Amount of Offers Other Teams Have Made

[danny14]

Just out of curiosity, I checked to see how many offers other teams in the country have made, compared to Iowa. This is not a negative or positive on teams, because they all add offers as they get closer to the signing
date. These are some of the teams that show their offer lists.

Michigan 202
Cincinnati 178
Michigan St. 165
Nebraska 151
Alabama 142
Indiana 134
Pittsburgh 110
Clemson 108
Arizona 80
Iowa 72
Oklahoma St. 71
Oklahoma 64
Stanford 50

Would have guessed Oklahoma would have more. Their offers were followed by write-ups of each player, so it may have been all their players, or maybe the top stars.

 

[blockm2]

different coaches have different opinions as to what a scholarship offer means. Brady Hoke only offered if he was promising you a spot on the team next year. Harbaugh on the other hand just shoots off offers that mean nothing other than we'd like to recruit you and keep our name on your mind to just about every prospect he might ever bother recruiting.

Different coaches have very different approaches.

 

[danny14]

different coaches have different opinions as to what a scholarship offer means. Brady Hoke only offered if he was promising you a spot on the team next year. Harbaugh on the other hand just shoots off offers that mean nothing other than we'd like to recruit you and keep our name on your mind to just about every prospect he might ever bother recruiting.

Different coaches have very different approaches.

Yeah, what happens when you get 15 of your lowest ranked players of the 200 accept offers first, before the big shots? Harbaugh will show you...it won't be a pretty picture!

 

[MITCH492]

I think Nebraska is approaching 190 offers. I will post a link if I can find it. The new staff is really going after it.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

I think Nebraska is approaching 190 offers. I will post a link if I can find it. The new staff is really going after it.

Not sure more offers=getting after it 100+ offers seems a bit high and one could argue that is actually not getting after it as far as actually evaluating players and is just throwing shit against the wall to see if something sticks.....too each their own I guess

 

[GarryO37]

Not sure more offers=getting after it 100+ offers seems a bit high and one could argue that is actually not getting after it as far as actually evaluating players and is just throwing shit against the wall to see if something sticks.....too each their own I guess

Kind of like what Iowa did last year?

 

[blockm2]

Yeah, what happens when you get 15 of your lowest ranked players of the 200 accept offers first, before the big shots? Harbaugh will show you...it won't be a pretty picture!

it's plenty pretty. Those low rated kids that ended up going elsewhere knew they weren't promised a scholarship unless they continued to improve. Some of them didn't have the grades/test scores to make it, others didn't get any better on the field. Other similarly lowly rated kids that committed early and kept working at it and had the grades made the final class.

Harbaugh doesn't consider a commitment the same thing you or I do. He knows those kids will still take visits elsewhere and consider other schools. Similarly he tells them that he will continue to recruit other players and they need to work for the spot. There is a grand total of 1 kid in the last class (Swenson) that said less than good things about Harbaugh after ending up elsewhere. And Swenson heard for months what he didn't want to believe since he was a Hoke commit, not a Harbaugh commit.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Kind of like what Iowa did last year?

I am not sure that applies, almost all of the players they offered attended Iowa's camp or Iowa saw them at their satellite camps....none the less I do not think Iowa had over a 100 offers out by February last year.

 

[GarryO37]

I am not sure that applies, almost all of the players they offered attended Iowa's camp or Iowa saw them at their satellite camps....none the less I do not think Iowa had over a 100 offers out by February last year.

Yes it does apply. Iowa offers plenty of players that don't attend Iowa's camp. Iowa had a ton of offers out prior to their spring game. The month doesn't matter.

 

[InsaneHawk]

Just out of curiosity, I checked to see how many offers other teams in the country have made, compared to Iowa. This is not a negative or positive on teams, because they all add offers as they get closer to the signing
date. These are some of the teams that show their offer lists.

Michigan 202
Cincinnati 178
Michigan St. 165
Nebraska 151
Alabama 142
Indiana 134
Pittsburgh 110
Clemson 108
Arizona 80
Iowa 72
Oklahoma St. 71
Oklahoma 64
Stanford 50

Would have guessed Oklahoma would have more. Their offers were followed by write-ups of each player, so it may have been all their players, or maybe the top stars.

