with his commit? I thought he would already be on board with Iowa since Farniok committed to Nebraska.
Alaric Jackson, what are you hearing
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Unfortunately...he really liked his visit to ISU so he could go either way, but I'd be surprised if he didn't pick Hawks. I don't think Farnioks decision had anything to do with it since we'd probably have had room for all three, Fant, Farniok and AJ (yes, we're maxed at commits but there's that little clearinghouse issue).
Btw, it's been said he'll announce Monday. Not too much longer to wait.
Btw, it's been said he'll announce Monday. Not too much longer to wait.
We are still not out of the woods. I just read where some 4-star OL switched his commitment from Michigan to Stanford. So ... now Michigan has an opening at OL ... and Jackson is from the state of Michigan ... hmmm.
He will be a clown. Hate to say it, but they've put together quite the class for only being there 4 months or whatever it is
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Yah, who wouldn't want to be a part of Cyclone nation and that fabulous football history? And ya get to live in Ames, too? Whoa.
hes gotten a lot to commit, but I wouldn't say they are big time gets.. Most of the guys he has gotten, he was targeting when he was at Toledo. I highly doubt they will amount to much.
You act as if the recruits he is getting are turning down major programs or are highly rated.....or are you just simply saying the fact that he actually convinced anybody to come play for ISU and live in Ames that in itself is an accomplishment....I would agree with with the latter of these two
This attitude that Ames is such a horrible place while IC is just so cool and hip is so humorous to me. They really aren't much different at all. If you really need to get in to bars before you're 21 or love suburban Chicago kids (who probably sell better drugs) I guess I understand. Other than that they offer essentially the same college experience. This is coming from someone who went to ISU but spent a lot of time visiting friends in IC. They spent plenty of weekends visiting us in Ames too by the way.
I'll give you Allen as a big pickup, but their class looks no different from any other year. A bunch of jucos and lots of guys from the south that they fight against schools like Arkansas State, Sam Houston State, Toledo, Purdue, and illinois.. Whoop de freaking do
Edit: this came off as dick-ish. Sorry about that
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I am in NO WAY a cyclone supporter. Never have or will be. What I am saying is, in the 4 months or so time he has been there. I believe I read that there are only 3/4 hold over commits from the Rhoads staff. He has gotten quality players to come visit, including A. Jackson who didn't have an offer until this guy came along and he some gotten some to commit, yes, most have been his contacts from Toledo.
Recent commit Chase Allen wasn't, Iowa inquired about him when Fant almost went MIA. They got Foster, who Iowa was never considering but he is a 4 star that Rhoads probably wouldn't even got on campus. The graduate transfer that now has offers from oregon and Florida, Rhoads wouldn't have sniffed. He is doing some good things recruiting wise, can he coach? I have no idea as ISU shoulda beat his Toledo team last year.....
Iowa city vs. Ames? To me, it's Iowa City all the way. To some, it's the opposite. Gotta take off the black and gold glasses and realize not everyone will fall in love with Iowa City. Heck, i thought I read on Nebraska boards as it being the reason Farniok went Nebraska...
As Iowa fans, we should know ranking don't matter, hell we preach that rhetoric everytime someone downplays our classes...
I never said big pickup. My point was, this Campbell snake oil salesman is getting guys to campus that Rhoads would have never even tried. Rhoads settled for less. Rhoads wouldn't even be offering all this guys...
I will also say, I would NOT trade anyone from Iowas class with theirs....
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This "they're basically the same" isn't the truth at all. I'm not saying Ames is horrible but Ames: Iowa City is truly rural: urban. Iowa city is hub of culture, while ames is just now finally getting touches in north Ames and old downtown to an extent. The restaurant/bar selection in Ames is putrid for a college town and really any town that size. Campustown is a dump, which is too bad with it so close to such a nice campus.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I've never experienced anything in IC (food, culture, etc.) that I wouldn't be able to find in Ames. One other factor: Ames is a very short drive from downtown Des Moines which is being complimented nationally for being a surprisingly hip and cultured place these days. I've seen a lot of ISU athletes down here recently.
Ok. Just curious can you point out some specific spots, events, landmarks, etc. that makes Iowa City such a cool place compared to Ames. I had this discussion with a Hawkeye fan friend of mine and he just kind of came back with "Iowa City is just cool man".
I like the ped mall. It's cool. It's not as cool as State Street in Madison but it does have a more vibrant feel that Campustown in Ames. I can give you that. Downtown DM has become an alternative entertainment option for ISU students. It's a nice bonus.
Des Moines and Ames area did make the top ten city areas for racial prejudice recently so they have that in common.
I'm not the one you were originally debating with. I simply said, you can't use another town/city to justify another:
In my opinion, to each their own. You won't convince us, we won't convince you. Move on.
I'm not trying to convince anyone really. Who cares? My thing is that it's another example of the superiority attitude that many of us ISU fans loathe. "It's not even close", "we're on a completely different level", "Iowa City is paradise compared to 'Lames'" It's just not true. Iowa City and Ames deal with the same challenges. Crappy weather. Relatively dull landscape. Culturally homogenous state and city. Again I just find it all pretty humorous.
Iowa City and Ames are both fine college towns - I doubt that has much to do with the decision for most recruits deciding between Iowa and Iowa State.
