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2016 OL Will be Among the Best Under Ferentz

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Before I get going let me just say I have been very critical of the OL group over the past 5 seasons or so as well as OL recruiting and development. I think this years group could be one of the better units that KF has had at Iowa. Now KF has had a lot of really good individual stud linemen in his time but he hasnt had a lot of just all-around great OL lineups that were solid to great all the way down the line from LT to RT. I think this years group though lacking star power will be one of the more solid groups from LT to RT and here is why.

LT- Cole Croston - Last season Cole wasnt your stud LT that Iowa typically has but he was all-around solid. A lot of coaches and writers credit him as an above average run-blocker and a solid pass-blocker that has some limitations. I see a lot of pre-season talk this year of him being 3rd team All-BIG. Cole is a perfect example of a not great but solid all-around LT.

LG- Boone Myers - Many Hawk fans see Myers and get headaches thinking about all the DE's that have blown by him. However Myers rates very well as a run blocker and his pass blocking limitations come from his foot work and athleticism that stems from indirect pass blocking on the edge. Now by moving to guard his limitations of foot work and athleticism can be hidden by a more direct blocking scheme. Also Boone's run blocking style is a perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme at OG. Because OG plays more to his strengths and hides more of his limitations I think he will become a very solid BIG guard.

C - Sean Welsh - Welsh quietly was Iowa's 2nd best linemen last year and it is showing this year as he is finding his name on a lot of preseaon All-BIG lists. This is his year to stand out. He was just solid in all aspects last season.

RG - James Daniels - Next to Myers I think he makes the biggest jump from last year. I can't remember an OL'men at Iowa that looked as polished as him as a TRFR. He had instincts last year that you don't usually see in TRFR linemen. He had some growing pains last season but they were pains that can be corrected after a full season. Many of his pains came from not having a full grasp on the blocking schemes otherwise his technique and skill were there.

RT- Ike Boettger - Honestly I don't know a lot about him because we didnt get a large sample size from him last year. I do remember he was improving each game and learning from his rookie mistakes. With his huge frame and the fact he was showing signs last season of growing at a steady pace I wouldnt be surprised by the end of the season if he rates out as an above avg RT.

Like I said this group lacks true stud/star power but all of these guys have the skill to rate out as above avg in the B1G and I think all of them could by the end of the season rate somewhere in the top 5 at their positions. Kirk hasn't had a lot of OL groups in his time that were solid straight through, typically we have had 1 or 2 true weak spots in the line and sometimes some guys are forced in too early in their careers. This balanced line will help Iowa spread the field more and keep good D's more honest. Because of the lack of star power on the line they will likely rarely get mentioned by the media but I think they will be a top 3 unit in the B1G and a top 25 overall unit nationally.
 
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I will elaborate more on Myers and his foot work. OT's in pass blocking are asked to shift their feet laterally to pick up the DE. When they do this they are blocking unbalanced. Proper foot work technique helps an OT shift from an unbalanced block to a more balanced block where the OT can get more drive/push. Myers struggled with his footwork and had trouble making the switch from unbalanced to balanced and was often pushed right back into the QB because of this. At OG there is much much less of this type of blocking and everything is much more direct where you already have established balance.
 
I'm assuming you are referring to Brian Ferentz.

Well kind of but no. I mean during KF's entire tenure this OL could be one of the more balanced OL's KF has had. This will likely be BF's best OL he has coached.
 
Pass pro has to improve markedly. It should but we'll see. The potential in the running game is cause for some excitement. Love Welsh at center and Boone at guard.

I hope he's right, but I don't see anything in his analysis that makes me confident. Beathard got killed last year. I truly believe that most quarterbacks wouldn't have finished the season with the hits he took. If that happens again this year then nothing else matters. If the O-line isn't above average we'll suck.
 
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I think BM to LG is a huge move and they'll be very stout, again, inside. Tackles have had another season to learn and grow.

Dude who started this is right on. Right on dude.
 
Myers is still considered the #3 OT. One of the primary things that undercut him as a starting OT was continuity at the position. Besides ... he's an explosive guy who could also do really good things for us at OG.

Croston earned the starting spot by putting himself in position to play when Boone went down. He then proceeded to play consistently enough at LT to not merit being moved.

The primary thing to continuing watching for with the '16 OL is to watch for those who emerge as pushing for the #6 spot. Right now it appears that Render is the #6. I'll be curious to see what the level of competition is like. The more people we have poised to be able to legitimately contribute, the better.
 
I hope he's right, but I don't see anything in his analysis that makes me confident. Beathard got killed last year. I truly believe that most quarterbacks wouldn't have finished the season with the hits he took. If that happens again this year then nothing else matters. If the O-line isn't above average we'll suck.