Is the Iowa coaching staff going back on cruise control after last year? I heard they are not holding any satellite camps and the lack of offers at this point is a little concerning considering they typically struggle in the recruiting game. I realize some of this has to do with the smaller amount of scholarships available, but I would still expect them to have a pretty good number of offers out there.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Yes it does apply. Iowa offers plenty of players that don't attend Iowa's camp. Iowa had a ton of offers out prior to their spring game. The month doesn't matter.

As I said, Iowa did not have 190 offers out at this time of year and/or by the Spring Game. Iowa had more offers than it usually would due to the landscape of recruiting today, however; in comparison to other teams it was still rather low. Iowa is still much more diligent than most, and I might be mistaken but it may be you. I think Iowa had a lot of commitments but still low offer number compared to Nebby and Michigan this year.
often times players report offers in which they do not actually have too. We had a player that reported offers from at least 2 teams that I know for a fact did not actually offer (one a walkon opportunity the other just sent mail). You ever wonder why some players end up at Alcorn State or Ball State with reported offers from Florida and USC....it is because those offers never exist. Rivals reporters simply speak to a prospect, the prospect spits out teams that have offered, and the Rivals report puts a check mark by the recruits name for offer.....very rare to the check the authenticity of offer

 

[David1979]

They don't have as many scholarships to fill this year, hence the low offer number. Plus they already have 5 commits out of a class that will probably end up with 17-18

 

[GarryO37]

As I said, Iowa did not have 190 offers out at this time of year and/or by the Spring Game. Iowa had more offers than it usually would due to the landscape of recruiting today, however; in comparison to other teams it was still rather low. Iowa is still much more diligent than most, and I might be mistaken but it may be you. I think Iowa had a lot of commitments but still low offer number compared to Nebby and Michigan this year.
often times players report offers in which they do not actually have too. We had a player that reported offers from at least 2 teams that I know for a fact did not actually offer (one a walkon opportunity the other just sent mail). You ever wonder why some players end up at Alcorn State or Ball State with reported offers from Florida and USC....it is because those offers never exist. Rivals reporters simply speak to a prospect, the prospect spits out teams that have offered, and the Rivals report puts a check mark by the recruits name for offer.....very rare to the check the authenticity of offer

No. You complained about about 100+ offers. I simply pointed out Iowa sent out 100+ offers last year. Actually, Iowa offered 200+ last year.

Iowa reviews tape of players just like every other school. Iowa offers player without having them come to camp or visit the school. In fact, the majority of Iowa offers are sent out with Iowa coaches having only seen tape on a player or having watched a player once.

Don't sit there and act like diligence is unique to the Iowa coaching staff because it's not. Fro schools like Alabama and OSU, recruiting is just as hard as it is at Iowa. They are having to recruit their asses off just to get the players they want because everybody wants the players they recruit. You don't believe they does their best to make sure they are players that can play for them? Please...

As for schools like Nebraska, it's called casting a wider net. It's exactly what Iowa did last year, and it paid dividends. The reason they are doing it again this year is that they have far less scholarships to offer than they did last year. They have almost a third of the available scholarships spoken for already. So I doubt they offer too many more players at this point in the recruiting process. I could be wrong.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

No. You complained about about 100+ offers. I simply pointed out Iowa sent out 100+ offers last year. Actually, Iowa offered 200+ last year.

Iowa reviews tape of players just like every other school. Iowa offers player without having them come to camp or visit the school. In fact, the majority of Iowa offers are sent out with Iowa coaches having only seen tape on a player or having watched a player once.

Don't sit there and act like diligence is unique to the Iowa coaching staff because it's not. Fro schools like Alabama and OSU, recruiting is just as hard as it is at Iowa. They are having to recruit their asses off just to get the players they want because everybody wants the players they recruit. You don't believe they does their best to make sure they are players that can play for them? Please...

As for schools like Nebraska, it's called casting a wider net. It's exactly what Iowa did last year, and it paid dividends. The reason they are doing it again this year is that they have far less scholarships to offer than they did last year. They have almost a third of the available scholarships spoken for already. So I doubt they offer too many more players at this point in the recruiting process. I could be wrong.

