Alabama's leading scorer brought gun to Teammate who then used it to commit Murder

[Franisdaman]

I want to know if he took his buddies back to their apartment after the shooting, in effect, being the getaway car, or, since he caught 2 bullets in his windshield, did he just simply go to Safelite?

What Alabama is doing is just so wrong, but I'm not surprised at all. Miller's attorney refutes the claim that he took the gun to Miles since the gun was "hidden" in Miller's back seat and he just drove to the crime scene to meet his buddies. Give me a break.

I keep coming back to the fact that there were 3 Bama players at the crime scene. Only 1 of them is ineligible to play (because he's in jail).

Why was Miller driving around with a loaded gun in his car? That's against the student code of conduct, for starters. Ignorance of the student code of conduct is not a defense.

And was the gun legally owned by the now ex-player & now charged with murder, Darius Miles?

Who else on the Bama team possesses guns, which again, is against the student code of conduct???

 

[kceasthawk]

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Never thought much of Smith and this does nothing to change that opinion..

 

[uihawk82]

Did Miller lawfully own the gun?

I read that one of the other guys owned the gun. Still stupid for Miller to transport a gun that does not belong to him. Just stupid and stupider.

 

[uihawk82]

Thanks for the info because I didn't see any of that explained in the written piece and video. My question is that if Miller is in possession of an unregistered gun how in the world can the police say there is nothing to charge him with?

Exactly, I doubt that it is legal for someone in Bama to transport or carry a gun around in the public. Probably a misdemeanor first offense

 

[uihawk82]

Thats what happens when you grow up in despair with no positive male role models or mentors.

Do we know how they grew up? I dont. All I know is that the two murderers must not have learned to be nice people and to control themselves instead of being angry and impulsive.

 

[shanksit44]

Never thought much of Smith and this does nothing to change that opinion..

Problem is there are people that have the 🎥 , 🎤 and soap box to share their opinions nation wide and morons that actually agree with it. This should not go sideways but it has all the makings of doing just that.

Can not imagine what the victims family is going through because of this.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

One day after a police investigator alleged Alabama basketball freshman Brandon Miller brought his then-teammate Darius Miles the gun that was used in a Jan. 15 fatal shooting of a 23-year-old woman, Miller’s attorney issued a statement refuting the report.

“Brandon never got out of his vehicle or interacted with anyone in Ms. Harris’ party,” Jim Standridge said Wednesday. “He was never involved in a verbal altercation with Cedric Johnson or Mr. Davis. Brandon never touched the gun, was not involved in its exchange to Mr. Davis in any way, and never knew that illegal activity involving the gun would occur.”

Are you kidding me. He is asked to bring the gun to a contentious encounter. How could anything but bad and illegal occur? Without the gun, no one gets shot. If they can't charge him for supplying the gun , how can a bartender ever be charged for supplying the alcohol?

Here's how it works: bartender supplies alcohol to anybody who commits DUI-manslaughter/homicide=throw book at bartender. If same bartender supplies alcohol to star player who does same thing=victim is at fault.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

Here's how it works: bartender supplies alcohol to anybody who commits DUI-manslaughter/homicide=throw book at bartender. If same bartender supplies alcohol to star player who does same thing=victim is at fault.

Take 'that' and place directly in nutshell.

 

[herkyhawk00]

Yep. She wants nothing to do with him or his teammates so he kills her because of it. What is wrong with people?

You can take kids out of a “thug life” environment, but it is harder to take the “thug life” out of the individual.

 

[obfuscating]

Brandon Miller averages 18.7 pts and 8 rebounds.

Alabama is a projected #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

Direct link to story:

Darius Miles asked Brandon Miller to bring gun used to kill Jamea Jonae Harris, police testify

Miller, an Alabama basketball player, was not charged. Tuscaloosa chief deputy D.A. Paula Whitley said, “There’s nothing we could charge him with."

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SEC gonna SEC.

Seriously though, why do folks with all that talent choose to be stupid?

 

[shanksit44]

SEC gonna SEC.

Seriously though, why do folks with all that talent choose to be stupid?

My guess, it isn’t a choice.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Franisdaman]

The victim's parents question why Brandon Miller is allowed to continue to play

 

[Bishop1971]

There is no way he's not culpable in some way. I guarantee that if these weren't basketball players they would all be arrested as accomplices before and after the fact. That one moved his gf out of the way was preknowlege of what was going to happen and bringing a loaded gun to an altercation was for what reason? This is a joke.

