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7 U.S. Marshals arrest a 48 y.o. man over a 30 year old student loan of

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(ANTIMEDIA) Houston, Texas — A Houston man was arrested last Thursday over outstanding federal student loan debt left over from nearly three decades ago. Though he owed only $1,500, seven U.S. Marshals wearing combat gear and wielding automatic weapons aggressively arrested him — and authorities have said they will serve many more arrest warrants for outstanding educational bills in the near future.

“They grabbed me, they threw me down, 48-year-old Paul Aker told the New York Daily News on Tuesday.“Local PD is just standing there.

Aker obtained the loan to attend Prairie View A&M University in 1987, and was unaware that he still owed the government money. He says he received no prior notification before the arrest was made, but on Thursday morning, saw a suspicious truck parked outside his home. Aker says when someone approached him, he ran into his residence. Later that morning, the U.S. Marshals approached, initially refusing to tell him why they were there.

“I say, ‘What is this all about?’” Aker told the Daily News. “They say, ‘Shut up, you know what this is all about.’ I don’t have a clue.” He says that when he continued to ask questions, he was told, “you know what this is all about.

Eventually, the Marshals informed him their visit was a result of his 30-year-old debt. “You could have sent me a letter. You could have called me,”Aker reportedly said.

He says he was ordered into the back of a truck and taken to a cell at a federal facility in downtown Houston. He was later taken to court, where he dealt with a judge, a county clerk, and a prosecutor, and says he was never read his rights. Further, Aker says the prosecutor actually turned out to be a collections lawyer. According to his account, the judge felt obliged to teach him a lesson.

“Then I get a lecture (from the judge) about the United States and stealing from the government, he recounted. He was ordered to pay $5,700, including interest, for the original $1,500 loan. If he does not pay by March 1, he will be arrested again. He is also ordered to pay for the cost of his own arrest.

Whether it is newly-acquired or decades-old, student loan debt has been a pressing issue in the United States for years. As the costs of college have soared, graduates have been dismayed to find few job opportunities, and therefore, left with few resources to repay their loans. Student loan debt in America totals over $1 trillion, surpassing credit card debt and prompting politicians, including President Obama, to propose countless solutions. The average student loan debt sum for 2015 college graduates is over $35,000.

According to local news Fox 26, U.S. Marshals intend to serve between 1,200 and 1,500 more arrest warrants to individuals who have not repaid their debt. Texas Representative Gene Green, a Democrat, told Fox the crackdown is a result of the government’s recent decision to hire private debt collectors to resolve borrowers’ outstanding fees. These collectors “are getting judgements in federal court and asking judges to use the US Marshals Service to arrest those who have failed to pay their federal student loans.


While it is not unreasonable to assume a borrower will eventually pay back funds, it is questionable whether authorities really needed the show of force they used against Aker, especially when he received no prior notification of his bills. Americans are increasingly skeptical of heavily-armed law enforcement officers, whether they are policing protests or waging narcotics raids. That this warrior mentality is apparently now being applied to debtors over relatively small sums of cash provides further cause for concern.

“There’s bound to be a better way to collect on a student loan debt that is so old, Green observed.

Aker expressed anxiety over the way he was notified of his obligations.“I am still shaken, Aker told the Daily News. “I had to go to work yesterday, and it was hard to drive to work, for the fear of someone coming. I am looking out the window and I have things to do today, and I am still afraid to go outside.”

http://theantimedia.org/us-marshals-forcefully-arrest-man-over-1500-in-student-loan-debt/
 
Sounds like that is a department in need of some serious funding cuts. I just figured out how to pay for free college. Fire the US Marshals.
 
The network news version seemed a bit different with the poor guy admitting he had been given repeated notices about the old debt. Wonder why they just didn't put a lien on his car or home since the government has that ability.
Student Loan Debt, if it is private, will not even go away if the person dies - any co-signers of the original loan are still liable for the debt and the interest on it. Also, this is one of the few things you cannot wipe away with a bankruptcy.
 
