“This is not a normal Court”
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Free speech has always been the rule of the land. And having an opinion about the speech one choose to express is the core of this freedom.
Say what you'd like. I don't think we should have laws limiting it. But it is also my choice not to like what you are saying, my choice whether to listen to it and my choice as to whether to challenge it or find it offensive.
NFL players are free to kneel. I have never argued otherwise. But the NFL, as an employer, has the right to restrict freedom of speech as an element of employment. That was the issue there. IMO. I would never choose to restrict ones decision to kneel on their own. For example at a 4th of July celebration or a fan at a high school football game. But I also have the freedom to tell them I think its inappropriate.
When conservatives don't receive the election results they desire, they act like petulant children and embark on campaigns to discredit the election.
I don't remember the Hillary Clinton supporters storming the Capitol in the name of overthrowing an election but I could be wrong.
Yeah, but they got the decision they wanted so who cares if it makes a mockery of our courts?No one solicited her to make a same-sex wedding website. She made it up after filing her suit.
The Mysterious Case of the Fake Gay Marriage Website, the Real Straight Man, and the Supreme Court
In filings in the 303 Creative v. Elenis case is a supposed request for a gay wedding website—but the man named in the request says he never filed it.newrepublic.com
Not quite as dramatic as the 1/6 Rebellion organized by President Trump. Not nearly as photogenic, either.
No that's true.
What I do remember though is her campaign paying for a piece of opposition research that was then used to weaponize an entire department of the executive branch by mobilizing them against a duly elected President. This department failed to then head warnings that it was being used as such by the campaign and in lacking to pursue due diligence, they cast a large shadow over an entire administration. Some of the members of that branch being complicit in this plan that included falsifying FISA court filings and failing to inform those actually investigating the President of the source of the 'evidence' presented against him. I'd suggest this is far worse as this mobilized the full force and weight of the federal government rather than 2000 or so largely unarmed citizens. This rebellion of sort was turned back in short order while we are still feeling the effects of the Clinton coup.
Really? I don't recall anything like this ...
No, your group already had control of the internal workings of our bureaucracy and chose to go for the slow kill...
very nice,.. but now I see that I appear to be echoing your conversation,.. sorry about that, all yours.
The US Supreme Court has reversed itself 146 times. It happens.
No I wasn't complaining. They posted at the same time. Just pointing out you said better in one sentence what I said in 2 paragraphs!
Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump’s swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.
At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.
The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.
In the violence, knots of activists in black clothes and masks threw rocks and bottles at officers wearing riot gear, who responded with volleys of tear gas and stun grenades as a helicopter hovered low overhead.
At one flash point, a protester hurled an object through the passenger window of a police van, which sped away in reverse as demonstrators cheered. Earlier, activists used chunks of pavement and baseball bats to shatter the windows of a Bank of America branch and a McDonald’s outlet, all symbols of American capitalism.
Multiple vehicles were set on fire, including a black limousine. A knot of people dragged garbage cans into a street a few blocks from the White House and set them ablaze, later throwing a red cap bearing Trump’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan into the flames.
Police said six officers were injured in scuffles with protesters. The people arrested would be held overnight before making court appearances on Saturday, Peter Newsham, interim chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, told a news conference. Newsham added that police would continue to monitor security around the night’s celebrations.
Friday’s protests played out just blocks from Pennsylvania Avenue, where New York businessman-turned-Republican politician Trump took part in the traditional parade a newly sworn in president takes from the U.S. Capitol to the White House.
The various protest groups scattered around the city chanted anti-Trump slogans and carried signs with slogans including “Trump is not president” and “Make Racists Afraid Again.”
“Trump is not going to be stopped at the top, he’s going to be stopped from the bottom, from people rising up,” said Ben Allen, a 69-year-old retired teacher from San Francisco. “We support the right of everybody in this country, no matter what nationality, what religion, the color of their skin, to be respected as a human being, and this guy doesn’t respect anybody.”
“We thought there would be protests but we didn’t expect violence,” said Shiring, a college student from Hartford, Connecticut. “We were hoping for a completely peaceful transfer of power.”
Democratic officials, including Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser, condemned the violence.
The U.S. Secret Service, Washington police and other law enforcement agencies had about 28,000 officers in place to secure a roughly three-square-mile (7.8 square km) of the city.
Violence flares in Washington during Trump inauguration
Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump's swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.
www.reuters.com
Not far from the White House, Bob Hrifko, a member of the Bikers for Trump group, said he was struck in the face with an aluminum chair when he tried to intervene in a scuffle involving police and protesters.
“We need more order. This ain’t right,” said Hrifko, who was bleeding from a cut under his eye.
Sympathy protests were held around the nation and the world, in cities including Los Angeles, Tokyo and London.
In Seattle, one person was shot in the abdomen during a demonstration at the University of Washington, the Seattle Police Department said on Twitter. Demonstrators gathered there to protest Trump and conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, who gave a talk on campus, local media reported.
In Portland, protesters threw rocks, bottles and flares at police dressed in riot gear, who fired irritant and flash-bang devices back at them, according to local media and police.
But in Moscow, Russians hoping Trump will usher in a new era of detente with their country celebrated his inauguration.
In Washington, David Guthrie, a long-haired, bearded, 36-year-old from South Bend, Indiana, stood stark naked on a street corner with an obscenity and “Trump” written on his buttocks in black magic marker.
As he stood, he was pepper sprayed by police, but stood with his eyes clenched, saying he wanted to prompt “a national conversation on the illegitimacy of the Trump presidency.”
“We need more order. This ain’t right,” said Hrifko, who was bleeding from a cut under his eye.
Sympathy protests were held around the nation and the world, in cities including Los Angeles, Tokyo and London.
In Seattle, one person was shot in the abdomen during a demonstration at the University of Washington, the Seattle Police Department said on Twitter. Demonstrators gathered there to protest Trump and conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, who gave a talk on campus, local media reported.
In Portland, protesters threw rocks, bottles and flares at police dressed in riot gear, who fired irritant and flash-bang devices back at them, according to local media and police.
But in Moscow, Russians hoping Trump will usher in a new era of detente with their country celebrated his inauguration.
In Washington, David Guthrie, a long-haired, bearded, 36-year-old from South Bend, Indiana, stood stark naked on a street corner with an obscenity and “Trump” written on his buttocks in black magic marker.
As he stood, he was pepper sprayed by police, but stood with his eyes clenched, saying he wanted to prompt “a national conversation on the illegitimacy of the Trump presidency.”
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