Am I reading this right? Our offensive line sucked last year and we went 12-0, but if the OL isn't above average this year we will suck?
 
Am I reading this right? Our offensive line sucked last year and we went 12-0, but if the OL isn't above average this year we will suck?
Um, Iowa went 12-2 last year. Yes, the pass protection sucked last year in the last few games especially the last 2. Iowa gave up 30 sacks last year good for 67th in the country in sacks per game allowed. 10 of those sacks were in the last 2 games. 14 in 3 games vs Wisky, MSU and Stanford. So against the better defenses no it was not good.
 
Croston is another Iowa "development program" success story. He walked-on at Iowa and IIRC he had no other BCS offers. The only notable mention was as son to former Hawkeye All-American Dave Croston. Cole Croston arrived at Iowa as an OT at 6ft5 and around 225 lbs.- basically LB weight (Nate Meier, same class, was listed at 6ft2, 235 lbs.). 4 years and 75lbs heavier, he is on top of the depth chart as a returning starter.

The thing to remember is that Iowa has the resources and programs to develop and support under-rated prospects but the most important factor is a player dedicated to taking full advantage of those resources and the patience to wait for an opportunity to prove his worth. Croston is one of those guys; great story.
 
Only thing I don't agree with is Myers not being athletic. Well I guess one more thing. The coaches actually said Welsh graded out as their top lineman last year over Blythe.

It will help if they can stay relatively healthy this year. Last year there was just too many guys in and out of the lineup. It also helps Kittle has turned into a really good blocking TE.
 
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Pass blocking had better improve dramatically. last year it was horrible. Run blocking was good for the most part.
 
So Welsh and Daniels have 100% swapped?

Not 100%, but pretty darn close. Welsh spent Spring practice as the #1 center, while Daniels wasn't even practicing. It will be hard for Daniels to take the job away, all he really has left at this point to win the job is August camp.

If we need to shuffle the line around during the season, Welsh is the guy the coaches have confidence to play any position. I could easily see Welsh move to replace an injured guard or tackle while Daniels slides to center.
 
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Anyone else worried James Daniels could hit a Sophomore slump, especially since he missed spring ball? I remember King had somewhat of a Sophomore slump after playing quite a bit as a Freshman. I think if Daniels takes his play to the next level this line could be good. Regardless, I think most people are worried about the tackles.
 
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Anyone else worried James Daniels could hit a Sophomore slump, especially since he missed spring ball? I remember King had somewhat of a Sophomore slump after playing quite a bit as a Freshman. I think if Daniels takes his play to the next level this line could be good, but I think most peoples worries are with the tackles.

Not really sophomore slump, just a natural progression for guys who play early. Daniels is talented and works hard. That's a great combination. If Daniels is healthy, he will be fine. In the case of a guy like King, it was natural that he struggled some as a sophomore as there was film on him and he wasn't surprising anyone. I personally didn't think King played poorly as a sophomore, but obviously as a junior he took it to another level.

If the 5 starters are healthy, this Iowa OL will be very good. All 5 guys have played before and they have a good QB and running backs behind them.
 
Anyone else worried James Daniels could hit a Sophomore slump, especially since he missed spring ball? I remember King had somewhat of a Sophomore slump after playing quite a bit as a Freshman. I think if Daniels takes his play to the next level this line could be good. Regardless, I think most people are worried about the tackles.
Sophomore slumps are a pretty rare occurrence with Iowa's TEs and OL. Usually, if a guy who shows great promise doesn't perform ... it's usually attributable to injuries. Here's to hoping that Daniels and the other guys on the OL can remain (relatively) healthy!
 
Um, Iowa went 12-2 last year. Yes, the pass protection sucked last year in the last few games especially the last 2. Iowa gave up 30 sacks last year good for 67th in the country in sacks per game allowed. 10 of those sacks were in the last 2 games. 14 in 3 games vs Wisky, MSU and Stanford. So against the better defenses no it was not good.

So I did read that right. We sucked last year. 12-2 sucks in your book. You have high standards. I'm happy with mediocrity.
 
Before I get going let me just say I have been very critical of the OL group over the past 5 seasons or so as well as OL recruiting and development. I think this years group could be one of the better units that KF has had at Iowa. Now KF has had a lot of really good individual stud linemen in his time but he hasnt had a lot of just all-around great OL lineups that were solid to great all the way down the line from LT to RT. I think this years group though lacking star power will be one of the more solid groups from LT to RT and here is why.

I fail to see how the '16 OL will be lacking "star" power. It's usually a sign that a guy is an elite talent if he manages to play a lot as a redshirt freshman. Welsh not only played a lot as a redshirt freshman, he started quite a bit. Daniels played a lot and started some in '15 and he was a true freshman! The issue with Iowa's "star power" on the OL isn't whether it exists ... but rather, it related more to how veteran the guys were. Welsh could prove to be a veteran star for us in '16 - and he's only going to be a JR!

