At least one NFL scout didn’t sugarcoat his opinions on Petras and the iowa offense

[Tenacious E]

Was reading an article on the lions’ draft and they had this to say about Laporta, which Hawkeye fans already knew:

“He has very good hands. He’s got to get better as a blocker but he’s more than willing as a blocker. He had a shitty quarterback. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up being one of the better tight ends if not the best in this class.”

“Runs excellent routes and has excellent hands. Great feel. Will be a play-making tight end. That offense was terrible, but you can tell he is a good athlete. He’s a starter based on what’s playing in the league, for sure.”

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[Bank of Hawk]

A swing and a home run by that writer

 

[Moral]

That writer clearly has not seen Petras in practice.

 

[Tenacious E]

That writer clearly has not seen Petras in practice.

Or oglesby.

 

[Moral]

Or oglesby.

The feel good story of a guy working to find his shot, but it never happens.

 

[hawkeye54545]

That's football.

But what's the upside?

 

[Tenacious E]

The feel good story of a guy working to find his shot, but it never happens.

I always read he was a freaky good shooter in practice, but when the lights came on during the game, it didn’t translate.

 

[DropitlikeitsHawk]

Also the sky is blue.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

The Iowa offense is offensive....shocked.

 

[BubsFinn]

Did that guy not see how many games we won in 2021?

 

[bdg8]

Shitty is being too kind

 

[WrigleyHawkeye20]

I feel kind of bad for Spencer. He’s clearly a bad QB and he’ll forever be remembered as one. But it’s not his fault the coaches trotted him out there for three years without finding a more capable replacement. And, for the most part, he had terrible OL and WR play, which made him look that much worse.

Seems like a great kid. So I’m sure he’ll turn out fine. Just feel for him that he’ll be looked at mostly negatively in the context of Iowa football history.

 

[BubsFinn]

I feel kind of bad for Spencer. He’s clearly a bad QB and he’ll forever be remembered as one. But it’s not his fault the coaches trotted him out there for three years without finding a more capable replacement. And, for the most part, he had terrible OL and WR play, which made him look that much worse.

Seems like a great kid. So I’m sure he’ll turn out fine. Just feel for him that he’ll be looked at mostly negatively in the context of Iowa football history.

It would be 100% wrong to blame Spencer. He did everything his coaches asked of him. I really think he should be remembered as a great Hawkeye. Like you said, he seems like a great kid. It's not his fault he had a lineman trying to teach him how to play quarterback. It's not his fault the coaches failed in recruiting guys to play next to him.
Spencer Petras is the sacrificial lamb in the Brian Ferentz experiment.

 

[millah_22]

I feel kind of bad for Spencer. He’s clearly a bad QB and he’ll forever be remembered as one. But it’s not his fault the coaches trotted him out there for three years without finding a more capable replacement. And, for the most part, he had terrible OL and WR play, which made him look that much worse.

Seems like a great kid. So I’m sure he’ll turn out fine. Just feel for him that he’ll be looked at mostly negatively in the context of Iowa football history.

Just wait until next year when we are begging for Petras to come back in.

 

[Mister Hawkeyes]

Just wait until next year when we are begging for Petras to come back in.

If we get to a point where the fans are begging to see Petras again, it will be the end of the Ferentz era.

 

[Tenacious E]

It would be 100% wrong to blame Spencer. He did everything his coaches asked of him. I really think he should be remembered as a great Hawkeye. Like you said, he seems like a great kid. It's not his fault he had a lineman trying to teach him how to play quarterback. It's not his fault the coaches failed in recruiting guys to play next to him.
Spencer Petras is the sacrificial lamb in the Brian Ferentz experiment.

Counterpoint is that they recruited someone with more passing yards than Jared Goff or Dan Fouts at the same high school, and it is reasonable to expect him to target pass catchers with a modicum of accuracy.

