How did all those places survive back when Iowa played 11 games a season and occasionally had 5 home games? Do the hotels' survival rest upon that 7th game? My experience is that most of them are nearly booked most weekends irrespective of football season.
How did all those places survive back when Iowa played 11 games a season and occasionally had 5 home games? Do the hotels' survival rest upon that 7th game? My experience is that most of them are nearly booked most weekends irrespective of football season.
I have suggested this in other threads about this topic: schedule a big-name act for a concert on the September Saturday the Hawks have their road obligation for a home/home series. You won't get 70000 people there but 40,000 is a possibility for a big name. I saw Billy Joel and Elton John at Ames in 94. The place was packed. Now that may be a little more high-end than they could line up or maybe not. But a big-name act that attracts 40,000 people paying 80-100 bucks would bring in 3-4 mil. And they could sell (gasp) beer at the concert. 25,000 beers at 8 bucks a piece, not to mention sodas and food would get close to a mil. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility to think they could generate as much revenue from the concert as they would from the Middle Tennessee game. I would also wager more people would come from a greater distance to see a one-time show if the act was prominent enough. There may actually be a bigger demand for hotel rooms than for a football game.
Meanwhile, Iowa could have a chance to play somewhere that recruits would be able to see them more easily. Texas A&M, TCU, Georgia Tech, Mississippi, maybe even UT.
Things are almost never a "this is the only way this can work" scenario.
Meanwhile, Iowa could have a chance to play somewhere that recruits would be able to see them more easily. Texas A&M, TCU, Georgia Tech, Mississippi, maybe even UT.
Things are almost never a "this is the only way this can work" scenario.
We? From your posts doesn’t look like your Iowa fan. But then again remember you posting you stopped watching Iowa and the “fighting ferentzs” years ago. Which then begs the question how would you know or care if stopped watching years ago?
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First off we were simply discussing these issues, not saying that they were set in stone. I do love though how people bring stuff like this up, like just because you want to book these functions, that they're lining up to fill the slots that your trying to fill, on a specific weekend. I live in KC, which is I dare say a lot bigger then Iowa City, and few of the big name acts stop here. Now they do a pretty good job keeping the Sprint Center full of acts in the 10 to 13K range but football type venue mega tours don't stop that often here, let alone somewhere like Iowa City.
I think if there was a concert in Kinnick not all the revenue would go to the Athletic Dept. probably a sum amount for hosting but promoters and whom ever else have their hands in it get a piece of the pie. As for Texas A & M, Texas or Mississippi don’t think the draw of playing Iowa is appealing unless we are ranked. Texas playing Maryland cause DC good place to recruit.
Lastly for arguments sake of needing another solid team for resume or SOS. 2015 says if you are in big 10 win all your games in conference all that matters is you win non conference too no matter who it is. Win them all and you make the playoffs. As herbstreidt said last season if Ohio st played some no name team instead of OU they would have made playoffs over Bama even with bad Iowa loss. So yeah some years it helps some years it doesn’t with non conference teams.
Kenny Chesney is going to be at Arrowhead next Saturday. Not my genre of music but he is a big act. Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam are at Wrigley end of the month. And before you say, "yes, because it is Chicago", acts will go to venues if they are guaranteed x amount of money. Paul McCartney played in Des Moines a year ago. Did you miss the part where Elton John and Billy Joel played in Ames? There have been a lot of marquee shows at CHA over the years. It is very do-able.
And yes, the vast majority of people on this forum and especially the Lounge are adamant that Iowa MUST have seven home games every year. And they are going to get their wish indefinitely because as much as I would like to see a better OOC opponent, it ain't happening. But we can talk what-ifs anyway.
OBTW-that Ames concert in 94 drew over 52,000 people and brought in 2.4 mi. What do you suppose a big-name act could rake in in 2020?
Again, I never said it couldn't happen. Just pointing out that it is promblematic trying to fill that open date yearly with a tour that will fill that spot on that perticular open date. Picking a few concerts that played around the country doesn't prove your point at all IMHO. Yes like CHA we have plenty of concerts and events in the Sprint Center, but that 12 to 15K people is not filling a football stadium. For the record, I'm not against what your saying, just not sure this would be a regular option on an annual basis.