I do not think Iowa had 200+ offers last year at this time, I will stand by that. I am not sitting here saying Iowa is the only school that has diligence to recruiting. It is obvious there are many other schools out there that do the same, but comparing Iowa to Bama and OSU is apples and oranges...at this point nobody can make the argument that we are at that tier. Now MSU, Wisconsin (previous coaches) obviously do a great job. Bama and OSU can offer almost any 4-5 star recruit and have name recognition and geographical advantages with many of these recruits...Iowa not so much. I am just saying for a team like Nebby to have 200 offers out at this point (before senior film or even summer evaluation or heck even before track season) is a bit much. As I also said, I do think it is advantageous to cast a wider net like Iowa is doing. But iowa has around 80 offers out with probably about 18-20 spots. The most a team can have is 25 spots, so what then Michigan (with 200+ offers or Nebby with 200)will then have to tell recruits who committed that there is no room for them anymore when there top 25 prospects decide to commit close to signing day....simply pointing out the landscape of the corruption of recruiting today.

 

[danny14]

Well said, milehigh...Iowa had about 208 at the end of the 2016 recruiting season. They add new ones after players commit to other schools. They seem to be very faithful to the commits that accept their offers early. Exceptions might be those that can't meet academic requirements or have problems with the law.

 

[Gopher Dano]

Now this is funny stuff..

Let's all listen to milehighchickenhawk tell us how many offers are "too many", "not enough" and who's throwing shvt at a wall and "seeing what sticks"..

Some keyboard warrior voicing his opinion on how things should be done, talking down upon some of the Big Ten's top programs and staffs recruiting approaches..like he has any clue LOL. Oh the irony.

Best of all, he's a Hawk...backing a Kirk Ferentz recruiting model that appears medicore at best.

Is Kirk still the only Big Ten coach and only coach in America (outside of the SEC) that's against satellite camps?

Taking advice from a fan of a team that is a perennial resident of the 40th-50th spot in the yearly recruiting rankings...lulz

The top programs in the B1G; Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin...will continue to recruit better, year in and year out, than Kirk's program.

Just like last year, and the year before..and the year before...and the year before..

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Best of all, he's a Hawk...backing a Kirk Ferentz recruiting model that appears medicore at best.

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So how do you describe MN, down right pitiful? Have fun praying for another pity bowl.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Now this is funny stuff..

Let's all listen to milehighchickenhawk tell us how many offers are "too many", "not enough" and who's throwing shvt at a wall and "seeing what sticks"..

Some keyboard warrior voicing his opinion on how things should be done, talking down upon some of the Big Ten's top programs and staffs recruiting approaches..like he has any clue LOL. Oh the irony.

Best of all, he's a Hawk...backing a Kirk Ferentz recruiting model that appears medicore at best.

Is Kirk still the only Big Ten coach and only coach in America (outside of the SEC) that's against satellite camps?

Taking advice from a fan of a team that is a perennial resident of the 40th-50th spot in the yearly recruiting rankings...lulz

The top programs in the B1G; Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin...will continue to recruit better, year in and year out, than Kirk's program.

Just like last year, and the year before..and the year before...and the year before..

Woah, you mad bro????
You can keep holding true to your recruiting rankings, but for the rest of us we will just look at standing, rankings, and overall record. According to those Iowa is among the top tier as of right now. Furthermore, Mr. Goofer maybe I do know a thing or two about recruiting. I am a high school football coach at a school who sent 2 kids to D1 programs this year and several other to D2 and NAIA schools. One of our boys actually signed with Nebby and I went on several recruiting tours with these young men and went to about 4 big ten schools this year.....so maybe just maybe I know a thing or two about recruiting. Not to mention our school is in trouble for illegal recruiting at the high school level LOL, I actually took a job in the Denver Metro area for next year because most of our staff was unaware this was happening but long story short, what experiences do you have goofer fan and what the hell would you know about anything being that the Minny sucks at everything

 

[blockm2]

But iowa has around 80 offers out with probably about 18-20 spots. The most a team can have is 25 spots, so what then Michigan (with 200+ offers or Nebby with 200)will then have to tell recruits who committed that there is no room for them anymore when there top 25 prospects decide to commit close to signing day....simply pointing out the landscape of the corruption of recruiting today.

A school with 200+ "offers" isn't really offering a scholarship to 200+ kids at the moment. They are simply getting their name in the kids mind. It's the same way when a kid verbally "commits" to a school that they are not necessarily going to end up going to that school in the end. If one of those 200+ kids wanted to "commit" on the spot, they wouldn't necessarily be promised a scholarship in the end.

The terms that are thrown around are not accurately describing the process as it plays out these days.

While we all might wish people stuck to the meaning of the words that are used, many no longer do. It's far more nebulous these days.

Brady Hoke was on the end of the spectrum that if he offered you a scholarship his word was as good as gold for you to have that scholarship in the end. Then part of the reason he got fired was that many kids that were great as a junior in HS and committed to him ended up not being so good in the end. He honored his word to give them scholarships and lost his job partly because of it.