It's also worth remarking that Brian Ferentz has been very effusive about how well Myers and Boettger approached things, even so early in their careers - that suggests that they're more than solid too.
 
Am I reading this right? Our offensive line sucked last year and we went 12-0, but if the OL isn't above average this year we will suck?

Last year the pass blocking was below average. The hit that CJ took in the Rose Bowl was vicious. I was surprised to see him get up. The run blocking was pretty to very good last season. 3 - 195+ yard rushers is unheard of. Put the pass and run blocking together and they had a pretty average year. If they can improve the pass blocking and replicate last years run blocking this could be a very good unit as the OP stated.

Croston is another Iowa "development program" success story. He walked-on at Iowa and IIRC he had no other BCS offers. The only notable mention was as son to former Hawkeye All-American Dave Croston. Cole Croston arrived at Iowa as an OT at 6ft5 and around 225 lbs.- basically LB weight (Nate Meier, same class, was listed at 6ft2, 235 lbs.). 4 years and 75lbs heavier, he is on top of the depth chart as a returning starter.

The thing to remember is that Iowa has the resources and programs to develop and support under-rated prospects but the most important factor is a player dedicated to taking full advantage of those resources and the patience to wait for an opportunity to prove his worth. Croston is one of those guys; great story.

I saw Croston in Sergeant Bluff at a basketball game over Christmas break his true frosh season and thought to myself that if this kid ever plays OL at Iowa we're going to be in trouble. He has obviously put in lot of work to get from where he was to where he is today. If you look at the LTs at Iowa the last 15+ years he is in some rare company.
 
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Pass blocking had better improve dramatically. last year it was horrible. Run blocking was good for the most part.
Agreed. CJ needs a little more time to survey the field and find the open guy. Last year he was not always getting that time and we missed some opportunities. I believe the OL will play better and we will have some added depth.
 
Last year the pass blocking was below average. The hit that CJ took in the Rose Bowl was vicious. I was surprised to see him get up. The run blocking was pretty to very good last season. 3 - 195+ yard rushers is unheard of. Put the pass and run blocking together and they had a pretty average year. If they can improve the pass blocking and replicate last years run blocking this could be a very good unit as the OP stated.

In '15, the run blocking was pretty decent. We were particularly strong with the inside zone. The blocking by the TEs, FBs, and WRs was well above average. Perhaps due to having more inexperienced OTs - the outside zone wasn't as effective in '15.

Due to our strength on the interior - Brian Ferentz added some newer wrinkles to the run game last year.

I'll be curious to see what new gets implemented in '16.
 
Am I reading this right? Our offensive line sucked last year and we went 12-0, but if the OL isn't above average this year we will suck?

Ask the Northwestern defense if our Offensive line sucked last year ?? LOL.....We ran over them like a Jr high team...and supposedly their defensive was pretty good.

I'm not sure if this line will be Best ever, because the Captain has had some very good ones, but they will be Very good, in my humble opinion.
 
I hope he's right, but I don't see anything in his analysis that makes me confident. Beathard got killed last year. I truly believe that most quarterbacks wouldn't have finished the season with the hits he took. If that happens again this year then nothing else matters. If the O-line isn't above average we'll suck.
So what was the OL like last year?
 
Sorry, but Iowa's Oline has been vastly overrated over the last several years. Last year their running game started to perform, but it has been very blah for many years despite having many guys go on to the NFL. I don't have a very optimistic feeling other than feeling it will be very similar to previous seasons
 
Pass protection at tackle was very poor last year. Significantly below Iowa average tackle play.

It's very possible they will be better; actually, I expect it.

But to say "among the best OL" of the Ferentz era they will have to have TREMENDOUS improvement at tackle. Maybe the most ever of the Ferentz era ;)
 
Pass protection at tackle was very poor last year. Significantly below Iowa average tackle play.

It's very possible they will be better; actually, I expect it.

But to say "among the best OL" of the Ferentz era they will have to have TREMENDOUS improvement at tackle. Maybe the most ever of the Ferentz era ;)

While the original contention might be a slight exaggeration, it is not unlikely that the OTs could and will make such improvements. For example, just look at the improved OT play that we saw from '07 to '08.

I'm not certain if there are quite enough career starts among the group to be a dominating unit ... they could prove to be impressive as they develop throughout the year. I actually forecast that next year (2017) will likely be one of the highest water marks for Iowa's OL in quite some time. We should have an excellent group of RBs then too ... to bad we'll be having a new starter at QB.
 
Unless we have a cure for the delayed blitzing that Stanford put on us it could be a long year. Every opponent will watch that tape.
 
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