Another mass killing. BAU for America.
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My take on the reality of this situation is that "we the people" don't want o deal with the mentally ill, either. We refuse to properly fund MI programs and properly support the victims of MI. Guns are just another factor in this equation....but GD it, don't **** with my rights to bear arms....and I mean any type of arms I can afford...ammunition too. Until limits are set and enforced, the guns will continue to kill innocent victims as the mentally ill are obviously well enough to purchase them. Kind of scary when you think of it that way.
BINGO there seems to be common theme that you and your HROT friends are hitting, the MI. It's not the right to bear arms that is doing this, it's the mentally unstable and their ability to purchase\obtain a weapon.
I get sick of the mental plea though, if they are able to formulate a plan to go to a theater, school, and other places that are "gun free" they should not be able to claim insanity, mental, etc.
Investigators are examining social media postings made by a man, thought to be in his late 20s, who they believe is the suspect in Thursday's shootings at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN. The night before the attack, the alleged shooter appears to have had a conversation with others online about his intentions, the source said.
Then why the frack did those online not say something!!!
Then why the frack did those online not say something!!!
So what I'm understanding from some of you is that you want everyone to hand in their guns and start from scratch? Form lines at certain facilities and get a mental health evaluation. Get a stamp of approval from someone "with no bias" and then you are free to go buy any gun of your choosing and register it will the govt?
Holy crap are you serious. . . He told people and they said nothing?
I'd hate to be those people now. The internet rage machine is going to be fired up against them.
Not sure if serious but...
I would hate to be those people. It will sit in their minds for years that they could have possibly prevented this.
It doesn't have to be that much. I would suggest registering their guns and getting a license. All of which could be done online with no problems if you have committed no crimes and don't have major mental health problems.
We don't have to do a mental health evaluation on everyone, we just have to start with a system that allows mental health professionals to put people on a list (which can be challenged in court) that prevents them from buying a gun.
Because it seems to me that a lot of these people are already on meds and seeing someone for their problems but they get off their meds or something happens and then they go buy the gun and shoot a bunch of people.
The gun control vs. mental health issue is so old and completely predictable. The truth is we need some common sense progress on both fronts. The blind "it's in the constitution" followers drive me nuts. As TJ said himself...
Quite honestly I'm not entirely sure that such a thing will occur to them. But if it does they will have to contemplate it while hiding from the internet rage machine.
Their names, addresses, and phone #'s will likely be on the internet in 72 hours.
I'm glad you added "which could be challenged in court". That is an idea I hadn't thought about and will do so. I just don't like the idea of someone other than a judge (which I understand some still have agenda, bias, etc) taking someone's rights away.
What I find hypocritical are the Dems that use "it's too expensive to hunt down all the illegal aliens or build a wall", but they are ok with spending the ungodly amount to set up a database and enforce all these "common sense" gun laws.
We're having shootings like this every few weeks. We don't have time to not consider the politics.
Please explain how a digital database of gun owners will cost as much as thousands of miles of guarded walls?
We are talking Oregon here folks. They probably already have a zillion gun laws, and I bet the shooter broke most of them. Yes, a zillion and 1 gun laws would have stopped this.
The gun control vs. mental health issue is so old and completely predictable. The truth is we need some common sense progress on both fronts. The blind "it's in the constitution" followers drive me nuts. As TJ said himself...
The constitution is the rules, don't like it, then change the constitution. If you can't change it, then I guess that "common sense" is not so common.
Roll the dice? Do you know what the odds are of this happening to your children? If you really sit around worrying about this then you should never let your kids go near a pool or in a moving vehicle.
Obama wants more kids to go to community colleges. Why does he want American kids to die?!
We should be eliminating all levels of education where there have been shootings. What does that leave? Kindergarten and preschool?
That's all the education you need for a minimum wage job, right?
I can tell you this...I have a 13 year old who hates going to the movie theater now for fear of some whack job with a gun.
Keep your rifles and shotguns. Everything else needs to go.
This is something I've always wondered. Why is it that sporting events don't get shot up? It's a bigger concentration of people than a school or a mall. I wouldn't think it would take much to get guns by security.
The only hope for a meaningful discussion and any action is waiting on the younger generations of kids who have lived with or witnessed in the media the slaughtering of innocents like themselves to become elected officials. It may take a long time but I think eventually something will get accomplished.
How do you suspect the govt goes about getting this data for the database? Pass a law and everyone goes to registeryourgun.org and inputs their serial numbers? You have to enforce these laws because I guarantee you would less than 20% of guns registered by willing participants. That 20% is pry really high.
Would you do door to door searches? $$$$
Would you put grandpa in jail for not registering his shotgun?
$$$$
Would you in prison anyone who has a gun not on the registry? Holy smokes you are talking a lot of money to jail millions of people who would register.
I guess you could save money by not paying all the LEO's that defect from their positions because they won't enforce these laws.
Wow. Hopefully they can track down those that were coaching him and cheering for him.
Well we know that he as asking peoples religions before shooting, we also know that people knew it as going to happen, we also know that they are releasing very little, and we know that this is the hometown of Alek Skarlatos , hero on the French Train . Want to bet this guy is a terrorist and muslim.
