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You know, if we were told before the season started that Iowa would finish the season at 10-2, we would have all been doing back flips. Now, think how disappointed we would feel if Iowa finished the regular season at 10-2. I don't see it happening, but I see at least three treacherous games on the schedule, but all four could give the Hawks fits. Or, Iowa will take care of business like they have all season.
 
I think the two toughest games left are (in order) Indiana and Nebraska. I just don't see the Hawks losing to Minnesota or Purdue. Barring losing CJ or other major injuries of course.
 
Lets face it, regardless of who Iowa plays there will be some of you that will be nervous about that particular opponent. We could play Oregon State and some people will be worried about it based on something that happened earlier in the season
 
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I really wasn't to worried about Minnesota, till I saw how they took michigan to the end.

They were riding an emotional high after Kill resigned. That high was followed by a crushing defeat to a ranked rival.

I'm telling myself MN won't be able to play to that level again.
 
House Money baby. 10-2 is still great. Yes it would be disappointing in a sense, given this is the soft part of our schedule but it's all House Money at this point.
 
House Money baby. 10-2 is still great. Yes it would be disappointing in a sense, given this is the soft part of our schedule but it's all House Money at this point.

i see you. and you're not wrong. very few seriously thought we'd be in this position right now. but i just cannot buy the idea that losing to any of the four remaining teams on our schedule is acceptable on any level. does that mean we are beyond reproach? now way. we all remember the NW game in 2005. Iowa is more than capable of botching a game if they don't respect their opponent. but, house money or not, we should win these last four games (assuming no more major injuries to key players)
 
i see you. and you're not wrong. very few seriously thought we'd be in this position right now. but i just cannot buy the idea that losing to any of the four remaining teams on our schedule is acceptable on any level. does that mean we are beyond reproach? now way. we all remember the NW game in 2005. Iowa is more than capable of botching a game if they don't respect their opponent. but, house money or not, we should win these last four games (assuming no more major injuries to key players)

A bit over the top don't you think? Road game against an IU team that put themselves in a position to beat O$U and MSU, a loss this weekend on the road would be disappointing but far from unacceptable if you ask me. While we play Minnesota at home, they are a dangerous team playing with a heavy heart and a lot of inspiration for their coach who was forced to retire. I'll give you Purdue, losing to them would be about as close to unacceptable as you can get, but the final game against Nebraska will be difficult despite their struggles this season. Its funny who perception and expectations can swing so dramatically in just a couple months.
 
They were riding an emotional high after Kill resigned. That high was followed by a crushing defeat to a ranked rival.

I'm telling myself MN won't be able to play to that level again.

Not so fast my friend. When Kill was out of commission a couple years ago the team played really well and I think the staff was a little more innovative. Not saying they are a better team now, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them. They will be ready.
 
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Not so fast my friend. When Kill was out of commission a couple years ago the team played really well and I think the staff was a little more innovative. Not saying they are a better team now, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them. They will be ready.
Not to mention that Minnesota does not like us, so they will be up for that game. Of course, after they pasted us last year, and it is a night game at Kinnick, I should think the Hawks should not have trouble getting up for that game.
 
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Perception is a funny thing. I predicted this team as 6-6 or 7-5 given our situation at OT, DT, LB and to some degree at WR and our special teams always are a ??. Knew we were stronger at DE, defensive backs, TE and RB and had hope for Beathard. However, through a combination of hard work, refocus by players and coaches and some players raising their level of play, this team has performed quite well. We can complain about lots of different things, but I think Kirk has reminded us many times in the past that Iowa football will often be a team where one injury or just a couple of plays can change the outcome of our games between win or loss. If you are a realist, if Koehn doesn't make the FG against Pitt and we play OT and Wisc doesn't fumble on the goal line, we could just as well be 6-2 and all of the discussion would be about whether we can get to the Gator Bowl or Taxslayer Bowl. Believe me, I am thrilled that this team has exceeded nearly every expectation and hope that continues for next 4 weeks and then we can think about the CCG and beyond. Perception and some perspective shall remain.
 
