Clearly we need better pool and spa regulations. Think of the children.
http://www.poolsafely.gov/drowning-deaths-injuries/
http://www.poolsafely.gov/drowning-deaths-injuries/
390 kids killed each year by swimming pools and spas
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I bet the least of these drownings are black females. They HATE HATE HATE getting their hair wet.
332 kids under the age of 2 have died from cords on blinds. Ban blinds and sue blind companies!!!!
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Or parents could just not be dumb F's and leave their kids around unlocked guns and unsupervised pools.
They were probably hit by gun fire before they fell in the water.
I assume this is supposed to be a counter post in response the guns and children post. Tain't funny. And I say, babies and tots were killed by getting caught between the side slats on cribs. Regulations now say that the slats must be close enough so that the babies can't get their heads between them.
Pool regulations are continually updated in an attempt to reduce deaths like those. So...I don't think you've made the point you think you have.
They'll regulate my pool after they pry my cold dead hands from the hand rail.
I am constantly pushing for a legal solution to poor parenting greater than what we have today.
No one ever seems to want to go with me on that.
They already regulate your pool. Ignore those regs as you wish. My 2 year-old nephew drowned in his aunt's pool...pulled out blue...no heartbeat. I was the one who got to do CPR on him thinking the whole time that if he died it was my fault. Got him breathing again after maybe two minutes that felt like two hours. First responders got there a few minutes later and took him...I crawled off and cried like a baby. Nightmares for years about that.
Their gate wasn't up to code and he had figured out how to open it from the outside. He's a junior in high school now and has no memory of it.
Whoa take it easy there common sense boy. Are you saying people should take responsibility for themselves!? Ludicrous
Absolutely Ludicrus
This thread reminded me of this Daily Show clip regarding doctors not being allowed to discuss gun control with patients.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/hm7dcy/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-g-word
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/hm7dcy/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-g-word
I don't think he does. A pool is not designed to be fatal when used properly. A gun does kill when properly used. Imagine if guns were regulated as tightly as pools are.
Yep. Public pools are registered with the state, licensed, inspected, accidents must be reported, regulations are reviewed and revised routinely to improve safety.
Guns...not so much.
Guns...not so much.
The only things my guns have ever killed are clay pigeons and paper targets. I guess I'm not using them properly.
I don't know what's worse, a post this dumb, or idiot Ciggy liking all of them.
Anyone who really thinks guns are less regulated than pools shouldn't go near either. Do yourself a favor and get yourself copies of the state and federal gun regulation books and study up before making further comments. Each are hundreds of pages long so it will take to awhile.
What a horrible thing to have to experience. Glad the situation had a happy ending
You aren't because guns were meant to kill, period. You can't make some weak argument (that's probably a lie as I'm sure it's killed animals at least) about what you do personally and apply it to the whole country.
Again, guns were made to kill. That's why bad guys love them so much.
Pffft. Pools have all kinds of regulations as to how they are used. Cities or counties have say over how you build them, even on private property. If it's for public use it is periodically inspected.
The NRA wants you to have no restrictions on what kinds of guns you can own or use, they want you to be able to wander down the middle of the street with an AK over your shoulder and a Glock strapped to your hip. A pool at least has to have a fence around it.
First, it's not a lie. I'm not a hunter, so my guns have never been used to kill any animals. I have a 12 gauge shotgun for skeet shooting and a .22-cal rifle for target practice. Never killed anything with either of them.
Second, you don't know very much about guns, do you? Guns are made for more than just killing. Some guns are made for target practice and will never be used to kill anything. Some guns are made for home defense and hopefully will never need to be used. Sometimes a gun just needs to be seen or heard to be effective. The sound of a pump action shotgun being loaded often will scare off a home intruder without having to fire a single shot.
Many guns are never used to kill anything and the vast majority of guns are never used to kill a person. If that wasn't true then there wouldn't be very many people left in this country.
You own a pool? If you do Trad, you understand there are regulations in place....Plus...there are INSURANCE COMPANIES!
I'm surprised there are this few deaths annually....and about all of those deaths can be attributed to some amount of parental neglect/stupidity.
Sounds like the parents don't watch their 2 year old like they should.
Glad the child made it but clearly the parents were negligent in watching their child.
and the property owners whose gate was "not up to code"????? Come on Ned...I think you're just being intentionally obtuse here.....
If you own an "attractive nuisance" you have an obligation to make it as safe from uninvited guests as possible. 6' privacy fences and gates with lock mechanisms are pretty standard pieces of equipment for pools. Ask any insurance company......Owners have an obligation to make sure these barriers are workable ALL the time. I spend a good part of a day a year making sure mine are working as designed.
For some people that's the point. For others, like myself, the point is recreation. I enjoy target shooting for sport and it has absolutely nothing to do with preparing to hunt. My daughters enjoy shooting with me and they've never hunted. I would be surprised if they ever do. My father owns several guns and we often go target shooting together. I don't recall him ever hunting in my lifetime. If he ever did, it was probably close to 50 years ago.
I'm quite certain we're not the only ones who shoot simply for the enjoyment of shooting. And I'm not lying to myself about anything. You'll just have to get used to the fact that not everyone does things for the same reason you do them.
Guns have many purposes. Killing certainly is one of them, but it's not the only one. Even in a hostile situation not every shot is intended to be a kill shot. Ever hear of a warning shot? Sometimes you shoot a person with intent to stop or incapacitate them without actually killing them. Sometimes you simply have to project strength in order to achieve the desired outcome.
And sometimes you just enjoy shooting clay pigeons because it's cathartic.
And so do we but a 2 year old should never ever be unescorted in an environment where a pool or spa comes into play.
2 year olds play in the back yard..unattended......2 year olds are curious and like to explore. 2 year olds don't always tell mom or dad where they are going, they just go. A gate that locks correctly would probably stop most two year olds. Hell, mine stops 42 year olds.
In a backyard that's enclosed and "safe", all the time. For extended periods of time..probably not. My situation now is different because I have a swimming pool.
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That must be why males made up most of those deaths the females have built in flotation devices.
Anyone else notice the stat that an African-American is 5.5 times more likely to die in a pool or spa accident. It kinda brings the stereotype of African_Amercians not liking to swim to light.
What's your definition of an "extended period of time"? Two-year-olds put almost everything they can grab into their mouths. You leave a two-year-old outside unattended for anything more than a few seconds and you're tempting fate. Even in an enclosed and "safe" yard. They could choke on a rock in less time than it takes you to grab a beer out of the fridge.
If I had a two year old, I would be willing to bet my paycheck that my child would never, ever leave the house unless I was with them 100% of the time, every time. I'd make sure Houdini himself couldn't somehow get out.
Just a single child of a high ranking politician died in a hot tub and it resulted in a law change that required every pool and spa in the country to buy and install new drain covers. So, it's pretty safe to safe this was a terrible analogy and that ironically pools and spas receive more oversight than guns do.
http://www.poolsafely.gov/pool-spa-safety-act/virginia-graeme-baker/
http://www.poolsafely.gov/pool-spa-safety-act/virginia-graeme-baker/
