‘Good guy with a gun’ shoots carjacking victim in head — then runs away

[Huey Grey]

Houston police say that an armed man’s attempt to stop a carjacking went terribly wrong on Saturday night when he shot the vehicle’s owner in the head, then fled the scene.

According to KHOU Channel 11 News, the shooting took place around 11:15 p.m. at a Valero gas station in north Houston.

Police officials say that two men jumped the owner of a Chevrolet pickup truck and absconded with his vehicle.

As the men struggled with the car-owner, a passerby produced a gun and fired multiple shots, missing the thieves but striking the victim in the head.

The shooter quickly gathered up his shell casings from the pavement and fled the scene.

The injured man was rushed to a nearby hospital where he is currently in stable condition.

Police recovered the stolen truck about two miles from where the shooting took place. No suspects have been apprehended in the theft or the shooting.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/tex...ots-carjacking-victim-in-head-then-runs-away/

 

[jscott78]

I think gun nut always gonna gun nut. Specially in Texas.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

But but but everything would just so super duper safe if EVERYONE carried a gun.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

If the owner had been carrying in the first place, the whole thing would have been avoided.

 

[fredjr82]

Thank goodness the Valero gas station wasn't a "gun free zone" That car jacking victim wouldn't have been heroically shot in the head if it had been.

 

[theVoicefromtheTomb]

Collateral damage, that's all.

 

[Sooner-Be-Dead]

At least his family will have the car to remember him by.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Just gotta accept that in urban warfare there will be friendly fire incidents. Move on...nothing to see here.

 

[KitingHigh]

He was just saving the cops the trouble of shooting the victim.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I can just hear all the orgasms in this thread over this poor guys fate.

 

[naturalmwa]

I can just hear all the orgasms in this thread over this poor guys fate.

I would cross phone sex operator off your career list.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

But but but everything would just so super duper safe if EVERYONE carried a gun.

If EVERYONE carried a gun, the victim could have safely shot the carjackers before they got him out. Then the passerby and the victim would both have clean shots to take out the perps.

 

[Vroom_C14]

And on the other side of the coin:

An armed passerby, carrying his permitted pistol, is being credited with saving the lives of several people when he stepped in off the street and killed a gunman shooting at occupants of a Philadelphia barbershop.

The incident Sunday began when a man, identified by police only by his age, 40, pulled out a gun and opened fire on barbers and customers inside Falah Barber Shop.

The 40-year-old gunman was taken to Presbyterian Hospital, where he died.

Despite all the gunfire and presence of children in the shop, there were no other injuries.

The armed Good Samaritan later turned himself into police, and while the incident is still under investigation, officials said they see it as a case of self-defense.

“The person who responded was a legal gun permit carrier,” Police Capt. Frank Llewellyn told WCAU News. “He responded, and I guess he saved a lot of people in there.

I know this doesn't fit your bill, sorry.

 

[TexMichFan]

Assuming the guy was actually trying to stop the car jacking.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I would cross phone sex operator off your career list.

I would cross phone sex operator off your career list.

Done. That just leave pimp and Congressman. So, basically the same profession.

 

[naturalmwa]

Done. That just leave pimp and Congressman. So, basically the same profession.

I'd think those are pretty different. Pimps sell people where congressmen are for sale. Same industry, different professions.

 

[Vroom_C14]

I'd think those are pretty different. Pimps sell people where congressmen are for sale. Same industry, different professions.

Congressmen sell us down the river...

 

[naturalmwa]

Congressmen sell us down the river...

There you go, you made it work.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

If EVERYONE carried a gun, the victim could have safely shot the carjackers before they got him out. Then the passerby and the victim would both have clean shots to take out the perps.

Or he could have shot a 6 year old who was playing across the street. The guy intervening missed and shot the victim. Who's to say the victim isn't going to miss and hit an innocent person?

 

[Kenneth Griffin]

Or he could have shot a 6 year old who was playing across the street. The guy intervening missed and shot the victim. Who's to say the victim isn't going to miss and hit an innocent person?

The gun nuts would rather we have one dead innocent victims than one living criminal.

 

[Jan Itor]

At least his family will have the car to remember him by.

He didn't die, dumb ass

 

[SWIowahawks]

The gun nuts would rather we have one dead innocent victims than one living criminal.

What the?

 

[SWIowahawks]

And on the other side of the coin:

An armed passerby, carrying his permitted pistol, is being credited with saving the lives of several people when he stepped in off the street and killed a gunman shooting at occupants of a Philadelphia barbershop.

The incident Sunday began when a man, identified by police only by his age, 40, pulled out a gun and opened fire on barbers and customers inside Falah Barber Shop.

The 40-year-old gunman was taken to Presbyterian Hospital, where he died.

Despite all the gunfire and presence of children in the shop, there were no other injuries.

The armed Good Samaritan later turned himself into police, and while the incident is still under investigation, officials said they see it as a case of self-defense.

“The person who responded was a legal gun permit carrier,” Police Capt. Frank Llewellyn told WCAU News. “He responded, and I guess he saved a lot of people in there.

I know this doesn't fit your bill, sorry.

 

[naturalmwa]

What the?

Don't you think this is a fair point? If more people are packing, there are going to be more innocent people getting popped. Don't you have to be responsible for the effects of your positions?

