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AP Rankings?

mtdew_fever

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How is Iowa not ranked in AP? They are definitely better than #24 Oklahoma St and #25 Missouri.
 
My father in law has an AP vote... He put Iowa in and he also has an all America vote he likes King
 
It is week 3, AP rankings do not really mean anything.....besides we still have some work to do before even considering complaining about not being in
 
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I'm more interested what the computer rankings are looking like. Still early for that probably but better than the SEC bias of the coaches and APvoters
 
Big wins over ISU, and FCS ISU. North Texas State this week.
Show me something in Madison. I like 3-0, don't get me wrong, but the schedule isin't exactly a death march.
It's not even a Half Step March. Military joke, apologies in advance.
 
I'm more interested what the computer rankings are looking like. Still early for that probably but better than the SEC bias of the coaches and APvoters
I don't think you'd like what you see, widely respected Sagarin has them at 40. Behind 2 loss Nebby (30) and 1 loss Wisky (12).
 
Ha! Hardly pissed off. Just noting the final 2 AP ranked teams aren't good.

Missouri - one could argue their 3 wins are much less impressive than Iowa's.
Oklahoma St - again, wins vs very poor teams


I'm sure the AP voters just wanted to p/ss you off.
 
Ha! Hardly pissed off. Just noting the final 2 AP ranked teams aren't good.

Missouri - one could argue their 3 wins are much less impressive than Iowa's.
Oklahoma St - again, wins vs very poor teams

Actually, I think the AP voters are arguing that the hawks 3 wins are not very impressive.
 
The one I don't understand is Wisconsin. They got killed against Alabama and then beat a couple of bad teams. They are ranked simply because of the past not because of the current team.
 
I also agree with Missouri and Oklahoma State. They haven't shown they are top 25 yet either. But then again I don't think Iowa has either.
 
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The one I don't understand is Wisconsin. They got killed against Alabama and then beat a couple of bad teams. They are ranked simply because of the past not because of the current team.


Wisconsin is the scalp we need to get ranked.
 
The one I don't understand is Wisconsin. They got killed against Alabama and then beat a couple of bad teams. They are ranked simply because of the past not because of the current team.

I also agree with Missouri and Oklahoma State. They haven't shown they are top 25 yet either. But then again I don't think Iowa has either.

And this is why a lot of people would like polls to be released only after we're at least a few weeks into the season. It's tough for poll voters to start from scratch every week and rank teams based on their body of work and current performance. Most of them are going to start with what they voted in the last poll, and just adjust based on the most recent week's game. There will never be a perfect ranking system, unfortunately, but I can see how waiting until teams have a few games played can help get the pre-season expectations out of everyone's mind before the voting commences.
 
Actually, I think the AP voters are arguing that the hawks 3 wins are not very impressive.

You're wrong. JK, pun intended. But I think you are wrong. Polls are still largely a representation of what was perceived before the 3 weeks of football. Mizzou is a classic example of this. They won 9 - 6 at home vs. UConn where UConn decided to go for the win rather than play for OT.
 
Big wins over ISU, and FCS ISU. North Texas State this week.
Show me something in Madison. I like 3-0, don't get me wrong, but the schedule isin't exactly a death march.

Don't get me wrong because I don't think iowa should be ranked but if tough scheduling is your criteria I have to side with the guy that says were better than oklahoma st and mizzou

Se Missouri st
Arkansas st
Uconn
C michigan
C arkansas
Texas San antonio
 
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Dawg, I do hold SOS as criteria. Looking at the 3 teams in discussion, all schedules are weak. I'd give Iowa a nod with the Pitt W. Let a few weeks
play out. We'll see if Iowa belongs.
 
I don't think you'd like what you see, widely respected Sagarin has them at 40. Behind 2 loss Nebby (30) and 1 loss Wisky (12).


Sagarin also has West Virginia at #16 - those impressive wins at home against Georgia Southern and Liberty (SOS 115) really carry some weight, Not the source that anyone should be utilizing to prove anything concerning relative rankings at this juncture.
 
I am not that concerned about rankings...

I am more concerned that our QB is knocked out for a time...

That would not have a happy ending...

If Iowa wins in Madison...people will perk up...
 
Sagarin also has West Virginia at #16 - those impressive wins at home against Georgia Southern and Liberty (SOS 115) really carry some weight, Not the source that anyone should be utilizing to prove anything concerning relative rankings at this juncture.

kind of like the AP or Coaches poll.
 
We got 10 votes. We are the 38th ranked team in the country.
Miami is 37th
Kansas State is 39th
 
I hate how stubborn some of the voters are about the rankings. Auburn is ahead of us. Who the hell could look at Auburn and be like, yea, they're pretty good, top 25 for sure!
 
Ha! Hardly pissed off. Just noting the final 2 AP ranked teams aren't good.

Missouri - one could argue their 3 wins are much less impressive than Iowa's.
Oklahoma St - again, wins vs very poor teams

When your team has been good and/or ranked in previous years and you haven't yet lost this year, that's why Missouri and Okie State are ranked. When you've been out of the rankings for a while (like Iowa has), you have to win some games where you aren't favored to break through. Iowa wins at North Texas and at Madison, they get ranked.
 
Why do people even really care about rankings this early? Body of work for Iowa isn't totally impressive to warrant a ranking at this point. How about Iowa goes through Big Ten schedule without losing a home game and see how we stack up on the road first.
 
The only reason early rankings help is they get you exposure on TV which helps recruiting IMO.
 
Ha! Hardly pissed off. Just noting the final 2 AP ranked teams aren't good.

Missouri - one could argue their 3 wins are much less impressive than Iowa's.
Oklahoma St - again, wins vs very poor teams
Well, then perhaps your best course should be to overreact and wish that neither of those teams win another game the rest of the season............let me know how it works out.
 
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We might sneak in with a win this week and some of the later ranked teams losing. Im sure they would like a ranked matchup with Wisky next week.
 
We might sneak in with a win this week and some of the later ranked teams losing. Im sure they would like a ranked matchup with Wisky next week.

I can't conceive of any Iowa performance against UNT that would be good enough to leapfrog the total of 13 teams it would be required to pass to go from "#38" to #25. Even if half of them lose (which is conceivable, looking at their schedules), there are too many voters we'd have to convince to rank us for the first time.

I think a solid or better performance will get us up to within the top 5 getting votes (26-30).
 
If Iowa wins at Wisconsin then I would say pretty good chance to be ranked. No way they are after against NT. There would have to be a ton of teams lose ahead of us in some major upsets for that to happen. Week 4 is typically a weak scheduling week as teams gear up for the conference season. I would doubt Iowa gains much ground in gaining votes this week even if they win 55-0
 
An Iowa win vs. Wisconsin to go 5-0 and Iowa is top 20. Is this a top 20 team? They are fun to watch and a good story so far but I think their current rank isn't far off. I'd say Iowa is probably around the 30th best team in the nation this season.
 
Sagarin also has West Virginia at #16 - those impressive wins at home against Georgia Southern and Liberty (SOS 115) really carry some weight, Not the source that anyone should be utilizing to prove anything concerning relative rankings at this juncture.
I don't need the ins and outs of the Sagarin pole, somebody wanted the know what the computer said and I simply answered the question.
 
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