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‘Noles and Florida peeps: What can you tell me about Embry-Riddle University and Daytona Beach?

Menace Sockeyes

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Son got his first NCAA offer to go there and play soccer. He had planned on a JUCO here in Iowa but is really thinking about it because of his major. I have zero knowledge of the area, but it’s apparently highly rated in his program of study. The were not good in men’s soccer though (not a big deal to us).
 
Does he want to study aeronautics? It's an elite school for that.

Daytona Beach is a rather dangerous place. It's an event town and a magnet for homeless people. The area between Nova Road and Beach Street is ghetto, and there are serious drug problems on the strip of old motels through there.
 
Does he want to study aeronautics?

Daytona Beach is a rather dangerous place. It's an event town and a magnet for homeless people. The area between Nova Road and Beach Street is ghetto, and there are serious drug problems on the strip of old motels through there.
Yes. Aeronautical Technician. He’d make starting about what I make now. I figured it would be rougher area, but wondering particularly about campus.
 
Start working on his Daytona mullet now.

ER is a mediocre engineering school. Does he have any assurance of degree/program acceptance?
 
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Start working on his Daytona mullet now.

ER is a mediocre engineering school. Does he have any assurance of degree/program acceptance?
Not yet, but his program of study shouldn’t be a problem with his academics and resume’.
 
Bachelors of Aviation Maintenance Science?

Looks like they only take 30 kids per year. And less than half graduate.
He’s thinking of aiming for the Associate’s Degree equivalent and see if he wants to go for the Bachelor’s program from there.
 
UPDATE: It’s been a week since college started. Went the JUCO route on a (last minute) academic scholarship for Aviation Maintenance Science. No varsity soccer program at his school, just club. Ultimately, he wanted to stay closer to friends, family, and of course his GF who’s a Senior in HS this year. I think @The Tradition scared him off ERU and Daytona Beach 😆. /CSB
 
UPDATE: It’s been a week since college started. Went the JUCO route on a (last minute) academic scholarship for Aviation Maintenance Science. No varsity soccer program at his school, just club. Ultimately, he wanted to stay closer to friends, family, and of course his GF who’s a Senior in HS this year. I think @The Tradition scared him off ERU and Daytona Beach 😆. /CSB
Good start. If he digs into the field, more education can come later.
Congrats, Poppa.
 
Most of their business is guys getting out of the military and transitioning to the civilian world. They are really good at that. Most are guys that have already worked on aircraft in thr air force

Your son made the right choice.
 
Most of their business is guys getting out of the military and transitioning to the civilian world. They are really good at that. Most are guys that have already worked on aircraft in thr air force

Your son made the right choice.
That is the kind of place that can really build camaraderie between students and instructors. The old guys with real world experiences help the young, while the young bring energy and enthusiasm. Education can become fun and rewarding for all, especially when an increase in income and stability is obviously one of the outcomes.
The US is sorely in need of more vocational and technical training schools of this type.
Good luck, Little Menace.
 
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You say he wants to be in aeronautical technician. Is that a fancy way of saying airplane mechanic? Because I am an airplane mechanic and my job title is aerospace maintenance technician.

If he just wants to be a mechanic, he's going to pay four times the price at Embry Riddle than what I did at Iowa Western community college for the same certificate.

If there's more to it than that, then by all means embry riddle is considered a highly regarded school in the aeronautical industry.
 
It’s a sausage factory. Go to a state school in the Midwest that offers aviation programs. Or private, might I suggest STL U?
 
@Menace Sockeyes

You say he wants to be in aeronautical technician. Is that a fancy way of saying airplane mechanic? Because I am an airplane mechanic and my job title is aerospace maintenance technician.

If he just wants to be a mechanic, he's going to pay four times the price at Embry Riddle than what I did at Iowa Western community college for the same certificate.