 

[Vroom_C14]

The gun nuts would rather we have one dead innocent victims than one living criminal.

Go back on your medication.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Don't you think this is a fair point? If more people are packing, there are going to be more innocent people getting popped. Don't you have to be responsible for the effects of your positions?

Or could it be that more criminals get popped? Look at both sides of the coin - or is the Dem coin one of those Chris Angel 2 headed coins?

 

[naturalmwa]

Or could it be that more criminals get popped? Look at both sides of the coin - or is the Dem coin one of those Chris Angel 2 headed coins?

Of course that would happen,but so would the innocent deaths. That was exactly Ken's point. You are only looking at the positives and ignoring the negatives which makes your coin analogy rather ironic.

 

[Kenneth Griffin]

Go back on your medication.

Sorry gun nut, the truth hurts?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

 

[Vroom_C14]

Sorry gun nut, the truth hurts?

Yeah, no. Seriously though your condition is why we need new MI laws.

 

[Kenneth Griffin]

Yeah, no. Seriously though your condition is why we need new MI laws.

Im not the one ok with more innocent people being murdered by a good guy with a gun who cant shoot straight. Doesnt seem to bother you as long as we get a bad guy every once in a while.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Don't you think this is a fair point? If more people are packing, there are going to be more innocent people getting popped. Don't you have to be responsible for the effects of your positions?

Not to mention that encounters and conflicts that might have otherwise resulted in fist fights will quickly turn into shootouts. And everyone in these situations is going to claim self defense. And they will honestly believe it as well.

You could also have a bad chain reaction. Someone comes in with a gun open carry and makes a move that causes another person who's carrying to believe that the first person intends on shooting up the place. So the 2nd person shoots him which leads a 3rd person to think that the 2nd person is a mass murderer so the 3rd person shoots that person thinking that the 1st person was just their 1st victim. Then everyone else starts drawing guns and shooting others because at this point they have no freaking clue who the mass murderer is, just that it isn't them. What you get is a big confined gun fight without clear sides, everyone thinking they are defending themselves and nearly everyone is shot by the time the smoke clears and the bullets stop flying.

 

[naturalmwa]

Not to mention that encounters and conflicts that might have otherwise resulted in fist fights will quickly turn into shootouts. And everyone in these situations is going to claim self defense. And they will honestly believe it as well.

You could also have a bad chain reaction. Someone comes in with a gun open carry and makes a move that causes another person who's carrying to believe that the first person intends on shooting up the place. So the 2nd person shoots him which leads a 3rd person to think that the 2nd person is a mass murderer so the 3rd person shoots that person thinking that the 1st person was just their 1st victim. Then everyone else starts drawing guns and shooting others because at this point they have no freaking clue who the mass murderer is, just that it isn't them. What you get is a big confined gun fight without clear sides, everyone thinking they are defending themselves and nearly everyone is shot by the time the smoke clears and the bullets stop flying.

Well that's one way to solve for global warming.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Well that's one way to solve for global warming.

True but there are lots of ways. . . not all of them good.

 

[Chewback]

Not to mention that encounters and conflicts that might have otherwise resulted in fist fights will quickly turn into shootouts. And everyone in these situations is going to claim self defense. And they will honestly believe it as well.

You could also have a bad chain reaction. Someone comes in with a gun open carry and makes a move that causes another person who's carrying to believe that the first person intends on shooting up the place. So the 2nd person shoots him which leads a 3rd person to think that the 2nd person is a mass murderer so the 3rd person shoots that person thinking that the 1st person was just their 1st victim. Then everyone else starts drawing guns and shooting others because at this point they have no freaking clue who the mass murderer is, just that it isn't them. What you get is a big confined gun fight without clear sides, everyone thinking they are defending themselves and nearly everyone is shot by the time the smoke clears and the bullets stop flying.

Hey, people being shot by private citizens carrying constitutionally protected firearms. It's all good.

 

[TailgateTom]

Im not the one ok with more innocent people being murdered by a good guy with a gun who cant shoot straight. Doesnt seem to bother you as long as we get a bad guy every once in a while.

I would be interested in seeing some factual analysis chronicling crimes averted vs innocents harmed. It seems like, comparatively, this is an isolated incident.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

The gun nuts would rather we have one dead innocent victims than one living criminal.

That's a nice misrepresentation. I want two living would be victims and all dead criminals. That's why conceal and carry works!

 

[Vroom_C14]

Im not the one ok with more innocent people being murdered by a good guy with a gun who cant shoot straight. Doesnt seem to bother you as long as we get a bad guy every once in a while.

Please point out where I said I was okay with it. Hell there's some cops that can't shoot straight.

 

[SWIowahawks]

Don't you think this is a fair point? If more people are packing, there are going to be more innocent people getting popped. Don't you have to be responsible for the effects of your positions?

A fair point? No. Not even a rational point.

 

[naturalmwa]

A fair point? No. Not even a rational point.

I explained the rationale already. When your proposed solution creates problems, those problems should get factored into the assessment of the solution's effectiveness. Arming all persons would certainly kill more bad guys. It would also kill more good guys. So anyone that embraces this solution must be given credit for both outcomes.