Amazon calling employees back to office 5 days a week
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I'm currently in Ohio at an AirBNB working for the week while we're here for a wedding. Boss knows and has zero issues with it.
Of course, I don't work for Bezos.
Of course, I don't work for Bezos.
So ALL big corporations are using the same tactic to "force shape" their organizations? Piss them off so they'll quit, that way we don't have to lay them off.
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If you find a job that better aligns with your goals take it.
Nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed.
I used to force shape before force shaping was cool. A lot less wrongful termination suits and PIPs to deal with.
it will start to happen all over. Management will fix what aint broken. otherwise what purpose do they serve?
I'm not saying that WFH isn't broke. I'm just saying nothing ever stays the same in corporations. even if it's working. They swing back and forth and a lot of times it has nothing to do with getting better. it's just to give them something to do or show.
I'm not saying that WFH isn't broke. I'm just saying nothing ever stays the same in corporations. even if it's working. They swing back and forth and a lot of times it has nothing to do with getting better. it's just to give them something to do or show.
The "studies" that say working from home increases productivity are BS.
Some EE's are just as productive but the vast majority are not.
Some EE's are just as productive but the vast majority are not.
I am not anti-WFH. However, what I fail to wrap my head around is this---if it is indeed more productive (aka profitable) to allow employees to work from home, then wouldn't more companies be doing it? Or are we just so stuck in our old ways that conceding "control" by adopting WFH policies is worth the financial cost? My conclusion is that it is so variable-dependent (culture, leadership, particular industry, etc), that companies need to do what they think is best, and employees can find options elsewhere if necessary.
IMO as always I bet they want to cut staff but don’t want to fire anybody
Every industry is going to be different and every role within that industry will have nuances unique. I can say that in my industry, it's time to be back in office because it's reached dysfunction.
I would agree with this, with my own anecdotal observations.
Correct. They aren't widely know to burn through employees, blue or white collar.
They routinely bring unique food trucks to their offices and publicize it.
there is no difference in my production working from home. but I was working from home long before covid. I have no wife or kids.
If they really wanted to improve my productivity they would eliminate DMs from the workplace.
If they really wanted to improve my productivity they would eliminate DMs from the workplace.
Has anyone explained why office jobs HAVE to be done in one specific building? It’s 2024, everything you need is on your laptop.
Easier for AI to watch and learn in the people they are going to replace are centrally located.
WFH has worked for our "bean counter" money folks. Everybody else is back at work because the jobs require collaboration and hands on.
Experimented for a while during and after covid with WFH with those jobs but it didn't really work.
Prior to covid we had zero WFH.
CSB
Experimented for a while during and after covid with WFH with those jobs but it didn't really work.
Prior to covid we had zero WFH.
CSB
Our team is spread out all over. Those of us who live within 25 miles of an office have to show up once a week (they're changing it to 3 days a week next month). So a couple of us show up in Iowa, 1 shows up in Florida and the rest don't even need to show up since they're outside the 25 mile radius. It's pointless
My job is starting to crack down on WFH at least regarding allowing people to flex their office days if they wanted to, some people are abusing that privilege I guess. Hope it doesn’t mean having to go 100% in office again.
It all depends imo. Some people do well and others do not. Also depends on your particular situation. I work for Wells Fargo. Everyone I work with on a daily basis lives and works in different cities so everything we do is via teleconference, email and messenger, so all our collaborations are online already. Really not sure what the benefit is to being onsite in that sort of situation.
Forced attrition baby!! They are doing this at my corporation I work at
What's extra dumb is companies are paying good money for this pointless office space.
I don't have a single teammate in the area. 2 in Kentucky, one in Texas, 1 in Hungary, 1 in India. My boss is in the UK. I would be going into the office to sit by myself.
and I work 10-15 hours a week during off hours doing application/server maintenance, oncall duties, and testing. Sometimes 20 on top of a regular work week.
Why do we do anything in person? Why go to a restaurant or bar when we can eat and drink at home? Why go to a concert or a sporting event? Why go out shopping when you can buy pretty much anything online?
The rest of my team in is Amsterdam. Somehow we make it work 🤷♂️
I go to restaurants, bars, concerts and sporting events with family and friends. I don't see the value in forced social interactions. But that might just be the Larry David in me.
The next step will be to start consolidating locations by department imo. I've already seen my employer start down that path
If there weren't so many lazy people that abuse WFH more companies wouldn't have to force people to come into the office. The amount of people I had to fire during our short WFH period was just dumb. Do your job and don't ruin it for everyone else.
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this. A decent amount of software engineering was done from home offices before the pandemic and the WFH trend.
$$$$$$$. More people in the office means more need and higher prices for commercial real estate, parking decks, all the nearby businesses that benefit, more need for multi car households, on and on…