If there's more to it than that, then by all means embry riddle is considered a highly regarded school in the aeronautical industry.
Oh, very cool. He wants to do what you are doing (airplane mechanic), and then perhaps get an advanced degree later. He’s also interested in potentially being an IndyCar mechanic after going to the Indy Series race at Iowa Speedway last year. That uncertainty, and the not being full scholarship down there is why he chose staying close to home. I think Iowa Western and Marshalltown were his other potential choices. Two of the best JUCO soccer programs in the nation, but they weren’t serious about recruiting him (found out during this process that Iowa is a hub of men’s JUCO soccer). You will probably know where it is when I say this, but he was excited to join where he did because he’ll be the first graduating class in the program at his school. Would love to hear more about the job from you. Sounds like it is, or will be, very in demand.
 
It’s a sausage factory. Go to a state school in the Midwest that offers aviation programs. Or private, might I suggest STL U?
He’s JUCO in-state now for it. We’ll see where he goes from there. But SLU would be fun just for him to be around such a legendary soccer program.
 
He’s JUCO in-state now for it. We’ll see where he goes from there. But SLU would be fun just for him to be around such a legendary soccer program.
I know everyone values 4 years if it’s just his A&P he can get that JUCO route and save the money. So many jobs, 4 year degrees don’t matter anymore. Hell Delta dropped their 4 year degree requirement for their pilots, which is unheard of.
 
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A few pieces of advice from an industry insider.

1. Give up the pipe dream of working for Indy. That's the top 1% of the 1% of the 1%. And personal connections and luck play far more into your ability to get those jobs than being a good mechanic.

A more realistic dream is to work in the corporate industry as a mechanic. Those jobs are much more common and a great inside path to those jobs is to be an aircraft detailer for ex company while you're in school. St start at the bottom. Earn a good reputation and by the time you graduate, you'll have a six-figure job right out of school.

2. If he's unsure about the advanced degree, the absolute BEST thing to do is get his mechanic certificates both airframe and power plant at a community college. That certificate from a community college is worth just the same as a certificate from embry riddle, or Spartan, or any of the other high dollar places.And save thousands upon thousands of dollars. 2 years of mechanic school followed by a foot in the airline door will put him in the best position to figure out what he wants to do down the road.

3. I went to Iowa Western. The only thing they give a s*** about is athletics. All of their athletic teams are very highly ranked. If he's scared of not starting, the real question becomes is he willing to put in the work to become a stater. IW is actually a pretty nice little campus and even though council bluffs isn't much, at least you got Omaha right there. And from someone who went through the program I would absolutely recommend it to anyone.

Again, just some advice from someone in the industry. Take it for what it's worth
 
Iowa Western has a program with offutt Air Force Base in Omaha. We're off. It will take students from the program and have them start working on base as helper mechanics. It's a great way to step right into a government contracting job right out of school.

ConAgra in Omaha will hire students from the program to be aircraft detailers and then we'll hire them straight into being a mechanic fun completion of school. Great way to step right into a very high paying job.

There are a few regional airlines that will hire you before you graduate school, pay for all your testing, maybe a small relocation assistance, and some will even give you tools. I was hired by a regional airline before I even graduated the Iowa Western program. Being an airline. Mechanic is a great industry to get into right now.
 
Seriously- the absolute BEST thing he can't do for his future. Is 2 years of mechanic schoolb at a community college followed by 2 years as a mechanic somewhere. Preferably in the airline industry as opposed to generally aviation.

From there if he wants to go back to school, go for it. You can always go back to school. But by going to a community college he will have saved himself or his parents thousands of dollars for the same certificate he would have got somewhere else. Seriously, it's the EXACT SAME CERTIFICATE.

2 years in the airline industry is the perfect amount of time to build some experience and open doors to companies such as FedEx UPS main line airlines etc. Depending on the airline most of the pay rates for new mechanics (i.e.- 2 years of regional experience) will start out in upper 20s with top outs and seven or eight years in the low to mid 60s per hour.

I'm happy to talk to him if he wants. You can find me on Facebook under Andy Kozisek
 
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I know everyone values 4 years if it’s just his A&P he can get that JUCO route and save the money. So many jobs, 4 year degrees don’t matter anymore. Hell Delta dropped their 4 year degree requirement for their pilots, which is unheard of.
Military would have been a good option if it wasn't for soccer. Could have learned his skill and then had Uncle Sam pay for his piece of paper that he already knows how to do. I think half of the military is involved in some type of logistics. He could just party in college. I am not a veteran by the way.
 