 

[Franisdaman]

There is no way he's not culpable in some way. I guarantee that if these weren't basketball players they would all be arrested as accomplices before and after the fact. That one moved his gf out of the way was preknowlege of what was going to happen and bringing a loaded gun to an altercation was for what reason? This is a joke.

At minimum, he broke the student code of conduct for possessing (and driving around with) not only a firearm, but a LOADED firearm. And that firearm was used in a murder, where he and 2 other Bama basketball players were present. The reason he's still on the team is he's the best player on the #1 ranked team in the nation. Period.

I would love to know at least these things:

* Was that firearm legally owned by now ex-player Darius Miles?
* What other Bama players possess firearms?
* What has happened in the past to other non revenue sport students (or just students) at Alabama who were caught with firearms? What, if any, discipline did they face?

 

[lucas80]

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Miller is his ticket out of Tuscaloosa, or to a big extension.
My question is how will NBA people evaluate him if he goes pro?

 

[shanksit44]

Change the gun laws. What Miller did isn't against the law, unfortunately.

I'm confused then. How would this murder have happened without Millers involvement by bringing the gun to the murder scene as requested by Miles? What was he thinking they were going to do with the weapon? Plunk pigeons?

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Franisdaman]

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My God, talk about bad optics.

 

[Franisdaman]

I'm confused then. How would this murder have happened without Millers involvement by bringing the gun to the murder scene as requested by Miles? What was he thinking they were going to do with the weapon? Plunk pigeons?

No student or student athlete is allowed to possess a firearm on campus. Brandon Miller should be suspended indefinitely and probably kicked off the team for possessing not just a firearm but a loaded firearm that ended up being used in a murder. Brandon Miller also was at the scene of the murder. I just don't understand why he has not missed one freaking game. Well, yes I do understand, he's the best player on the number one ranked team in the nation and Alabama wants to win the national championship.

 

[Birky]

My God, talk about bad optics.

Did he stare at anybody during the frisk? If so, we have a problem.

 

[obfuscating]

My guess, it isn’t a choice.

Choices and consequences, everyone has them everyday.

 

[SI_NYC]

I think it's pretty clear, however, that he violated the Alabama Student Code of Conduct by having a firearm in his vehicle.

From the Alabama Student Conduct handbook:

Article III: Proscribed Conduct

Any student found to have committed one or more of the following acts of misconduct is subject to the disciplinary sanctions outlined in Article V.

D. Offenses Disrupting Order or Disregarding Health and Safety

.........4. Possession or use of a dangerous weapon or firearm on University premises in violation of University , including, but not limited to, the University’s Dangerous Weapons and Firearms Policy.

Article V: Conduct Procedures​

Members of the University community are strongly encouraged to participate in the conduct process as witnesses if they have knowledge or information regarding the alleged violation(s) in question and if they have been requested to participate.

Code of Student Conduct

secure2.compliancebridge.com

It’s still not against the law. He did break the school rules though, so it’s up to UA administrators to punish or not.

 

[shanksit44]

Choices and consequences, everyone has them everyday.

Absolutely! Problem is, some are not equipped to make smart decisions or they feel entitled because of who they are or who they know. Which the University of Alabama , City of Tuscaloosa and possibly the state of Alabama agree totally with. Pretty F’n sad in my opinion.

 

[sm_hawkeye]

There is no way he's not culpable in some way. I guarantee that if these weren't basketball players they would all be arrested as accomplices before and after the fact. That one moved his gf out of the way was preknowlege of what was going to happen and bringing a loaded gun to an altercation was for what reason? This is a joke.

The argument was he didn’t know the gun was in the car. So if this can’t be proven it’s hard for the school to use their conduct punishment.

He received a text to pickup Miles, the gun owner, and alleges he was already in route to destination when another text came asking to bring his “heat”. Not sure if police get geolocation data from carrier, but that seems to be the only way they could prove this.

The gun owner who didn’t do the killing is charged with murder, miles, was kicked off the team when news broke on this. Before that it was suspicious how he was rule out for the season with injury that seemed minor.

Miles admitted to handing over the gun, but even if he didnt legally he is responsible for that gun.

It’s pretty messed up situation. Many colleges would not want to risk the optics of not handling the situation as they did. But i don’t know exactly where I stand. I wouldn’t want a player to be punished for something he isn’t guilty of.

 

[sober_teacher]

My God, talk about bad optics.

What’s especially ridiculous is the coach is claiming ignorance that this had been the intro routine all year. Somehow no one else on the team, the other coaches, etc., had no idea and/or thought to say doing this going forward might be a bad idea.

This past week has had so much stupid coming from the Alabama program it seems impossible.

