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I'm claiming the following: (top 10)

1. Chuck Grassley
2. Madonna
3. Cher
4. Tom Selleck
5. George Wendt
6. Tom Davis
7. Selena Gomez
8. Putin
9. Turtle face
10. Tim Dwight
 
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*The worst Kevin as decided by HORT

This could be interesting....

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I hated having to read about his past because I respected him as an actor. Seems like he should have been Weinstein crowd.
To be honest, I didn't pay much attention. I did notice that he was acquitted in the UK, but I doubt anyone believes he was squeaky clean.

The thing that bothers me about his crimes is that I object to applying the term "child" to people who are nearly adults and are almost certainly knowledgeable and at least significantly complicit/consensual.

I had a similar debate with a liberal friend not long ago about Gaetz - before more details came out - because she seemed incapable of distinguishing between a 9-year-old being sexually abused vs a 17-year-old who was at one of "those kinds" of parties and hooked up with Gaetz. She couldn't see past "they're both below the legal age." I believe we need to think things through better than that. It's like when friends having sex after drinking too much and now one of them regrets it - that's is not the same as violent rape.
 
To be honest, I didn't pay much attention. I did notice that he was acquitted in the UK, but I doubt anyone believes he was squeaky clean.

The thing that bothers me about his crimes is that I object to applying the term "child" to people who are nearly adults and are almost certainly knowledgeable and at least significantly complicit/consensual.

I had a similar debate with a liberal friend not long ago about Gaetz - before more details came out - because she seemed incapable of distinguishing between a 9-year-old being sexually abused vs a 17-year-old who was at one of "those kinds" of parties and hooked up with Gaetz. She couldn't see past "they're both below the legal age." I believe we need to think things through better than that. It's like when friends having sex after drinking too much and now one of them regrets it - that's is not the same as violent rape.

Either have the law or don't. It is simple as that. If you don't like the law, change it. But trying to distinguish is disingenuous
 
Either have the law or don't. It is simple as that. If you don't like the law, change it. But trying to distinguish is disingenuous
I understand the attitude but this is exactly the hobgoblin view that I object to. Reality is way more nuanced and we are misserved by knee-jerk, authoritarian inflexibility.

A worldly 17-year-old is not the same as a 9-year old. Or do you think they are?

When did you first think you were an adult? Did some switch get flipped when you turned 18?

I just started watching The Jetty. Worth checking out if you have access to Britbox (or money to spare). I think it may deal with issues like this. Jenna Coleman plays a UK cop who got knocked up when she was 16, leading to a happy marriage. But she is now investigating a possible serial predator who seduces people that age, and is beginning to look at her own story in a different light.
 
I understand the attitude but this is exactly the hobgoblin view that I object to. Reality is way more nuanced and we are misserved by knee-jerk, authoritarian inflexibility.

A worldly 17-year-old is not the same as a 9-year old. Or do you think they are?

When did you first think you were an adult? Did some switch get flipped when you turned 18?

I just started watching The Jetty. Worth checking out if you have access to Britbox (or money to spare). I think it may deal with issues like this. Jenna Coleman plays a UK cop who got knocked up when she was 16, leading to a happy marriage. But she is now investigating a possible serial predator who seduces people that age, and is beginning to look at her own story in a different light.
A worldly 17-year-old is not the same as a 9-year old. Or do you think they are?

Of course not. But why have a law on the books if you are not going to enforce it. I know you are not supporting Gaetz
 
To be honest, I didn't pay much attention. I did notice that he was acquitted in the UK, but I doubt anyone believes he was squeaky clean.

The thing that bothers me about his crimes is that I object to applying the term "child" to people who are nearly adults and are almost certainly knowledgeable and at least significantly complicit/consensual.
Assuming you’re talking about Spacey here, one of his accusers was 14 at the time of the alleged incident. That’s still a fair distance away from adulthood.
 
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In addition to Randy Moss as I posted earlier.

Jerry Kill
Charlie Weiss
Alice Cooper
Anderson Cooper
Chuck Grassley
Mitchell McConnell
Eddie Murphy
Bert Kriesher
Lou Holtz
Walt Frazier
Sia

Peyton Sandfort's shot
Random guy walking in front of Jack McCaffrey
 
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