Andy Katz breakout star rankings heading into the season
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Man. Setting Kris up with a huge set of expectations. If he doesn’t get to near Keagan numbers some will see it as a failure.
Lots of pressure no doubt and he seems like he's more than ready for it.
I’m not in that camp. Need 16-19 ppg and 8 rpg with good D. He’s not his brother but he’s a really good player.
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When you really good, there is no pressure, talent comes naturally....
He can handle it. The guy is very talented and seems confident in his abilities. This is his time to shine.
Keagan is truly an outstanding player but he did have two really good players (Garza one year, Kris the next) to help him. Kris will not have the same level of help for him. I don't expect Keagan numbers.
Probably not ppg but he'll fill up the sheet elsewhere every night.
He, TP, and Patrick are a pretty formidable core.
This makes no sense. Keegan came off the bench when Garza was starting and Kris barely played with Garza. Keegan on the other hand came off the bench when Garza started. When Keegan started, Kris came off the bench. Kris will be starting this year. Apparently you don’t understand what a breakout player is?
Kris stats were very similar to Keegan’s when you break it down per minutes played.
Kris will have good players to play with and will be the star of the team. I hope this helps you!
Keegan was the help when he played with Garza
Kris is going to be great, and probably have some games where he drops 25-30 points. However, he doesn’t need to be “the man” like Garza was or like Keegan was last year. Pat, Tony, and Payton are all going to be capable of being leading scorers on a given night as well, and it sounds like Rebraca has taken some big steps offensively too. So I agree that Kris won’t likely have Keegan numbers, but it’s because he doesn’t need to (and the team could be better off for it)
What? My point was that Keagan always had a really good player playing with him. It doesn't matter who started. Last year Keagan had the luxury of playing with Kris as his sidekick. Kris doesn't exactly have that person this year. As some have pointed out, Patrick and others might be close but it's not the same level of support that Keagan had. So my point is, we might not see Keagan numbers from Kris.
I don't expect it either. Keagan had the best numbers of any P5 player in the country, perhaps the best season an Iowa player ever had. He had the second highest PER in all of college basketball over the last 12 years. Kris could be B1G player of the year and a 1st team All American and not hit Keegan's numbers.
With that said, Kris's numbers last year were nearly identical to Keegan's first year while playing the same minutes. Keegan's supporting cast last year wasn't much stronger than what Kris will be surrounded by this year. I can see Kris at 19 and 7 this year which would be a phenomenal year for any player.
Weird take. We definitely have guys capable of being that good. Id argue the supporting cast is better this year around Kris than what Keegan had last year.
Disagree. I believe that Patrick will be a 15 and 6 player this year at a minimum. Kris will have more help than Keagan had last year with Patrick, Tony and Payton all capable of scoring in double figures and putting up 20 point every so often.
Sure the current guys are capable, but Garza was player of the year and last year Chris was very good. We'll see who steps up this year who can help Kris.
For Patrick it depends on how physical the game is. I think it's more of a wait and see about Tony and Payton. I like them and think they're good, but I'm not convinced we going to see many 20 point games. If we do, then they've definitely improved.
Agreed. I think he will average quite a bit less than Keegan (16 - 17ppg) but the team will be more balanced and Kris will fill the stat sheet in other ways.
I agree. You could see his confidence grow last year and seemed more and more comfortable with the physicality and the game slowing down. I think he is going to be a really good compliment to Kris, especially offensively if the opposing team focuses on Kris.
Wow, you’re all over place with your point! Keegan had better players to play with than Kris will have, but Kris will not have Keegan numbers?
Again, makes no sense!
if what you said is true, which it’s not! Kris would have better numbers because he doesn’t have the talent surrounding him that Keegan had to play with. Kris and Keegan have almost identical numbers when you look at per minute stats. That being said Kris doesn’t have the talent, so wouldn’t he even have better numbers than Keegan because he has to take more shots, rebound more, shoot more 3’s etc….
Now, if we go off of your flawed point. You think Keegan had great numbers because he played with better talent Surrounding him. You do realize that the only player that Kris won’t be playing with this year besides his twin brother is JBO?
This years roster is most talent and depth Fran has ever had. Now, if you would have said I don’t think Kris will have Keegan numbers because there are 3 other capable scorers in Pmac TP and Sandfort and Kris is a better passer than his brother. I would be with you on your point, but you didn’t!
I don't think Tony is 20 ppg type of player. That is not his value. He can get 10-15 but there are going to be games where he might have 8 pts but have 6 reb, 5 assists, and 3 steals while providing toughness and other intangibles. That is where his value is and really what this team needs. They will score plenty of pts as a team - Fran's team always does. That is why players like Perkins, Rebraca, Ulis and CMac are important to the team's success. They don't have to put up huge scoring numbers to be valuable.
Kris, PMac, and Sandfort are all the types who can get 20+ pt games from time-to-time.
Also, I do believe we are going to see a really strong year from Rebraca. He might not avg double figures but a 9 ppg / 7 reb season seems realistic and would be good numbers for the team.
If he can hit his 3s consistently and finish a bit better around rim with contact look out!
Sometimes a player can score more because they're the only option but other times it can be a negative. I suspect Kris will be the main focus of the defense while with Keagan the defense had to also worry about Kris.
I love this comment "You do realize that the only player that Kris won’t be playing with this year besides his twin brother is JBO?". Are you really downplaying the importance of Keagan and JBO? Those two guys were huge for the team, and especially huge for Keagan. The defender could never leave JBO and Kris. Now look at this year, where Ulis will probably be a starter. I guarantee the defense is going to be leaving Ulis to help, Ulis will need to prove he needs to be defended. There's a reason JT was replaced last year at PT, he couldn't score. So thanks for adding to my point about how Kris won't have some of the benefits that Keagan had.
That all makes sense and I hope it's true. I'm concerned about inconsistent play (by everyone but Kris). I think Kris will be great, I'm just concerned people start comparing his numbers to Keagan's and I don't think it's apple to apples.
On a per 40 minute basis, both Patrick and Payton scored more than Bohannon, and Perkins scored the same amount. I genuinely hope that defenses choose to “focus on” Kris… because that means open threes for Sandfort/Pat and driving lanes for Perkins/Pat/PG’s
Hopefully that happens. JBO didn't score much because he couldn't create his own shot and the defense never left him alone. It would have been great for JBO to be able to do more, but at least his defender wasn't able to help on other players.
I agree with you about comparing numbers to Keagan and I hope fans have realistic outlook on that (I know that is not likely).
I have no expectations that he is going to have a 1st team AA type year that Keagan had (if he does, that is all the better) but I do think he will have a very good all-around year without the kind of ridiculous scoring numbers that Keagan put up.
And I do think the scoring will be more spread out on the team and I do think that is a good thing.
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