There are worse things than going 10-2 and playing in the Holiday Bowl. Before the season, everyone on this board would have taken that in a heartbeat.

It sure is exciting right now, knowing a Big 10 Championship and a possible playoff appearance is within Iowa's grasp!

And if the Hawk's fall short...yes, it would be disappointing, but still a great season! And the best, most fondly remembered seasons are those where the success was completely unanticipated.
 
Lets face it, regardless of who Iowa plays there will be some of you that will be nervous about that particular opponent. We could play Oregon State and some people will be worried about it based on something that happened earlier in the season

Gary Andersen is their now. Gary is 2-0 against KF... ;)

Very valid point. However, there's always a case for the other side. This is a message board and you're going to hear opinions on both sides. Provided CJ is healthy enough to play, Indiana is the only team left that scares me. During this losing stretch, Indiana has been with out Jordan Howard for half of the tOSU game, limited in Michigan State game, and out for PSU and Rutgers games. They definitely have a more balanced offense with him in there. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's the best RB on our schedule.

Purdue doesn't scare me ever.
We owe Minnesota a beat down for making us sit through that cold beat down last year. Plus night game, blackout, sell out.
Nebraska has talent there and have been very dinged up, but we have better coaching. Not worried.
 
I really wasn't to worried about Minnesota, till I saw how they took michigan to the end.
I think that was the Jerry Kill retirement announcement Factor. At home in front of a crazy crowd facing the fighting Harbaughs. 70000 drunken, rabid, Iowa fans will make a much bigger difference. Not to mention that game could be to clench the Western Division
 
Not so fast my friend. When Kill was out of commission a couple years ago the team played really well and I think the staff was a little more innovative. Not saying they are a better team now, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss them. They will be ready.
As mentioned... at Kinnick. Plus... The interim coach knew when Kill was temporarily sidelined that he would be back. The new guy simply choked this one away and looked lost on the sideline shots of him. He was the defensive guy and they gave up the winning td to the backup qb. He's out of his league as a head coach.

Hawks win this one comfortably.
 
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A bit over the top don't you think? Road game against an IU team that put themselves in a position to beat O$U and MSU, a loss this weekend on the road would be disappointing but far from unacceptable if you ask me. While we play Minnesota at home, they are a dangerous team playing with a heavy heart and a lot of inspiration for their coach who was forced to retire. I'll give you Purdue, losing to them would be about as close to unacceptable as you can get, but the final game against Nebraska will be difficult despite their struggles this season. Its funny who perception and expectations can swing so dramatically in just a couple months.

Unfortunately the emotions of one's opponent, rivalry games or trying to hand an undefeated team their first loss doesn't effect a teams SOS when they're obviously huge motivating factors.
 
A bit over the top don't you think? Road game against an IU team that put themselves in a position to beat O$U and MSU, a loss this weekend on the road would be disappointing but far from unacceptable if you ask me. While we play Minnesota at home, they are a dangerous team playing with a heavy heart and a lot of inspiration for their coach who was forced to retire. I'll give you Purdue, losing to them would be about as close to unacceptable as you can get, but the final game against Nebraska will be difficult despite their struggles this season. Its funny who perception and expectations can swing so dramatically in just a couple months.

I started to write a post where I backed off my opinion a bit, but the more I wrote the less I believed it. that said, no, I don't think I was being over the top. You made several great points about the relative strength of our remaining opponents. And on those points I certainly agree. Indiana is not a pushover etc etc. I agree 100%. However, we are a better team. We have a stronger defense and our offense is more complete. That statement is true for all the remaining opponents. we should be able to defeat all the four teams. and if we fall to any of them (barring unforeseen calamitous injuries) it will be unacceptable.

edit: to be clear, i'm as nervous about winning this weekend as everyone is. to borrow a quote from BHGP's latest B1G Power Rankings, "I'm always a little worried--especially this year when Iowa is undefeated and favored in the rest of their games." I don't want to project a notion that these games are "gimmies." not at all. Simply that we are better and should win them all.
 