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Sounds like that is a department in need of some serious funding cuts. I just figured out how to pay for free college. Fire the US Marshals.
And cut funding to the program that discovered "gravitational waves" exist. I'm only assuming there's federal money tied up in that. Unless of course they can articulate "why" that matters instead of just telling us it does matter. the equipment in those facilities could have put thousands of kids through college.
 
They tried contacting this guy for three years and even taped letters to his door. He admits only getting one post card and ignored it. After three years they go to his door again and he yells he's not coming out and that he has a gun. They retreat and come back with Marshals because of the gun threat. Little different out look on the situation when you hear all the details.
 
This idiot was given several written notices and had phone conversations about the debt. They showed his house on the Today show this morning. He should be able to easily pay off the $5,700. They should throw his dumb a** in jail for a while just for being stupid. People like him piss me off.
 
They tried contacting this guy for three years and even taped letters to his door. He admits only getting one post card and ignored it. After three years they go to his door again and he yells he's not coming out and that he has a gun. They retreat and come back with Marshals because of the gun threat. Little different out look on the situation when you hear all the details.

Hearing this makes me worry that all of Nat's previously threads also left out pertinent details. I will now have to view his stories with a skeptical eye.
 
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This is literally impossible for 30+% of student loan borrowers
This guy should be more than capable of paying off his $5,700 loan by looking at the lifestyle he is living.

As far as the 30% number you pulled out of thin air, in today's world it is no one's fault but your own if you get in over your head. Racking up tens and some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt is irresponsible. There are plenty of options to get you thru college with minimal debt if your parents weren't responsible enough to plan for your future. Community College is cheap. You should be able to get a 2 year degree with zero debt. Make sure your CC classes are going to transfer to your state school of choice. By working full time during the summers and working part time while school is in session, you can pay for all of your living expenses and a portion of your tuition. If you decide to go to a private college and pay full price you are an idiot.

When I was processing mortgages I had a couple that had a combined debt to a small private college of $180,000. Both got degrees that were not going to yield high paying jobs. I think he was a teacher so he was going to have a decent paying job but her degree was basically worthless. They both made bad life choices.
 
This guy should be more than capable of paying off his $5,700 loan by looking at the lifestyle he is living.

As far as the 30% number you pulled out of thin air, in today's world it is no one's fault but your own if you get in over your head. Racking up tens and some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt is irresponsible. There are plenty of options to get you thru college with minimal debt if your parents weren't responsible enough to plan for your future. Community College is cheap. You should be able to get a 2 year degree with zero debt. Make sure your CC classes are going to transfer to your state school of choice. By working full time during the summers and working part time while school is in session, you can pay for all of your living expenses and a portion of your tuition. If you decide to go to a private college and pay full price you are an idiot.

When I was processing mortgages I had a couple that had a combined debt to a small private college of $180,000. Both got degrees that were not going to yield high paying jobs. I think he was a teacher so he was going to have a decent paying job but her degree was basically worthless. They both made bad life choices.

The delinquency rate is 27.3% per the St Louis Fed, which is almost assuredly on the low end since delinquency rates are not required to be reported by creditors

I agree that the guy should have been able to pay off $5700 over 30 years, but it doesn't change the fact that almost any other debt would have been written off by now and disappeared from his credit history. Life decisions factor into every debt - a car, a mortgage, credit card, etc. We're making a terrible mistake to prioritize student loan debt by making it non-dischargeable in almost every case
 
"He was later taken to court, where he dealt with a judge, a county clerk, and a prosecutor, and says he was never read his rights"

You only have to be read your rights (and even then its iffy) before an interrogation. It's amazing how many people don't understand this.
 
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And cut funding to the program that discovered "gravitational waves" exist. I'm only assuming there's federal money tied up in that. Unless of course they can articulate "why" that matters instead of just telling us it does matter. the equipment in those facilities could have put thousands of kids through college.

