Truer words have never been spoken.The Don really doesn't want to win the nomination...he is trying desperately to get out.
Give them tasers, less lethal but still effective.
Are you sure that campus doesn't have armed security? Iowa and Kirkwood has it so my expectation is this school did too.There's a deterrent effect. These shootings don't generally happen at locations that have armed security. But it is fun to call Trump stupid.
Once again the left "thinks" they can protect everyone. At some point you have to protect yourself and not wait for help.Pretty sad that the Republican solution to all these shootings is to ask people to fight the crime themselves.
The former president of an Oregon community college where a gunman opened fire, killing at least 10 people and wounding seven others, says the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn't armed.Are you sure that campus doesn't have armed security? Iowa and Kirkwood has it so my expectation is this school did too.
Edit, I guess you are right:
http://www.nytimes.com/live/shootin...r-armed-campus-security-guards-was-dismissed/
What about arming untrained civilians to fight killers sounds like a good idea to you?Once again the left "thinks" they can protect everyone. At some point you have to protect yourself and not wait for help.
Yet another reason why Iowa is a great place to live.The former president of an Oregon community college where a gunman opened fire, killing at least 10 people and wounding seven others, says the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn't armed.
Not that this is my favorite plan, but surely you would concede that any government plan that involved giving weapons to teachers would also produce some sort of mandatory training time. Probably also with a pay bump and yearly retreats and an inservice day and drills run during English class.What about arming untrained civilians to fight killers sounds like a good idea to you?
Do you think crazy bastards that plan on dying really care if there are armed guards. I mean how many of the people that do mass shootings liveThere's a deterrent effect. These shootings don't generally happen at locations that have armed security. But it is fun to call Trump stupid.
Do you think crazy bastards that plan on dying really care if there are armed guards. I mean how many of the people that do mass shootings live
What about arming untrained civilians to fight killers sounds like a good idea to you?
I noted when I checked out the Kirkwood security website that a permit doesn't allow anyone to get around their strict no weapon policy. (Kirkwood is the local community college in Iowa City.)BTW, any teacher who wanted to be armed at UCC could have concealed-carried. Of course, the shooter killed the teacher in his classroom so I doubt it would have done much good.
In fact, John Parker, a 36-year-old Army veteran, was armed and on campus along with other armed students at the time of the shooting. They didn't move to help because law enforcement was already on the scene and they knew that they would be targeted it they tried to provide aid.
I noted when I checked out the Kirkwood security website that a permit doesn't allow anyone to get around their strict no weapon policy. (Kirkwood is the local community college in Iowa City.)
My office doesn't allow cc on premises, I leave mine in my vehicle. I obey the law... see how that works, those that obey are the ones in jeopardy.Oregon law allows concealed carry just about everywhere. Colleges can exclude them from classrooms but not the campus. I doubt the carriers bother to disarm when they walk into a building.
Where did I say untrained? Have always been an advocate for getting and staying trained, keep your own ideas to yourself.What about arming untrained civilians to fight killers sounds like a good idea to you?
Acctually they do, that's why they don't attack gun shows, cop conventions, NrA rallies...Do you think crazy bastards that plan on dying really care if there are armed guards. I mean how many of the people that do mass shootings live
Because they generally buy there guns at gun shows. And. There have been shootings at military institutions, so there's that.Acctually they do, that's why they don't attack gun shows, cop conventions, NrA rallies...
That's a pretty fair point.Because they generally buy there guns at gun shows. And. There have been shootings at military institutions, so there's that.
Unarmed military, nice on the bases that troops can't carry. There's that too...Because they generally buy there guns at gun shows. And. There have been shootings at military institutions, so there's that.
Are you kidding? Average citizen pulls his constitutionally protected firearm and puts 3 or 4 rounds into the crazed mass killer saving dozens. Makes you want to fap.What about arming untrained civilians to fight killers sounds like a good idea to you?
There's a deterrent effect. These shootings don't generally happen at locations that have armed security. .
Wow. There is the liberal mantra right there. All you guys want is for people depended on the govt. Its sick.Pretty sad that the Republican solution to all these shootings is to ask people to fight the crime themselves.
My office doesn't allow cc on premises, I leave mine in my vehicle. I obey the law... see how that works, those that obey are the ones in jeopardy.
Arming teachers does work.
Like an Army base? Or a Naval facility?
Give them tasers, less lethal but still effective.
A taser knife. I like it!So you want them to bring a knife to a gun fight?
Are you kidding ME? The Conservative solution to gun violence is to make it easier for all to get their hands on guns and tell ordinary citizens that they should act as their own police force? That's basically throwing your hands up and admitting that you don't have a solution.Are you kidding? Average citizen pulls his constitutionally protected firearm and puts 3 or 4 rounds into the crazed mass killer saving dozens. Makes you want to fap.
I have a hard time buying into the argument that military bases are soft targets. I hear over and over that these shooters are looking for the most vulnerable targets possible. Problem is that a military base filled with trained soldiers wouldn't seem to fit that description. Even in the absence of guns, these are still highly trained people in the art of tactical warfare. I think soft targets have less to do with these shootings than some think.Huh? Currently guns are not allowed on US domestic military bases. Those are soft targets. There is a bill in the works to change that.http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...bill-could-lift-restrictions-on-military-guns