The difference to recruits will be the relationships built with the coaches, likelihood of the coaching staff being there all 4-5 years, facilities, program history, expectation of winning, etc. Most of these factors weigh towards Iowa, but if a recruit really connects with the ISU staff, for whatever reason, then it is easy to understand why a recruit would choose ISU.
The difference to recruits will be the relationships built with the coaches, likelihood of the coaching staff being there all 4-5 years, facilities, program history, expectation of winning, etc. Most of these factors weigh towards Iowa, but if a recruit really connects with the ISU staff, for whatever reason, then it is easy to understand why a recruit would choose ISU.
I will also add that Iowa's coaches have more to sell offensive line recruits than most other teams in the country. I swear every NFL team has a former Iowa player on its OL. Thats absolutely huge! The thing ISU may be trying to sell right now is early playing time and a young and inginuetive coaching staff. Those things matter too. To be honest I still think Iowa is the safer choice for a kid at that position. We will see.
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That young and inginuetive staff couldn't get Toledo into a MAC championship game. They had a chance this past year and let a mediocre Western Michigan team take them out of it. Plus he did inherit the program that was on sound footing but didn't advance it.
Campbell has energized you clone fans and I don't blame you for being optimistic. But some of your fellow clone fans on CF are borderline insane. I mean claiming a recruiting victory over Iowa with Sean Foster is ridiculous. Our coaches simply didn't think he was good enough to offer.
Campbell might turn out good for ISU but I wouldn't put him in the Hall of Fame just yet.
Yes but this staff just coached a MAC team that was parked in the top 25 for most of the year (including a road win over an SEC team). Not a big reach for kids to believe that they can achieve more than the previous regime at ISU.
I'm sure Ames has a lot to offer as most college towns do. Getting recruits to that area is one thing but turning them into a good football team Is another. A good example of good recruiters are Zook, Brewster, Muschamp, and Hoak. but they all got fired. Just have to wait and see what kind of coach Campbell is and if he can turn ISU into anything but Iowa's little brother.
I cannot say this enough: Stay off of CF!!! It's overrun by trolls and mental midgets. Complete waste of time and not representative of ISU's fan base.
That was a tough loss for Toledo I'm sure. Doesn't mean Campbell can't coach. Did you forget that Kirk is barely over .500 against the embarrassment that is Iowa State Football.
Also it's a bit rich that you brought up a loss to Western Michigan
. Really young or short memory?
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They are tied for 52nd. 12 spots behind Iowa. When he arrived on campus 2 months ago, their class was in the high 70's at best.They are waiting on kids that are deciding between themselves and Iowa,Cincy,Tenn,Va Tech,GT,MIizzu, Arizona,along with turds like Illinois and Purdue. Will they get any of them? I don't know.But he is atleast getting these kids to look at a crap pile like ISU. That is an accomplishment.They also recieved a transfer from NC State that started as a true freshman this past season. Kid was a high 3 star player out of high school. Another transfer was a 3 star when he signed with Oregon State. One of their JUCOS was committed to the Buckeyes at one time. Another Juco started at Tenn during his career. Campbell is getting some decent talent to atleast listen to him. Look at the offers of Iowa's last 5-7 recruits last year. Compare that to what Campbell is potentially bringing in at the end of his first class with only 2 months available to recruit....
Isu grads will flock here and argue to the end of the earth that you are wrong. Of course when they are asked to explain the "atmosphere" of Trice in the second half of their games they will not have any answer for that and insist their parking lost and water is better than ours.
Wait for it, wait for it......
I love Kinnick! It's a classic college football venue. Tough to beat. Parking sucks but the tailgating is still phenomenal.
Iowa State has a fun tailgating atmosphere mostly because of all the available parking near the stadium. The upgrades that were made to the stadium itself exceeded my expectations.
Iowa has the edge for sure but you can have a really fun Saturday at either place.
I'm verklempt over his final choices. When it's a kid debating between, say, Iowa-Michigan State or Iowa-Wisconsin it makes sense...like T-Bone vs Ribeye or Meatloaf vs Salisbury Steak....when I see it coming down to Iowa vs Iowa State its like Prime Rib vs hot dogs or chicken pasta alfredo vs chicken flavored ramen noodles.
Sure, I get it, sometimes it comes down to where a kid feels most comfortable and/or the school he followed growing up....but still it's just odd.
Sure, I get it, sometimes it comes down to where a kid feels most comfortable and/or the school he followed growing up....but still it's just odd.
I cannot say this enough: Stay off of CF!!! It's overrun by trolls and mental midgets. Complete waste of time and not representative of ISU's fan base.
That was a tough loss for Toledo I'm sure. Doesn't mean Campbell can't coach. Did you forget that Kirk is barely over .500 against the embarrassment that is Iowa State Football.
Also it's a bit rich that you brought up a loss to Western Michigan
Not a good Iowa team that lost to WMU. Toledo had a chance to play for a championship, quite a bit of a difference there IMO. He didn't put one team in that game. Where is the excellence?
Yes, I do believe that KF has underachieved against an instate rival. Iowa has also finished 4 times in the top ten nationally under KF. So there is also a high level of excellence.
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