Scientific research almost always pays for itself many times over. And the type that often ends up with the home run is the type that you never envisioned panning out. But the one you sight fundamentally changes the way we understand the physical makeup of matter. You have a steep hill to climb if you want to convince me that science should be cut for education. That's a real robbing from Peter to pay Paul scenario.

http://stuver.blogspot.com/2012/06/q-how-can-gravitational-waves-help.html
 
Scientific research almost always pays for itself many times over. And the type that often ends up with the home run is the type that you never envisioned panning out. But the one you sight fundamentally changes the way we understand the physical makeup of matter. You have a steep hill to climb if you want to convince me that science should be cut for education. That's a real robbing from Peter to pay Paul scenario.

http://stuver.blogspot.com/2012/06/q-how-can-gravitational-waves-help.html
I would never cut science in education, however, of all the articles I've read about 'gravitational waves,' I've seen lots of very expensive equipment, and not a single article that explains what the benefit is. I see things like "it changes everything about how we understand the universe" and "it's the missing link in einstein's theory" but I want to know WHY it matters. Does it mean we can make space vehicles travel at the speed of light? That would be cool, or does it mean we found aliens? That would be cool too. As is, it seems it just means that if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody's around to hear it, it does in fact still make noise! I just want to see an article that explains why it matters, and doesn't just tell me that it matters.
 
He says he received no prior notification before the arrest was made
If true, this bothers me even more than the excessive use of force.

Using an absurd amount of force to collect a debt is what we expect of the Mafia, not our government.

Using ANY amount of force to collect a debt should be several notches down a list of steps that would logically start with a bill, or a bill and an invitation to contact the office to arrange payment.

Apparently there are plenty of people who owe student loan money and aren't paying. If I were one of those, I would expect to be contacted in a civil manner before anything even remotely like this would happen.
 
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Certainly. I welcome it. Everything should be questioned. I'm not married to a party. I change my mind all the time as I gather new info.
This is sound logic also, as everything can and will change. The ability to adapt and to listen anew is not to be looked down upon.
 
Because people like yourself exist in this world. Wasn't that obvious?
I'm the reason I should feel I'm not black? I'll need some clarification of this statement. You're clearly confused, or trying to be a bully. You'd have better luck winning the lottery on the 8th day of the week.
 
I would never cut science in education, however, of all the articles I've read about 'gravitational waves,' I've seen lots of very expensive equipment, and not a single article that explains what the benefit is. I see things like "it changes everything about how we understand the universe" and "it's the missing link in einstein's theory" but I want to know WHY it matters. Does it mean we can make space vehicles travel at the speed of light? That would be cool, or does it mean we found aliens? That would be cool too. As is, it seems it just means that if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody's around to hear it, it does in fact still make noise! I just want to see an article that explains why it matters, and doesn't just tell me that it matters.
I linked you one that went into 2 industrial spinoffs already, and it only just happened. We use The theory of relativity every day. This is on that order.
 
I'm the reason I should feel I'm not black? I'll need some clarification of this statement

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If true, this bothers me even more than the excessive use of force.

Using an absurd amount of force to collect a debt is what we expect of the Mafia, not our government.

Using ANY amount of force to collect a debt should be several notches down a list of steps that would logically start with a bill, or a bill and an invitation to contact the office to arrange payment.

Apparently there are plenty of people who owe student loan money and aren't paying. If I were one of those, I would expect to be contacted in a civil manner before anything even remotely like this would happen.
It's not true. He had multiple notices and was well aware of the debt. He is also aware that if he continues to not pay he will be arrested again.
 
It's not true. He had multiple notices and was well aware of the debt. He is also aware that if he continues to not pay he will be arrested again.
But isn't that crap? I bet it cost more than $1500 to organize this arrest with 7 officers. We need a sensible republican solution here. Contract this out to a private debt collection agency. The government gets paid something and spends no effort or cost for the taxpayer. Private industry gets to work its magic. The guy doesn't get arrested and lose his job. Or put a tax lien or wage garnishment on him. Lots of smart small government solutions for this problem.
 