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15-0 - Christmas Day x365 (National Champs!)
14-1 - Christmas Day x10 - we are on the Map! (Lose National Championship Game)
13-1 - Pinch myself dreamstate (Win BTCG and Lose Semi Final Game OR Lose BTCG and Win Bowl Game)
12-2 - Season for the Ages (Lose BTCG and Bowl Game)
11-2 - (Brain is sore, cannot find this scenario)
10-3 - Solid Season, But Fell Off The Track, Meltdown (No BTCG)
9-4 - Bury Head In Sand, Pray for Basketball team
8-5 - Close Down Program

Please double check, could be off on scenarios. Still quite a huge range still.
 
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15-0 - Christmas Day x365 (National Champs!)
14-1 - Christmas Day x10 - we are on the Map! (Lose National Championship Game)
13-1 - Pinch myself dreamstate (Win BTCG and Lose Semi Final Game OR Lose BTCG and Win Bowl Game)
12-2 - Season for the Ages (Lose BTCG and Bowl Game)
11-2 - (Brain is sore, cannot find this scenario)
10-3 - Solid Season, But Fell Off The Track, Meltdown (No BTCG)
9-4 - Bury Head In Sand, Pray for Basketball team
8-5 - Close Down Program

Please double check, could be off on scenarios. Still quite a huge range still.
Could go 11-2 if we lose 2 of the next 4 games and Wisconsin wins out, thereby Wiscy goes to Indy and we sit home at 10-2. Then we win a bowl game to make it 11-2.
 
Lets face it, regardless of who Iowa plays there will be some of you that will be nervous about that particular opponent. We could play Oregon State and some people will be worried about it based on something that happened earlier in the season
Trust me, Oregon State is not good. At all.
 
I started to write a post where I backed off my opinion a bit, but the more I wrote the less I believed it. that said, no, I don't think I was being over the top. You made several great points about the relative strength of our remaining opponents. And on those points I certainly agree. Indiana is not a pushover etc etc. I agree 100%. However, we are a better team. We have a stronger defense and our offense is more complete. That statement is true for all the remaining opponents. we should be able to defeat all the four teams. and if we fall to any of them (barring unforeseen calamitous injuries) it will be unacceptable.

edit: to be clear, i'm as nervous about winning this weekend as everyone is. to borrow a quote from BHGP's latest B1G Power Rankings, "I'm always a little worried--especially this year when Iowa is undefeated and favored in the rest of their games." I don't want to project a notion that these games are "gimmies." not at all. Simply that we are better and should win them all.

I'm always curious when fans use the term unacceptable, it that's the case and Iowa loses a game in the next 4 what will be the consequence on your part? Would you boycott the B1G title game?

BTW, I agree with you that the Hawks are the better team and SHOULD win each of the next 4. I'm just in a place where if they drop 1 it won't necessarily surprise me and it is what it is, a misstep in so far a great season.
 
I'm always curious when fans use the term unacceptable, it that's the case and Iowa loses a game in the next 4 what will be the consequence on your part? Would you boycott the B1G title game?

BTW, I agree with you that the Hawks are the better team and SHOULD win each of the next 4. I'm just in a place where if they drop 1 it won't necessarily surprise me and it is what it is, a misstep in so far a great season.

fair question. for me, there are times when, after we lose, I can objectively look at the matchup and say that, yes, we deserved to lose and we had no real shot to win and it all makes perfect sense...the best team did win. i accept this loss as being fair and measured. However, if Iowa drops a game to the next four it will be due to a major screw-up on our part. we will have given the game away. these are not "evenly matched teams" where it's a toss-up. nor are we underdogs just hoping for a chance in the 4th quarter. we are the favorites and we should win. if we don't, by these terms, it will be UNacceptable. I won't boycott and I won't call for KF to be fired...nothing like that. I simply won't accept that the "better team won." of course, it should be said, that the better teams don't always win, and that's why you play the game, and on any given sunday, and etc etc etc...it's all true. i'm as nervous as anyone right now about Indiana's QB and their history of carving up our secondary and all the rest. But, objectively, we are the better team and we should win. that is all i'm trying to say.

