All-Time Coaching Leaders by AA's

[wrestleknownothing]

Tom Brands is working his way up the list and should hit the century mark this season.

At his current pace he will pass the legendary Harold Nichols (who we do not talk enough about) in 12ish seasons.

Has he got 12 more seasons in him?

 

[Hawktu]

Gables percentages are crazy good.

 

[johnyt9]

Tom Brands is working his way up the list and should hit the century mark this season.

At his current pace he will pass the legendary Harold Nichols (who we do not talk enough about) in 12ish seasons.

Has he got 12 more seasons in him?

wow look at this list - and people still want to replace Tom - wild

 

[PSU Mike]

More than half of Cael’s 101 AA placements have been finalists (56/101 my best count).

 

[WildTurk]

Gables percentages are crazy good.

That's what happens when you are the greatest there ever was!

 

[wrestleknownothing]

More than half of Cael’s 101 AA placements have been finalists (56/101 my best count).

62.

57 at Penn State and 5 at Iowa State.

 

[PSU Mike]

62.

57 at Penn State and 5 at Iowa State.

Thanks. Clones are prolly hating me.

 

[wrestleknownothing]

BTW

Gable is also above 50%

 

[TrollsRus]

More than half of Cael’s 101 AA placements have been finalists (56/101 my best count).

 

[TarpHawk]

wow look at this list - and people still want to replace Tom - wild

If the measure of success is simply "AAs," then Tom is near the top, as this chart clearly demonstrates.

The issue is whether primarily generating low- and mid-tier AAs is defined as success or failure. It all depends on who you ask.

If you revise the chart to only show champs, Tom's numbers dip below Zalesky's.

Wild indeed.

 

[Hawktu]

There is a plausable argument on both sides. I reside on we are not gonna be happy if they get rid of the Brands before his contract is up or he is ready to go.

 

[WhiteDog125]

These are cool stats. And yes it’s unfortunate no one talks about Harold Nichols. He’s on the Mount Rushmore imo.

 

[SPOONER]

wow look at this list - and people still want to replace Tom - wild

I guess if your goal for a true blood blood program is this low of a bar you think he’s doing awesome.

That said, I’m not necessarily in the camp that wants him to be replaced. We just need to be better. Period.

 

[Hawktu]

Take penn state out if the equation and just how bad are the Brands really doing?

 

[SPOONER]

Take penn state out if the equation and just how bad are the Brands really doing?

No idea why you’d do that. But Iowa has only finished 2nd to PSU once, so…

 

[SPOONER]

Since 2010, Iowa has finished 4th or lower twice as much as 1st or 2nd.

 

[TarpHawk]

Take penn state out if the equation and just how bad are the Brands really doing?

In 17 seasons, Tom has won 4 team titles (2008, 2009, 2010, 2021).

Without Penn State, Tom would've won 5--the additional being 2023.

Ohio State would've won 4.
Cornell would've won 2.
Minnesota would've won 2.
Okie St would've won 2.
Michigan would've won 1.

Under Tom, Iowa has only scored 100+ points 4 times--same as Zalesky--and only once in the past 10 seasons. He's good at consistently being in the top 4 and producing mid-tier All Americans. He is less good at producing NCAA team titles and individual champs.

BTW, I'm not calling for his ouster. Just showing the stats, which are what they are.

 

[HawkFan1986]

In 17 seasons, Tom has won 4 team titles (2008, 2009, 2010, 2021).

Without Penn State, Tom would've won 5--the additional being 2023.

Ohio State would've won 4.
Cornell would've won 2.
Minnesota would've won 2.
Okie St would've won 2.
Michigan would've won 1.

Under Tom, Iowa has only scored 100+ points 4 times--same as Zalesky--and only once in the past 10 seasons. He's good at consistently being in the top 4 and producing mid-tier All Americans. He is less good at producing NCAA team titles and individual champs.

BTW, I'm not calling for his ouster. Just showing the stats, which are what they are.

Always sobering info when you read these stats. So thanks for posting…I guess. Haha

 

[Hawktu]

Since 2010, Iowa has finished 4th or lower twice as much as 1st or 2nd.

In 17 seasons, Tom has won 4 team titles (2008, 2009, 2010, 2021).

Without Penn State, Tom would've won 5--the additional being 2023.

Ohio State would've won 4.
Cornell would've won 2.
Minnesota would've won 2.
Okie St would've won 2.
Michigan would've won 1.

Under Tom, Iowa has only scored 100+ points 4 times--same as Zalesky--and only once in the past 10 seasons. He's good at consistently being in the top 4 and producing mid-tier All Americans. He is less good at producing NCAA team titles and individual champs.

BTW, I'm not calling for his ouster. Just showing the stats, which are what they are.

My chin is down and I am walking away.

 

[manatree]

In 17 seasons, Tom has won 4 team titles (2008, 2009, 2010, 2021).

Without Penn State, Tom would've won 5--the additional being 2023.

Ohio State would've won 4.
Cornell would've won 2.
Minnesota would've won 2.
Okie St would've won 2.
Michigan would've won 1.

Under Tom, Iowa has only scored 100+ points 4 times--same as Zalesky--and only once in the past 10 seasons. He's good at consistently being in the top 4 and producing mid-tier All Americans. He is less good at producing NCAA team titles and individual champs.

BTW, I'm not calling for his ouster. Just showing the stats, which are what they are.

You’re making the even larger leap of assuming that the Penn State wrestlers did not exist and would not have wrestled elsewhere. These exercises might be fun, but impossibly inaccurate.

 

[LIV4GOD]

You’re making the even larger leap of assuming that the Penn State wrestlers did not exist and would not have wrestled elsewhere. These exercises might be fun, but impossibly inaccurate.

This is true. Without Cael and PSU I do believe we get Jason Nolf. Who knows what happens after that?

 

[WhiteDog125]

This is true. Without Cael and PSU I do believe we get Jason Nolf. Who knows what happens after that?

"We had Nolf" -Tom

 

[Hawktu]

This is true. Without Cael and PSU I do believe we get Jason Nolf. Who knows what happens after that?

Penn state almost lost him to Stanford. That may be the wrong ivy but he was headed to an ivy. it was on one of his interviews, cant remeber which one.

 

[SPOONER]

Penn state almost lost him to Stanford. That may be the wrong ivy but he was headed to an ivy. it was on one of his interviews, cant remeber which one.

Stanford. Of the Ivy League.

 

[12tdsaw]

was gonna play for the cubs

 

[LIV4GOD]

Penn state almost lost him to Stanford. That may be the wrong ivy but he was headed to an ivy. it was on one of his interviews, cant remeber which one.

Well, my source is about as close as it gets, but it's not as good as Jason, lol. Stories change over time, too. Schollie amount was the issue, allegedly.