90 days.
The Minneapolis Police Department's public information report on the incident that led to the arrest of two University of Minnesota wrestlers Saturday night shows the alleged victim in the matter was taken to the hospital for treatment.
In the meantime, Steveson and Martinez, who were both listed on the Hennepin County jail roster, have been released.
On Sunday, following the arrest, a statement from the U of M athletic department said the two wrestlers had been suspended from all team activity pending further investigation.
A follow-up statement Monday said the suspension remains in place, even after the decision of the county attorney's office.
"In light of today's Hennepin County Attorney decision, the suspension will remain in place for both student athletes while the criminal investigation continues, as outlined in the Student-Athlete Code of Conduct," it read.
Steveson was a four-time state champion wrestler at Apple Valley High School and finished his freshman year at the U of M with a 35-2 record. He finished third in the nation at heavyweight.
Martinez came to the Gophers from Fresno City College in California and was a two-time California community college champion.
LINK: https://kstp.com/news/hennepin-coun...harges-at-this-time-gopher-wrestlers/5393970/
Note that one piece of evidence is the medical exam & treatment that the alleged victim received.
As you can see, the 2 wrestlers remain suspended as the criminal investigation continues.
From KSTP (ABC TV station), Minneapolis/St Paul:
June 18, 2019 05:03 PM
The Hennepin County Attorney's Office is not filing charges against a pair of University of Minnesota wrestlers accused of criminal sexual misconduct.
Gable Steveson and Dylan Martinez were arrested Saturday night by Minneapolis police.
However, a release from the county attorney's office said, after reviewing the allegations, a determination was been made that no charges can be brought at this time.
The release stresses the investigation remains active and prosecutors will continue to work with Minneapolis police investigators to review any new evidence that comes in over the next 90 days.
The Minneapolis Police Department's public information report on the incident that led to the arrest of two University of Minnesota wrestlers Saturday night shows the alleged victim in the matter was taken to the hospital for treatment.
In the meantime, Steveson and Martinez, who were both listed on the Hennepin County jail roster, have been released.
On Sunday, following the arrest, a statement from the U of M athletic department said the two wrestlers had been suspended from all team activity pending further investigation.
A follow-up statement Monday said the suspension remains in place, even after the decision of the county attorney's office.
"In light of today's Hennepin County Attorney decision, the suspension will remain in place for both student athletes while the criminal investigation continues, as outlined in the Student-Athlete Code of Conduct," it read.
Steveson was a four-time state champion wrestler at Apple Valley High School and finished his freshman year at the U of M with a 35-2 record. He finished third in the nation at heavyweight.
Martinez came to the Gophers from Fresno City College in California and was a two-time California community college champion.
LINK: https://kstp.com/news/hennepin-coun...harges-at-this-time-gopher-wrestlers/5393970/
So no ones talking? Since objects don’t leave DNA about all they have are witnesses to prosecute.....people wonder why women don’t report sexual assaults.....these guys get off scott free and she lives with the trauma the rest of her life..... I hate this bullshit
not sure who is or isn't talking
you would think that the medical exam would offer clues as to whether she were raped or not; i would think that would be one huge piece of evidence
however, as some have speculated, maybe the alleged victim is not cooperating at this time & its currently the 2 wrestlers' words vs silence....
The "object" was probably sent to the lab. If the victim's DNA is found on the object, that goes a long ways in corroborating her story. The doctors and staff at the ER and others at the house will be interviewed. Maybe Steveson ratted out his teammate and the prosecutors need more time to figure out of Steveson is telling the truth. All sorts of moving parts here.
Prosecutors don't like to move too quick on these cases because once charges are filed the clock starts. It's better to sort it out before hand.
I'd sure like to see the search warrant affidavit.
With PSU's sorry pathetic history, do you really want to start this conversation ?
Sweet Jesus, did a PSU fan really go there? Really?
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