Just imagine if he wrestled HWT. Yikes...
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Just imagine if he wrestled HWT. Yikes...
Do you suppose that's because those guys have 8 more lbs of muscle in them? Remember Clark was at 125 his Freshman year. It's kinda like saying he'd get out muscled at 149. Sure he would. Those guys are just plain bigger than him.
I really wonder if you have cut weight or wrestled up a weight ever. Wrestlers normally move weight because they can't make one anymore or there was someone at their ideal weight on their team they couldn't beat.
I really don't get your argument concerning number of wrestlers? Fact is, the wrestlers at 141 this year aren't the ones that have gotten it done in the past. The higher ranked guys aren't stud young guys either making a name for themselves.
141 is 133 without the top four Imo. I do not know how you argue that a 133er wrestling 141 would get beat to confirm 141 is deep. Here is the thing - weak or deep it is not really going to change anything as far as NCAA goes. On track with the OP 184 is slammed, but I still like Sammy's draw. He can beat Dudley again, just needs to stay smart and get to the championship match. One thing I know for certain is you can not win the Championship if you are not in the match. One match at a time.
How can you say that? Didn't take long for Clark to adjust to moving up to 133 last year as he moved up 3 spots on the podium. He would still be a top 5 finisher and would be contending for a NT in a WEAK weight class like 141.
I am tired of hearing 141 is weak, when its not. I think its because Stieber, Port and Dardanes graduated and you have an influx of young talent that aren't as established. McKenna, Jordan and Chisko are all top 10 recruits and freshmen. Thorn, Zacherl and Bleise are freshmen too. Jack would have been a freshman had he shirted. That's 7 seeded guys from the freshman class. Gullibon was a top recruit and new to the weight. Heil and Ashnault were top end recruits and are both sophomores. I think its a young talented weight and give it time and the cream of the crop will be every good as the 133 group, but much more deep.
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You might be right in 2 years about McKenna, Jordan, Ashnault, and Heil. If they are all still at 141 in 2 years you have the making over a very good weight. Right now, not so much.
174 is also pretty weak, IMO. Brunson is probably the 3rd best guy at that weight and he has never blown me away
Agreed. How much does Mike Evans wish he was a year younger.
There is no way Clark would get outmuscled at 141. Perhaps if he weighed in at 133 and the other at 141, but even then I'd bet on Clark's strength to win the day. He is freaky strong.
Did you see flow analyzed 184? They don't have Brooks in the contenders or the dark horse class and don't even mention him as a threat to AA. Big 10 champ and #2 seed and no mention. Seems odd.
Did you see flow analyzed 184? They don't have Brooks in the contenders or the dark horse class and don't even mention him as a threat to AA. Big 10 champ and #2 seed and no mention. Seems odd.
Nobody from Flo seems to think Brooks will get past the winner of Dudley/Brown. But in Flo's defense Nate Brown has been their favorite 184 for a few years now.
Say if Brooks was to lose that match then he would likely see on of these guy win through on the backside Zavatasky/Zilmer/Renda/Abounader.
Thing Flo doesn't get is Handsome Sammy will just stay on the winners side and face the winner of Stauffer/Miklus in the semi's. I have Willie upsetting Avery if you want to call anything in this weight class an upset. Stauffer beat both Willie and Sammy last NCAA's but he also can lose to a head scratcher.
This weight class is mind-numbing. Just hope Sammy is on.
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Dake sure got outmuscled every year he moved up a weight, what a fool he was!
Very well could be.
But right now, isn't. No doubt there is a lot of potential there but these aren't high level D-1 wrestlers at this point.
McKenna is every bit of the real deal. I think he has the best chance of being the next 4 timer. He's just got to figure out how to finish on Heil before he passes the leg. I think Heil loses in the quarters or semis so I doubt we see it again.
If Dan Neff from Lock Haven does happen to win his first match he will then have to wrestle, Brandon Sorensen from the University of Iowa. Neff will wish he was back down at 141#.
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