BirdistheWord
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And no one else seems able to challenge any of the starters. Low ceiling group. But we do seem able to attract 4 star talent, yet still a weak spot for this team.
Any sportswriters or others getting first hand reports from spring practice?
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And no one else seems able to challenge any of the starters. Low ceiling group. But we do seem able to attract 4 star talent, yet still a weak spot for this team.
Stanley wasn't bad. He was decent,but he never got better. Which has been the story of Iowa QB's. What drove me nuts about Stanley were the wide open throws he blew that would have been scores.
BirdistheWord
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Stanley was better than not bad. He was good, not great. Durability, completion percentage, TD/INT, wins = pretty good effort
Stanley was good. I was referring to every QB that's arrived on campus since Stanley.
True. Hill should be getting zero reps. I can’t believe that we don’t have better walk-on QBs.
yes they were and that should have been more than enough motiv for last year let a lone this yr. Heard from someone who had an in,,,,,,,that in 7 on 7 drills the offense is really looking pretty good---said there was quite a bit of scheming guys open and that was foreign to the defense at this time.
But I too am one who says i believe what I see come next Sept--I do not pay to watch practice--I have been to many practices in the past and the best QB I ever saw at a practice was Randy R. so what does that tell you?
Got no faith that the Offense will improve significantly until Capt Kirk is gone.
Are you sure? Because we've got a new flavor out that I think you're really going to love.
This could be encouraging news considering another poster said the defense as usual is ahead of the o. Hope it means there is Improvement going on, also appreciate all of the insight
Yep.
The problem with Stanley wasn’t that he was not good(sorry for the double negative.) The problem was that his floor was so low, he literally lost a couple games by himself.
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Don’t remember that but not doubting it. He had a solid cast around him. My favorites were still those 4-5 yard sneaks. Epic.
He had some nice games against OSU, USC, etc.
Hill makes Stanley look like Lamar Jackson
he also won 2 games in Ames and was arguably our best player in both of them--that 3rd and 18 scramble and throw to M-Smith and his leaping grab was an amazing big time play under pressure--they then went down and scored the winning points in that game...
Probably won a few also. The ISU game his first year (5 tds including the game winner to ISM), and the OSU game in 2017 he was damn good. Dude could make some throws that NO Iowa QB ever could make. Banks, Long, anybody. Then he miss guys wide open as well. Still almost 9000yds and 70 TD's career. We go 13-0 last year with Stanley at QB....
Nate told us that there is NO QB development at Iowa. That is why he and others went outside for a QB coach. Nate said Iowa only teaches the Xs and Os and no mechanics etc. The QBs come to Iowa with valid stats but then just languish here it seems. Regression has been pointed out many times over the years. It is not all on the QBs we have brought in.
That is some strange revisionist history right there. Stanley did NOTHING but get better through each year as a starter.
In 2018, part of the struggle was that the whole team suffered from our weakness at LB after Jewell and Niemann graduated.
Then, after 2019, a lot more was heaped on Stanley's plate ... and he responded favorably. What didn't help his cause was that we lost our duo of Fant and Hockenson. Furthermore, while I've always been a big fan of Sarge ... he didn't have the best year handling the competition with Goodson (he followed that up with great play in '20).
Yep. That was the point. He was capable of being very good. Then he’d have a game like at PSU in 2018 that Iowa would have won if they just played with 10 guys on offense, sans QB.
Iowa was lucky to have Nate, but had his floor just been in the basement, and not in the core of the earth, Iowa would have played in a couple more B1G title games.
Other than him being injury prone, where are you catching the drift he won’t be healthy?
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Not exactly sure why you associate Nate with having SUCH a low floor. If you look at his stats and progression I might argue the opposite.
Someone with that low of a floor would be extremely rough coming in, to the point where they probably are not seeing the field until the tail end of their career or rocket up the depth chart.
If you look at his stats for example, he played full time for 3 years and completion percentage went from 56 to 59 to 59.
He always seem to have a strong arm and largely made good decisions. He seemed to struggle some with deep ball accuracy and occasionally missing layup type throws. But that seemed to be consistent through his 3 year stint.
I feel like he had a relatively high floor (look at is soph stats) but somewhat of a low ceiling. He did improve and was a practice squad guy for Vikings but his lack of foot speed and quickness/elusiveness did not help him.
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I would describe them as “good” but not very good or great. His junior and senior year percentages were 2 points higher than Brad Banks heisman runner up year, as an example.
And some additional context:
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Maybe so, but in an offense thats NOT pass heavy dude still threw for 9000 yds and 70 freakin TD's. HAD to be throwing the ball and completing it to somebody, don't you think?
Yep always the revisionist history. Banks had some holes in his game as well, and he had more talent around him then pretty much any Iowa QB ever except Long...
I think these "reports" that the staff feels good about OLine progress is nothing but psychologically trying to build confidence that they can protect CM. Nothing has changed other than they're all a year older. And that certainly didn't hold true as far as improvement from 2022 to 2023.
McNamara is always one hit from being knocked out.
Haven't read or heard one, single thing that makes me think the offense won't be a flaming dumpster fire again.
There is an article about the non development when he signed with Minnesota as a UFA
Dual threat? I’d kill for a single threat QB.
BirdistheWord
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Even “partial threat” qb
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Also, he was at 59 and 59 his last two seasons. If those were 60 and 60 I feel like people would remember things a lot differently. 🤷🏻♂️
Banks had arguably the best season of any Hawkeye QB in history with a passer rating of 157 along with an incredible ability to make plays with his feet gaining 5.2 yards per rush.
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I brought up that season as context as I was being told that Stanley’s 59% completion percentage was not good. Not great or very good either but still good IMO. There are just not that many seasons where Iowa QB’s were 60% and above - there are some of course but Banks was at 57% as an example. It’s not just all about completion percentage, agree, but that is what was singled out by others in my analysis of Stanley.
Yeah. Stanley had good seasons. Banks was just on another level.
His floor happened in games, not seasons.Not exactly sure why you associate Nate with having SUCH a low floor. If you look at his stats and progression I might argue the opposite.
Someone with that low of a floor would be extremely rough coming in, to the point where they probably are not seeing the field until the tail end of their career or rocket up the depth chart.
If you look at his stats for example, he played full time for 3 years and completion percentage went from 56 to 59 to 59.
He always seem to have a strong arm and largely made good decisions. He seemed to struggle some with deep ball accuracy and occasionally missing layup type throws. But that seemed to be consistent through his 3 year stint.
I feel like he had a relatively high floor (look at is soph stats) but somewhat of a low ceiling. He did improve and was a practice squad guy for Vikings but his lack of foot speed and quickness/elusiveness did not help him.
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An example of floor would be 18/49 no TDs and 2 interceptions.
Good QB, but his dips fell a mile. That said, he also had high ceiling.
I’d have killed to have him the last four years. He was a good QB. I’m complaining about his floor, but at the same time aware I just watched an entire season of a guy playing at Nate’s floor nearly every single game.
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It's a message board for opinions and reading some of the stuff coming out of spring practice that's my effing OPINION.
Comprende?
I asked if you had heard anything suggesting he won’t be healthy. You did indeed supply opinions.
A distillation of your answer is no, I just think he’ll get hurt again.
It was a published interview article shortly after he graduated and was picked up by Vikings. That's who.The public. It was mentioned on these boards in the past.