 

[Gopher Dano]

Woah, you mad bro????
You can keep holding true to your recruiting rankings, but for the rest of us we will just look at standing, rankings, and overall record. According to those Iowa is among the top tier as of right now. Furthermore, Mr. Goofer maybe I do know a thing or two about recruiting. I am a high school football coach at a school who sent 2 kids to D1 programs this year and several other to D2 and NAIA schools. One of our boys actually signed with Nebby and I went on several recruiting tours with these young men and went to about 4 big ten schools this year.....so maybe just maybe I know a thing or two about recruiting. Not to mention our school is in trouble for illegal recruiting at the high school level LOL, I actually took a job in the Denver Metro area for next year because most of our staff was unaware this was happening but long story short, what experiences do you have goofer fan and what the hell would you know about anything being that the Minny sucks at everything

Nice edit - wouldn't wanna leave out the obligatory 'u mad, bro?' comment






LMAO. So correct me if I'm wrong..

By telling us all you're an assistant High School coach in MN, you're attempting to lend credibility that your beliefs in regards to what is the ideal number of offers that should be made by certain Big Ten schools are superior to those of the staff at said school?

So between Urban, Dantonio, Harbaugh, Riley, etc...your opinion here not only holds water, but is best (in your mind, at least)?

All the while maintaining that Iowa's doing their "due diligence" yet in the same breath accusing other top programs, with twice the amount of offers, of "seemingly throwing shvt at a wall and seeing what sticks"....when in fact Iowa essentially lives, year in and year out, between the 35th to 50th placed composite recruiting rankings?

Not to mention, backing a coach THAT ONLY A YEAR AGO YOUR FANBASE WANTED GONE because of his lack of recruiting success and results on the field...a coach that is openly against satellite camps (making him truly the only coach in America outside of the SEC to have that stance) and that's approach to recruiting has been dubbed lazy and ineffective (by your own fanbase, oh how quickly that Rose Bowl season wiped away that sentiment)..

Did I miss anything?

 

[danny14]

I don't really care how many offers each school sends out, but I think they should be true to their word, if anyone accepts an offer. I'm a parent and if I had a son that was very talented, I would expect the school to honor their offer. Exception would be if they say they are only taking so many at a particular position and they have already filled that positional need. Don't offer if you aren't willing to take the kid, when they accept! I'm not a big fan of Urban Meyer or the Buckeyes, but since he been at Ohio State, I haven't seen him offer a kid and pull it back for a higher starred player later in the recruiting process. They have 11 players committed this year and three are 3*. I'm sure he has other offers out, but won't pull those commits back for a 4*. I think he is true to his word with his recruits. That's my take, anyway.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Nice edit - wouldn't wanna leave out the obligatory 'u mad, bro?' comment






LMAO. So correct me if I'm wrong..

By telling us all you're an assistant High School coach in MN, you're attempting to lend credibility that your beliefs in regards to what is the ideal number of offers that should be made by certain Big Ten schools are superior to those of the staff at said school?

So between Urban, Dantonio, Harbaugh, Riley, etc...your opinion here not only holds water, but is best (in your mind, at least)?

All the while maintaining that Iowa's doing their "due diligence" yet in the same breath accusing other top programs, with twice the amount of offers, of "seemingly throwing shvt at a wall and seeing what sticks"....when in fact Iowa essentially lives, year in and year out, between the 35th to 50th placed composite recruiting rankings?

Not to mention, backing a coach THAT ONLY A YEAR AGO YOUR FANBASE WANTED GONE because of his lack of recruiting success and results on the field...a coach that is openly against satellite camps (making him truly the only coach in America outside of the SEC to have that stance) and that's approach to recruiting has been dubbed lazy and ineffective (by your own fanbase, oh how quickly that Rose Bowl season wiped away that sentiment)..

Did I miss anything?

Yes I am a coach in MN because the Denver/Metro area is located directly in the great state of MN...that is why it is called the Mile High city (you know like in my profile name) you are a bright one

 

[LifelongHawk]

Yes I am a coach in MN because the Denver/Metro area is located directly in the great state of MN...that is why it is called the Mile High city (you know like in my profile name) you are a bright one

May help explain the phenomena of trees in northern Iowa bending to the North.

Care to post any observations or experiences on 4 B1G recruiting visits? Or the high school recruiting scandal?