Each home game generates about $15 Million dollars to the local community. (Source ICCCVB) Restaurants, hotels, ticket sales etc. Many of the small businesses depend on these 7 weekends to make ends meet. It is critical to the local economy. To arbitrarily give up $15 million dollars is just plain stupid.
Lotta people confusing the terms entitlement with necessity and excuses with reasons.
Maybe the next AD will have the stones to go 2 on, 2 off with ISU so the impossible scheduling riddle can be solved.
It's been said many times before, but the next non-ISU P5 opponent Barta schedules will be his first. Pitt and Zona were both done under Bowlsby.
Maybe the next AD will have the stones to go 2 on, 2 off with ISU so the impossible scheduling riddle can be solved.
It's been said many times before, but the next non-ISU P5 opponent Barta schedules will be his first. Pitt and Zona were both done under Bowlsby.
Then they should be doing it every 3-5 years.
Enough with the excuses.
And if it means downgrading the ISwho series to 2 years on and 2 years off then make it happen.
Scheduling "up" doesn't always work out btw. Schedules are set years in advance. Wisconsin thought they were challenging themselves be playing a home and home with BYU... the at BYU being last season. BYU ended up being the worst team in like 40 years for that school. It hurt their SOS more than anything AND they gave up a home game to play there.
There are a lot of schools taking on a lot of debt to keep up with the Joneses. Iowa isn't, revenue stream is pretty vital. Thank you suterman for the facts the op requested. As far as 12 goes, 'we' cracks me up every time. That glass is half empty, leaking and has a crack in it. Keep it up.
Camp Randall is also bigger than Kinnick and they take in the equivalent of a 7th Iowa game over the course of 6 home games.
It wouldn't have to be every year. If they kept Clown U an every-year deal, they would play a road game every other year. If they moved MooU to 2 on, 2 off, the away P5 game would happen every 4 years. And the concert I attended had 52000 people there. They absolutely could pull it off every 2-4 years. Like I said, it ain't happening as long as KF and GB are in charge of scheduling. It will be interesting to see what happens when BF is the head guy.
I honestly think our best bet with Barta is once very 5-6 years to play a neutral site game where we get revenue unlike past years at soldier where NIU is home team. Key is finding team with open date and one who wants to do it one year. As long as Barta and Pollard are ADs so will the Iowa isu game. Pollard has never scheduled another power 5 team minus Iowa. Too easy and convenient for both.
I hold out hope pressure comes at some point from boosters to turn this back into the hawks again someday
Easy math and let's just put it this way, would you rather have $10 or $5 right now? More $$$$ > Less $$$$
Hell ya, every from Sioux City truck it on over here and camp out in IC just for the party!!!
As stated above, they survived when we used to play 6 home games. Some years 5.
I doubt 1 home game loss is going to sink them.
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An occasional neutral site game agree. But why give up income (for all parties) on a regular basis?
How about the Iowa AD tells the Iowa State AD that Iowa will only continue the Iowa/isu annual game if they play two games in Kinnick to every one game at Jack Trice, or just play the game two out of every four years. That would allow Iowa more flexibility to schedule other opponents and/or play neutral site games. Quite frankly, isu needs the Iowa game much, much more than Iowa does.
Let's get real hear, the majority/average fan cares little about the Sear's Director Cup standings. Rather, they care about football & men's basketball and to a lesser degree you can lump wrestling, women's basketball, and baseball into the 2nd tier of fan interest. Other non-revenue sports have minimal followings of just generally family/friends.
According to various reports, it sounds like Iowa had/or at least was planning a neutral site game vs. Notre Dame at Soldier Field. However, isu didn't agree to not play Iowa for one year. If true, just another reason to hate the clones.
If Iowa doesn't spend on recruiting/facilities, etc. they won't even have a chance of keeping up with the "big boys"; in which case, Iowa would just be another Iowa State type school.
The back porch revival thing in 2016 broke even I believe, also don't know if it was an athletic department thing or a university thing
More and more going up. Just around Coral Ridge mall area some big ones have gone up. What was the last year we only had 5 home games?
I am sure the University itself is more a driver to the economy than football by far.
Arkansas and Bielema were all in playing Iowa at Arrowhead. It was Iowa who drug their feet
Don't think it was an athletic department thing. Last year same group who set it up had a concert at Newton Speedway and they had Metallica. I want to say Dallas Clark and Ashton Kutcher were involved with it.