 

[Bank of Hawk]

It would be 100% wrong to blame Spencer. He did everything his coaches asked of him. I really think he should be remembered as a great Hawkeye. Like you said, he seems like a great kid. It's not his fault he had a lineman trying to teach him how to play quarterback. It's not his fault the coaches failed in recruiting guys to play next to him.
Spencer Petras is the sacrificial lamb in the Brian Ferentz experiment.

Kirk loved him some Spencer. Brian seemed like he wanted to move on from Spencer multiple times but his father has final say. They’ll have to find a new Sacramento Lamb next season.

 

[BubsFinn]

Counterpoint is that they recruited someone with more passing yards than Jared Goff or Dan Fouts at the same high school, and it is reasonable to expect him to target pass catchers with a modicum of accuracy.

Sure, but you can't expect anyone to progress as a college quarterback without coaches that know how to develop college quarterbacks. Spencer was making bad throws for three years and no one knew how to teach him how to make better throws. It didn't help that his offensive lines were among the worst in the Ferentz era yet the play calling didn't adjust. They just sent him out there to get pounded. They kept pretending that what they were doing was eventually going to work, despite the abysmal results.
Spencer did the best he could with what he had to work with, which was a steaming pile of dogs***.

 

[Tom Paris]

It would be 100% wrong to blame Spencer. He did everything his coaches asked of him. I really think he should be remembered as a great Hawkeye. Like you said, he seems like a great kid. It's not his fault he had a lineman trying to teach him how to play quarterback. It's not his fault the coaches failed in recruiting guys to play next to him.
Spencer Petras is the sacrificial lamb in the Brian Ferentz experiment.

You mean "Sacramento Lamb".

 

[Tenacious E]

Sure, but you can't expect anyone to progress as a college quarterback without coaches that know how to develop college quarterbacks. Spencer was making bad throws for three years and no one knew how to teach him how to make better throws. It didn't help that his offensive lines were among the worst in the Ferentz era yet the play calling didn't adjust. They just sent him out there to get pounded. They kept pretending that what they were doing was eventually going to work, despite the abysmal results.
Spencer did the best he could with what he had to work with, which was a steaming pile of dogs***.

It was a group effort being that bad for sure, but there was a huge drop off from Stanley, with much of the rest of the team/coaching remaining the same.

 

[millah_22]

If we get to a point where the fans are begging to see Petras again, it will be the end of the Ferentz era.

I'll believe that when i see it.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Petras is a great kid. Still helping at practices. He was recently at the casino helping raise money for wounded warriors. He will be successful wherever he lands…

 

[joelbc1]

Sure, but you can't expect anyone to progress as a college quarterback without coaches that know how to develop college quarterbacks. Spencer was making bad throws for three years and no one knew how to teach him how to make better throws. It didn't help that his offensive lines were among the worst in the Ferentz era yet the play calling didn't adjust. They just sent him out there to get pounded. They kept pretending that what they were doing was eventually going to work, despite the abysmal results.
Spencer did the best he could with what he had to work with, which was a steaming pile of dogs***.

The offensive line was the worst since the days of FXL...don’t sugar coat the issue. The o-line was not B10 caliber....not even close.
If the o-line is no better, it makes no difference who the QBs is...or the running backs...or the wide receivers.
There are 5 positions that will make a difference this year. Defensively and special team-wise, this years team will be fine but it has to have a little help from the offense (line).

 

[lucas80]

Petras is a great kid. Still helping at practices. He was recently at the casino helping raise money for wounded warriors. He will be successful wherever he lands…

I do give him credit for standing in front of the media and not making excuses or pointing fingers. He could have pretty easily.
To the whose fault is it question, I’d say 80/20 goes to the staff.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Say what you want about Petra's, but he was a terrible QB.

 

[Tenacious E]

Say what you want about Petra's, but he was a terrible QB.

Wanna know how I know you are posting from an iphone? It always turns Petras into Petra's.

 

[jaxhawk06]

Petras is a great kid. Still helping at practices. He was recently at the casino helping raise money for wounded warriors. He will be successful wherever he lands…

I don't know what his plans are, but I hope he turns out to be a great coach. Would be a good way to get some redemption on his football career

 

[Thunderlips71]

That writer clearly has not seen Petras in practice.