 

[Gopher Dano]

Yes I am a coach in MN because the Denver/Metro area is located directly in the great state of MN...that is why it is called the Mile High city (you know like in my profile name) you are a bright one

typed MN - obviously meant Colorado, my mistake

But I pretty much nailed the rest, amirite?

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

typed MN - obviously meant Colorado, my mistake

But I pretty much nailed the rest, amirite?

Sure Goofer, I accidentally type to two letters simultaneously that are not even close on the keyboard all the time.....

 

[MitchL]

typed MN - obviously meant Colorado, my mistake

But I pretty much nailed the rest, amirite?

Wow, you must be a member of the "DoucheBag Hall Of Fame". amirite?

 

[Gopher Dano]

Sure Goofer, I accidentally type to two letters simultaneously that are not even close on the keyboard all the time.....

HA. Classic. And still, not even a whimper in your own defense?!

C'mon, Coach!

I would only address the grammatical error, too. The way you flap you gums and spew BS on here, I'm not surprised in the least to watch you dance around this.

 

[Gopher Dano]

Wow, you must be a member of the "DoucheBag Hall Of Fame". amirite?

Rustled. (sick burn, btw)

You should sit this next one out.

 

[doughudd]

Nice edit - wouldn't wanna leave out the obligatory 'u mad, bro?' comment






LMAO. So correct me if I'm wrong..

By telling us all you're an assistant High School coach in MN, you're attempting to lend credibility that your beliefs in regards to what is the ideal number of offers that should be made by certain Big Ten schools are superior to those of the staff at said school?

So between Urban, Dantonio, Harbaugh, Riley, etc...your opinion here not only holds water, but is best (in your mind, at least)?

All the while maintaining that Iowa's doing their "due diligence" yet in the same breath accusing other top programs, with twice the amount of offers, of "seemingly throwing shvt at a wall and seeing what sticks"....when in fact Iowa essentially lives, year in and year out, between the 35th to 50th placed composite recruiting rankings?

Not to mention, backing a coach THAT ONLY A YEAR AGO YOUR FANBASE WANTED GONE because of his lack of recruiting success and results on the field...a coach that is openly against satellite camps (making him truly the only coach in America outside of the SEC to have that stance) and that's approach to recruiting has been dubbed lazy and ineffective (by your own fanbase, oh how quickly that Rose Bowl season wiped away that sentiment)..

Did I miss anything?

Yeah you missed. I like how you generalize some message board posters over reaction to ALL the fan base.

 

[Gopher Dano]

Yeah you missed. I like how you generalize some message board posters over reaction to ALL the fan base.

Glad to see you think he's full of shvt, too. Don't become a sheep. Iowa should be kicking and screaming for a Top 25 Class this year.

Get out and push your Brand, Kirk...strike while the iron is hot. The Hawkeyes are as sexy now after that Rose Bowl season as they possibly could hope to be.

I'd be lining up camps all over the southeast and putting that Hawkeye logo is as many SEC region kid's heads as possible.

But he won't.

 

[candid]

Yeah, what happens when you get 15 of your lowest ranked players of the 200 accept offers first, before the big shots? Harbaugh will show you...it won't be a pretty picture!

Mi recruits country wide, they realize the chances on any Calif or Fla player is a bigger reach than a guy from Ill or Pen.

 

[nu2u]

Get out and push your Brand, Kirk

Maybe you should worry more about your morbidly obese coach and whether the recruiting budget will be plundered for team meetings at Golden Corral.

 

[OmahaHawkFan]

I don't want to accidentally get this thread back on topic but according to Pat Hardy this class could be rounded out before fall with close to 2/3 scholly's handed out. With the high level of player accepting seems like the new recruiting efforts, better facility, and nice season are paying off. I mean I know its tough for some of you to accept that things are getting better, because your entire existence is wrapped up in being a message board tough guy who hates Kirk but, they are. I like that Iowa does things cleaner and with more integrity than Michigan or the entire SEC. I like that when a kid commits he knows he will not have that offer pulled away from him.
And, yes, I was once a big "Kirk's got to go" guy.

 

[blockm2]

I like that Iowa does things cleaner and with more integrity than Michigan or the entire SEC. I like that when a kid commits he knows he will not have that offer pulled away from him.
And, yes, I was once a big "Kirk's got to go" guy.

Will you be quite so happy if some of those kids then decommit and end up elsewhere later leaving Iowa high and dry?