Dancing around the question, because you don't know how to answer it, without revealing your real take on black people?

I just can't believe I have to explain it.

BE THANKFUL THAT YOU AREN'T COLORED BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD LIKE YOURSELF. THEY TRY TO UNDERMINE HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE FOR COLORED PEOPLE TO GET AHEAD IN THEIR LIFE. THEY ASSUME BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS HANDED TO THEM SINCE BIRTH THAT'S HOW IT IS FOR EVERYONE.

JFC. The way you classify yourself being "smarter" than everyone else on this board you sure need things explained to you more often than not.
 
I just can't believe I have to explain it.

BE THANKFUL THAT YOU AREN'T COLORED BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD LIKE YOURSELF. THEY TRY TO UNDERMINE HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE FOR COLORED PEOPLE TO GET AHEAD IN THEIR LIFE. THEY ASSUME BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS HANDED TO THEM SINCE BIRTH THAT'S HOW IT IS FOR EVERYONE.

JFC. The way you classify yourself being "smarter" than everyone else on this board you sure need things explained to you more often than not.
So translated from pussy terms to what you're really saying. Black people are inferior to white people, because the white man purposely holds them down, and I should be glad that I don't have black skin, or else otherwise I'd be held down by white people such as myself?

Quick notes version: White people are just more privileged than black people, which in turn means you seem them as inferior? I think you're the real racist here.

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But isn't that crap? I bet it cost more than $1500 to organize this arrest with 7 officers. We need a sensible republican solution here. Contract this out to a private debt collection agency. The government gets paid something and spends no effort or cost for the taxpayer. Private industry gets to work its magic. The guy doesn't get arrested and lose his job. Or put a tax lien or wage garnishment on him. Lots of smart small government solutions for this problem.
I think this guy is a POS and gets what he deserves. I'd arrest him, make him serve some jail time and make him pay for all of the expenses of the arrest, court fees and jail costs in addition to paying back the $5,700. It isn't like he can't pay the loan back. He is choosing not to and hasn't made any attempt to work towards paying it off. Then he lies to the media about 'not knowing' and crying poor me.

But generally, yes, I agree with you that the government should just garnish tax returns and/or wages in order to recoup things like this. Honest question: How would a private company have any more success getting him to repay? What avenues do they have to recoup the funds?
 
I think this guy is a POS and gets what he deserves. I'd arrest him, make him serve some jail time and make him pay for all of the expenses of the arrest, court fees and jail costs in addition to paying back the $5,700. It isn't like he can't pay the loan back. He is choosing not to and hasn't made any attempt to work towards paying it off. Then he lies to the media about 'not knowing' and crying poor me.

But generally, yes, I agree with you that the government should just garnish tax returns and/or wages in order to recoup things like this. Honest question: How would a private company have any more success getting him to repay? What avenues do they have to recoup the funds?
I would have no idea why a private company would be better. But many hold to that belief like religion that private industry is magically better at all things. Debt collecting isn't a topic I'm terribly familiar with.
 
But isn't that crap? I bet it cost more than $1500 to organize this arrest with 7 officers. We need a sensible republican solution here. Contract this out to a private debt collection agency. The government gets paid something and spends no effort or cost for the taxpayer. Private industry gets to work its magic. The guy doesn't get arrested and lose his job. Or put a tax lien or wage garnishment on him. Lots of smart small government solutions for this problem.
I think the reason 7 US Marshals were there is because of what was posted above....How many officers were originally sent? Maybe if the guy hadn't refused to pay his debt AND hadn't threatened law enforcement with a gun....the "cost" of this individual scenario would be a limited issue.
 
So translated from pussy terms to what you're really saying. Black people are inferior to white people, because the white man purposely holds them down, and I should be glad that I don't have black skin, or else otherwise I'd be held down by white people such as myself?

Quick notes version: White people are just more privileged than black people, which in turn means you seem them as inferior? I think you're the real racist here.

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That's some sound logic right there.
 
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