 

[obfuscating]

What’s especially ridiculous is the coach is claiming ignorance that this had been the intro routine all year. Somehow no one else on the team, the other coaches, etc., had no idea and/or thought to say doing this going forward might be a bad idea.

This past week has had so much stupid coming from the Alabama program it seems impossible.

Its all about winning and money, ncaa sports is circling the toilet.

 

[shanksit44]

I hope they can find out the timeline, communications and where everyone was at when this all started. I’ve heard a few different ones. Each new one further distances Miller from partaking with knowledge. I call BS.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

It’s still not against the law. He did break the school rules though, so it’s up to UA administrators to punish or not.

Yeah, those upstanding gents down in the "think tank" known as Tuscaloosa will certainly do the right thing 🙄

 

[Franisdaman]

The argument was he didn’t know the gun was in the car. So if this can’t be proven it’s hard for the school to use their conduct punishment.

He received a text to pickup Miles, the gun owner, and alleges he was already in route to destination when another text came asking to bring his “heat”. Not sure if police get geolocation data from carrier, but that seems to be the only way they could prove this.

The gun owner who didn’t do the killing is charged with murder, miles, was kicked off the team when news broke on this. Before that it was suspicious how he was rule out for the season with injury that seemed minor.

Miles admitted to handing over the gun, but even if he didnt legally he is responsible for that gun.

It’s pretty messed up situation. Many colleges would not want to risk the optics of not handling the situation as they did. But i don’t know exactly where I stand. I wouldn’t want a player to be punished for something he isn’t guilty of.

sorry, but I find it hard to believe Brandon Miller did not know he had a loaded gun in his car

i also find it hard to believe that when Brandon Miller was asked to "bring heat," that he didn't know that he was delivering that loaded gun to Darius Miles

 

[Franisdaman]

Fran's stare is a bad look but what's going on at Bama is a "saga?"

Good grief.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Fran's stare is a bad look but what's going on at Bama is a "saga?"

Good grief.

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Yeah, Seth Davis kind of off-the-rails mentioning those two things in the same sentence.

 

[Franisdaman]

The pat down followed by the head coach's reaction to it.

It's clear Brandon Miller won't be missing any games.

 

[Bishop1971]

Both wilbon and cornheiser on pti sd he shouldn't be playing and wilbon questioned if there's an adult in his life that actually tells him the truth about stuff. Set his butt on the bench. Best comment I've heard about him.

 

[sbhawk64]

It’s still not against the law. He did break the school rules though, so it’s up to UA administrators to punish or not.

Owning a unregistered gun and having the gun on university property is the only thing he should be charged with. He has nothing to do with the murder. The murderer is responsible for that. Are we going to arrest people who loan their car to somebody and the driver kills someone with it?

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Owning a unregistered gun and having the gun on university property is the only thing he should be charged with. He has nothing to do with the murder. The murderer is responsible for that. Are we going to arrest people who loan their car to somebody and the driver kills someone work it?

If that is your opinion, fine. It is not the state of the law. First, providing the murder weapon certainly raises the presence of felony murder or conspiracy charge. A person in illegal possession cannot lawfully transfer that illegal gun to any other person. There is a stand-alone felony that could also trigger the felony murder rule.

Both guys should be prosecuted to the max.

 

[sbhawk64]

If that is your opinion, fine. It is not the state of the law. First, providing the murder weapon certainly raises the presence of felony murder or conspiracy charge. A person in illegal possession cannot lawfully transfer that illegal gun to any other person. There is a stand-alone felony that could also trigger the felony murder rule.

Both guys should be prosecuted to the max.

What is the state of the law? Please share the state law that supports that. I'm unfamiliar as are the state police evidently.

 

[TheCainer]

Both wilbon and cornheiser on pti sd he shouldn't be playing and wilbon questioned if there's an adult in his life that actually tells him the truth about stuff. Set his butt on the bench. Best comment I've heard about him.

FWIW, I did hear that his dad played in the NFL in the 90's. I think he also went to Alabama, so it may be a cultural thing within the university.

 

[obfuscating]

I hope they can find out the timeline, communications and where everyone was at when this all started. I’ve heard a few different ones. Each new one further distances Miller from partaking with knowledge. I call BS.

He gave the guy the gun = accomplice. Unless he's a licensed dealer and vetted the guy, he's in neck deep.

 

[kzoohawk80]

He gave the guy the gun = accomplice.

Did Miller admit to bringing him the gun? Is that an actual fact or did he unknowingly bring the gun? I'm genuinely asking because I thought he just brought him the car with the gun it. Is that not accurate? I think he did knowingly but my thoughts don't matter when it comes law.