All 47 people in attendance are shocked at terrible coaching/execution
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Yep, thank you Fran for actually recruiting. You were able to secure 3 difference makers in 15 years, then turn around and not do anything with them in March. Bravo! Let's build him a statue!
I don't disagree with anything you said here. I've consistently said the bar for me for a successful season is making the NCAA tournament. You make it, that's a good season. You get more, that's gravy and that's what makes things special.
Fran has been successful, but hasn't really delivered anything great and is unlikely to. I agree that as a fan that does get tiresome. ISU fans experienced that with McCarney to be honest. I do think some of the criticism of Fran is a little overblown sometimes. He's not a bad coach at all, he's just not great.
With the portal being what it is now, rebuilds can be literally immediate. IMO I think you could probably still get Devries and he already has WVU competing at a very high level, the game in Morgantown is one of the ones I have circled as a loss for ISU. I'd expect if Iowa got him they'd be immediately competitive at a level they haven't been for a bit and in a style that is a little more conducive to long term success.
You are a macro of select fans and terrible everything.
Still pouting after the WIN.
Fran has been the very definition of mediocre.
Ascended out of the abyss Lick put us in, so Ill give him credit for that .
However, in the big picture his lack of post season success with some pretty good talent is the elephant in the room.
The very definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. That's been Iowa BB under his leadership.
Ascended out of the abyss Lick put us in, so Ill give him credit for that .
However, in the big picture his lack of post season success with some pretty good talent is the elephant in the room.
The very definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. That's been Iowa BB under his leadership.
This "attendance" bullshit needs to stop at every level of sports. Either report "Tickets sold AND distributed" or "Attendance." To report one as the other is just plain lying. From TV I thought it looked like, maybe, 5,000--about one-third full. It's embarrassing. If this continues, they should drop the curtains on the end zones and other sections, like they used to do for the women's games.
I for one was very guilty of watching Luka G play his Freshman year and trying to run down the floor. Looked like he had 10 lbs of concrete on each foot.
.500 in league play. Averaged an 8 seed in 7 NCAA Tourney appearances over 15 years. And this is the winningest coach in program history.
I'm really not sure what our realistic expectations should be. At base, I think we should be able to win more than ZERO Big Ten regular season titles in 45 years. I think we should be able to make the second weekend of the tourney more than ZERO times in 25 years. After that...I'm not so sure.
Fran's a good coach at a program that's tough to win at. I don't think there are good reasons to lionize him or to detract from what he has accomplished here. You are what your record says you are.
The bullshit some people spout about "good students" ..."good representative for the university" is just that - bullshit. Every single single Big Ten program has that. Every. Single. One. Those things are the absolute minimum you must do in the B1G. If you don't, you don't have a job, see e.g., Juwan Howard. A coach doesn't deserve praise for accomplishing the bare minimum standard in the league. JMO.
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Nearly EVERY successful athlete has had a parent or family member who worked with them outside organized practices. I've seen others say that Fran gets no credit for Garza and the Murrays' improvement. You don't think Fran helped their games? BS!
If Fran is such a great developer, where have these types of players been for the duration of his 15 years?
I know. Why don't the Hawks win the title every year? I don't get it.
What a natural step in logic. From why can't we consistently get quality players to why can't we win National Titles every year. BUT, to answer your question, when Fran DID have elite players, even at the same time, he still can't win in March 😂
Try again, friend.
There have been multiple lightly recruited kids who have ended their careers being all conference level players. You can dislike Fran and want more but to say he hasn't done this is just being flat out dishonest.
There's a reason for that. Remember that Garza had a 9-pound cyst removed from his abdomen before his sophomore season.
Yeah, any other point in the game you reach in with two hands on the dribbler at that part of the floor it's called a foul.
I didn't say he was great. My point was that denying him any credit for the improvement of players just isn't fair.
Getting paid 23/24 million dollars (through 2028) for these results isn't fair.
I was at the game and the bad call tally was Iowa 1, Nebraska 7+.....missed a backcourt violation and several possession direction calls all in Neb favor....Iowa shot 0 free throws in the first half and didn't get to the bonus until very late game....homer??.....I think not
This is probably obvious, but I think the reason most (me for one) complain about Fran is this: Poor defense every year. An objective person would admit this and as coach, try to improve. But Fran never coaches defense. We just get frustrated.
Interesting he didn't teach either of his boys to shoot well. They also had the benefit of having one of the best HS coaches for 4 years, especially on defense.
Seems like a good forum to post this:
Not surprisingly, the lack of fan support is noticeable to players, recruits, and their families. To be sure, by giving the program zero support we as fans are not helping improve the program (regardless of who the coach is).
You need to credit Fran too, come on man.
Honestly, I wish a few more of these constant complainers would join you in your boycott. Don't need the constant negativity.
I don't remember McCaffery suiting up and missing all those shots in the NCAA's.
Iowa mens basketball is a joke. Listen. I live 10 minutes from Hilton. I don't like ISU fans, but they expect more than Iowa fans do. Joke