I also agree that I wouldn't be surprised if we did drop a game somewhere down the line. i feel this way mostly due to our history and my bitter feelings towards some of our poor losses that derailed otherwise special seasons. And, to be totally honest, I'm glad you reminded me that this, too, is a special season regardless of what a loss will do to it. that's the truth; this has been a special season and will be regardless. I've become greedy and I want it all, or at least a shot at "it all." it's right there and I feel it would be a sports-tragedy if we didn't TCB and ride into Indianapolis with something even bigger than a conference championship at stake.
 
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I think things set up really nicely and there's some factors in play in every game that help us.
Indiana, probably the toughest game left on the schedule in terms of how good the other team is. But with the national disrespect that has taken place all week, hard to think we won't see a pissed off team with a bit of an edge Saturday and that's when we play our best football.
Minnesota, night game with the dual earlier in the day, new unis, gonna be a TON of energy in Kinnick that night and I think remembering how they smacked us around last year and taking bag the pig, I just see a whitewash that night.
Purdue, they're bad. I mean really bad. Playing at home, I think this is blowout.
@Nebraska This was one of the games Kirk alludes to where we lost it last year. We gave that game away last year and then the Nebraska AD came out and made comments about our football program not being up to snuff and that a win over Iowa simply isn't significant. This game will be to get into the CCG undefeated, and another trophy game. I don't think Nebraska is a particularly talented team, their least talented probably in my lifetime, and I think we will beat them up on the lines.
3 years ago ZERO trophies
2 years ago we took ALL of the trophies
Last year, ZERO trophies
I think this year we take them ALL again. Interesting trend that I hope we break next season.
 
I think Iowa goes undefeated. I think your toughest game is going to be Indiana, but your run game will control the tempo. Nebraska is so all over the place this year. I think we may play you tough, but you'll walk out with a victory. Jealous of your great year. Keep up the intensity. #GBR
 
fair question. for me, there are times when, after we lose, I can objectively look at the matchup and say that, yes, we deserved to lose and we had no real shot to win and it all makes perfect sense...the best team did win. i accept this loss as being fair and measured. However, if Iowa drops a game to the next four it will be due to a major screw-up on our part. we will have given the game away. these are not "evenly matched teams" where it's a toss-up. nor are we underdogs just hoping for a chance in the 4th quarter. we are the favorites and we should win. if we don't, by these terms, it will be UNacceptable. I won't boycott and I won't call for KF to be fired...nothing like that. I simply won't accept that the "better team won." of course, it should be said, that the better teams don't always win, and that's why you play the game, and on any given sunday, and etc etc etc...it's all true. i'm as nervous as anyone right now about Indiana's QB and their history of carving up our secondary and all the rest. But, objectively, we are the better team and we should win. that is all i'm trying to say.

I also agree that I wouldn't be surprised if we did drop a game somewhere down the line. i feel this way mostly due to our history and my bitter feelings towards some of our poor losses that derailed otherwise special seasons. And, to be totally honest, I'm glad you reminded me that this, too, is a special season regardless of what a loss will do to it. that's the truth; this has been a special season and will be regardless. I've become greedy and I want it all, or at least a shot at "it all." it's right there and I feel it would be a sports-tragedy if we didn't TCB and ride into Indianapolis with something even bigger than a conference championship at stake.
Fair enough and I think at the end of the day we're on the same page. I'll be as disappointed as anyone if we drop one of the next 4 (the next 4 weeks will show a lot, but right now I really would not "expect" us to beat OSU in Indy), I just don't expect any of the individual games to be a loss for the Hawks.
 
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