Amazon workers worldwide begin strike from Black Friday to Cyber Monday...

[St. Louis Hawk]

Not trying to take sides here; but aren’t you kind of doing the same thing? The unions are clearly breaking the law here.

They are? Go on …

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

They don't work for Amazon.

They joined the union at XYZ Transportation Corp. which happens to have a contract with Amazon.

Amazon doesn't have a contract with these union workers, XYZ does.

And? They joined a union knowing their contract would be renegotiated and they paid union dues?

 

[Brian_Fantana]

They are? Go on …

Guess I didn’t look up the law, so my bad if they aren’t and I’ll show myself the door. I just assume that running a fire hydrant and intentionally flooding the streets is breaking some sort of law.

Again, my bad. I’m an idiot as I misread that. I’ll stick to the gambling threads.

 

[The Tradition]

And? They joined a union knowing their contract would be renegotiated and they paid union dues?

They aren't striking against their employer... they're striking against their employer's employer. Get it yet?

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Guess I didn’t look up the law, so my bad if they aren’t and I’ll show myself the door. I just assume that running a fire hydrant and intentionally flooding the streets is breaking some sort of law.

Again, my bad if not. I’ll stick to the gambling threads.

The union workers didn’t flood their own set up location. That water is allegedly coming out of the Amazon plant and directed to where the workers were setting up.

 

[Brian_Fantana]

The union workers didn’t flood their own set up location. That water is allegedly coming out of the Amazon plant and directed to where the workers were setting up.

Yep. Edited my post. Reading comprehension hard for me after a long day of football watching and drinks. I’ll see myself out!

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

They aren't striking against their employer... they're striking against their employer's employer. Get it yet?

And? They are trying to get a higher wage given the dual control recognized by the NLRA.

 

[The Tradition]

And? They are trying to get a higher wage given the dual control recognized by the NLRA.

And that joint-employer concept is overreach by the feds.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

And that joint-employer concept is overreach by the feds.

Blame the statutory definition I guess ..

 

[The Tradition]

Blame the statutory definition I guess ..

The statute was written in a time where many towns had only one factory and if you lost your job there you had zero chance of making a decent living.

That's not the case for Amazon drivers.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

The statute was written in a time where many towns had only one factory and if you lost your job there you had zero chance of making a decent living.

That's not the case for Amazon drivers.

Change the law …

Most laws are decades behind modern practice. Which is why CFR’s fill the gap.

But that’s another discussion.

 

[The Tradition]

Change the law …

Trump and the GOP-controlled congress should probably do that while they have the chance.

 

[Moral]

Trump and the GOP-controlled congress should probably do that while they have the chance.

By the time they are done we won't even need HR.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Trump and the GOP-controlled congress should probably do that while they have the chance.

Good luck.

 

[seminoleed]

Unlike actual productive businesses, unions don't produce anything anyone wants to buy. They're leaches preying on workers' desire to "stick it to the man" and be a part of a different team than the team they actually work for. Unions suck the life out of employee morale and create an "us against them" mindset.

There's nothing good about unions.

Remember, today's unions aren't "downtrodden workers banding together to stand up against the man." They are huge, sophisticated organizations and the more members they can get, the more power they have. And if the unions have outsized power, that's bad for the consumer because gains they make are passed on to the consumer, not carved out of corporate profit.

Again I say, there's nothing good about unions.

Exactly

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Unlike actual productive businesses, unions don't produce anything anyone wants to buy. They're leaches preying on workers' desire to "stick it to the man" and be a part of a different team than the team they actually work for. Unions suck the life out of employee morale and create an "us against them" mindset.

There's nothing good about unions.

Remember, today's unions aren't "downtrodden workers banding together to stand up against the man." They are huge, sophisticated organizations and the more members they can get, the more power they have. And if the unions have outsized power, that's bad for the consumer because gains they make are passed on to the consumer, not carved out of corporate profit.

Again I say, there's nothing good about unions.

If companies don't want to deal with Unions there's a pretty simple solution, give their employees good working conditions, benefits, and salaries. Instead corporations would rather spend that money fighting unionization.

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

Unlike actual productive businesses, unions don't produce anything anyone wants to buy. They're leaches preying on workers' desire to "stick it to the man" and be a part of a different team than the team they actually work for. Unions suck the life out of employee morale and create an "us against them" mindset.

There's nothing good about unions.

Remember, today's unions aren't "downtrodden workers banding together to stand up against the man." They are huge, sophisticated organizations and the more members they can get, the more power they have. And if the unions have outsized power, that's bad for the consumer because gains they make are passed on to the consumer, not carved out of corporate profit.

Again I say, there's nothing good about unions.

Trad is so off base on this topic it's sad.

 

[The Tradition]

If companies don't want to deal with Unions there's a pretty simple solution, give their employees good working conditions, benefits, and salaries. Instead corporations would rather spend that money fighting unionization.

This is true.

My company keeps up with wages, benefits and working conditions. None of our locations are unionized (but we did defeat a nasty unionization attempt in 2016). Keeping up with the competition is the key.

Not sure who exactly is competing with Amazon, though.

 

[The Tradition]

Trad is so off base on this topic it's sad.

Thanks for your meaningless contribution to the thread.