 

[the24fan]

What this does besides confirming Spencer was awful:
1. Coaching apparently cannot identify and develop the QB position
2. Recruiting is terrible at the QB position
3. Oh and Spencer was awful

 

[nu2u]

Kirk loved him some Spencer. Brian seemed like he wanted to move on from Spencer multiple times but his father has final say.

I sometimes wondered about this. It seems cedible to me that Brian would have yanked Petras early on but was over-ruled. If true, I blame Brian as well. If you are the OC and prohibited from implementing your offense, you do the honorble thing and take a new job at the end of the season. The family relationship obviously complicated matters.

 

[cmhawks99]

Sure, but you can't expect anyone to progress as a college quarterback without coaches that know how to develop college quarterbacks. Spencer was making bad throws for three years and no one knew how to teach him how to make better throws. It didn't help that his offensive lines were among the worst in the Ferentz era yet the play calling didn't adjust. They just sent him out there to get pounded. They kept pretending that what they were doing was eventually going to work, despite the abysmal results.
Spencer did the best he could with what he had to work with, which was a steaming pile of dogs***.

Hmmmm, seems like an extreme over simplification!?

Their real crime was not bringing in a Portal QB. They didn’t have a good, ready QB on the roster….

I know, I know that doesn’t travel near as well as “Bad Ole’ Ferentz’”….LOL

 

[cmhawks99]

I sometimes wondered about this. It seems cedible to me that Brian would have yanked Petras early on but was over-ruled. If true, I blame Brian as well. If you are the OC and prohibited from implementing your offense, you do the honorble thing and take a new job at the end of the season. The family relationship obviously complicated matters.

LOL….yep because that’s what KOK did years back?! Or most coaches as far as that goes…?!

Peoples talking about honor on an anonymous message board is always good for a laugh!

 

[jasonrann]

Or oglesby.

Too soon.

 

[cmhawks99]

What this does besides confirming Spencer was awful:
1. Coaching apparently cannot identify and develop the QB position
2. Recruiting is terrible at the QB position
3. Oh and Spencer was awful

1) until it wasn’t…

2) and also until it wasn’t

3) and yes, Spencer and our rostered QBs weren’t good, nor were the WRs or the OL !

That’s the trifecta….doesn’t have to be more than, that!

 

[lucas80]

Or oglesby.

Oh, look, we found the guy who doesn’t understand team defense and good passing.

 

[lucas80]

Link to any NFL scout or evaluator who did sugarcoat Iowa’s offense?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Just wait until next year when we are begging for Petras to come back in.

I will beg for literally anyone else on the team to play qb should all the other qbs be deemed unable to perform…no offense to SP…(I didn’t even try that)

 

[Tenacious E]

Oh, look, we found the guy who doesn’t understand team defense and good passing.

What's your point? Mine was that Oglesby was purportedly a lights out shooter during practice, but couldn't shoot consistently during games when the lights came on. But break it down for me how I don't understand team defense and good passing.

 

[Tenacious E]

Link to any NFL scout or evaluator who did sugarcoat Iowa’s offense?

Link to any non-anonymous scout or evaluator who said Petras was a "shitty quarterback"?

 

[torbee]

Petras is a serviceable quarterback if given a perfectly clean, long-lasting pocket. Give him any modicum of pressure and he turns to shit in an instant.

Given Iowa's mediocre and inconsistent offensive line play, that was a perfect storm for a totally inept offense.

Could Brian maybe call things better to overcome those deficiencies? Maybe a little. But I don't think even the best OC in the world could have made much lemonade out of Iowa's basket of lemons last year.

What is funny is I think Iowa is likely to look at least average on offense this year with a good QB, a slightly better line and a couple of legit receivers. And all the armchair QBs will be pumping their chests about how Brian "finally listened!" to their complaints. BAU.