I just saw that a lot of the stuff was posted back in March. Sorry if it's too late for any of my advice. But it sounds like he did the right thing in mechanic school at a community college. Good on him. Again, I'm happy to answer any questions for him about the industry, etc. Congrats to your son. His future is as bright as he wants it to be
 
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Most of their business is guys getting out of the military and transitioning to the civilian world. They are really good at that. Most are guys that have already worked on aircraft in thr air force

Your son made the right choice.

That is the kind of place that can really build camaraderie between students and instructors. The old guys with real world experiences help the young, while the young bring energy and enthusiasm. Education can become fun and rewarding for all, especially when an increase in income and stability is obviously one of the outcomes.
The US is sorely in need of more vocational and technical training schools of this type.
Good luck, Little Menace.

I just saw that a lot of the stuff was posted back in March. Sorry if it's too late for any of my advice. But it sounds like he did the right thing in mechanic school at a community college. Good on him. Again, I'm happy to answer any questions for him about the industry, etc. Congrats to your son. His future is as bright as he wants it to be

UPDATE II: He is officially a licensed aircraft mechanic! Passed his FAA Powerplant test with flying colors. Just today, he and his friend from school (who were top two in their class) both took a job with an Iowa company. Most of his classmates were military. We talked with them quite a bit at the Holiday party and the ceremony. They said they were "tired of being yelled at" in the military. But he and the other top guy were the two that jived the best. Happy for him as he'll make at 20 what I didn't make until 35. And thanks for the kind words, @Kozisek. I think he made the right decision, and he loves it more than he even thought he might. Bless him, he gets his mechanical brain from my wife :p. (Her father worked for the AF and sadly died while working on a plane)
 
I missed this the first time around. Definitely known as the aeronautical school.

I know two guys from high school that went there. One is a pilot and the other is a traveling mechanic for some silly thing where rich people pay to fly their own planes on tours.

If you’d told me then what either of them is making now, I would have laughed in your face.
 
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UPDATE II: He is officially a licensed aircraft mechanic! Passed his FAA Powerplant test with flying colors. Just today, he and his friend from school (who were top two in their class) both took a job with an Iowa company. Most of his classmates were military. We talked with them quite a bit at the Holiday party and the ceremony. They said they were "tired of being yelled at" in the military. But he and the other top guy were the two that jived the best. Happy for him as he'll make at 20 what I didn't make until 35. And thanks for the kind words, @Kozisek. I think he made the right decision, and he loves it more than he even thought he might. Bless him, he gets his mechanical brain from my wife :p. (Her father worked for the AF and sadly died while working on a plane)
Congratulations to him.
 
Well, old thread, but one of the wife's BFFs graduated from there, and she never used the degree. She married a guy who went into the Air Force and followed him around while he was an A-10 pilot. Probably a waste, but her parents are loaded. Her oldest daughter is there now and is planning on being a commercial airline pilot like dad became after his 20 years in the AF were up.
 
Son got his first NCAA offer to go there and play soccer. He had planned on a JUCO here in Iowa but is really thinking about it because of his major. I have zero knowledge of the area, but it’s apparently highly rated in his program of study. The were not good in men’s soccer though (not a big deal to us).
It’s a legit path to an aviation career if you can afford to take it to the end.
 
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Now, if he could just dump his toxic girlfriend instead of talking about marrying her 😬.
If you need help, I “gotta guy”.
J/K, hope for all the best.

The path little Menace took reminds me of my favorite ten years of work life. I was teaching vocational programs at a CC. We had a great mix of high school kids coming in and older folks “returning” to the classroom.
Back then the NC CC system was viewed as on of the best in the US and a lot of states would send visitors to talk to us about what we had going on.
The atmosphere was a mix of fun and serious as everybody was there for a purpose. We had students from many different states and some from over the waters as our programs were a niche specialty.
Off shoring killed much of the industry and our stuff was shut down. Good memories and some long time friendships remain.
 
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