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Awful looking 737 crash in South Korea

Pilot came in way too hot. Should have had that plane at almost a stall condition when hitting the ground. Couldn’t tell if the reverse thrust was activated or not.
Dude a 737 lands at 150 knots flaps full. It would be absurd to think what a zero flap configuration landing looks like.
 
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It also looks like he ate up half the runway before getting down. Still way to hot on approach you have to try and land that thing like a glider as best you can.
If they had thrust left on one engine I’m going to lean on pilot error in decision making. However I’m heavily leaning towards catastrophic failure and picking the best pavement possible (as it stands right now).

I’ve landed zero flaps in a transport category plane before (ORD, plenty of runway) Had gear and thrust reversers though lol. Came in pretty hot. Can’t imagine no brakes or thrust reversers.
 
Dude a 737 lands at 150 knots flaps full. It would be absurd to think what a zero flap configuration landing looks like.
This seems like a situation where you are going to have a ton of knowledge to offer but I'm afraid you're headed for rev limiter.




Take a breather bro, imagine a nice set of breast, lower that BP...


What is the foam people are talking about? My uneducated takeaway is there is some form of foam an airport can spray to slow a plane and or reduce flammability?
 
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This seems like a situation where you are going to have a ton of knowledge to offer but I'm afraid you're headed for rev limiter.




Take a breather bro, imagine a nice set of breast, lower that BP...


What is the foam people are talking about? My uneducated takeaway is there is some form of foam an airport can spray to slow a plane and or reduce flammability?
It’s called EMAS I think you’re referring too? A lot of US airports have it. It’s breakaway concrete essential. Slows planes down fast! They actually have to hammer home the idea to pilots to not aim away from it and let the plane roll into it. (Yes Southwest has veered away before haha, instinct to). There is flame retardant foam but this looks like a zero time type of situation.

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It’s called EMAS I think you’re referring too? A lot of US airports have it. It’s breakaway concrete essential. Slows planes down fast! They actually have to hammer home the idea to pilots to not aim away from it and let the plane roll into it. (Yes Southwest has veered away before haha, instinct to). There is flame retardant foam but this looks like a zero time type of situation.

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Ok, dumb question, what percentage of flights are you the pilot a little sketched out about? Is the problem T/O or landing? ( I'm guessing L, gravity is undefeated) Is it always weather or certain landing strips? What percent of Flight attendants would actually bang if a decent looking dude had the guts to confidently/casually hit on them? Why is it always the 737? If I don't give a shit about comfort but want to make sure my flight will be where it is supposed to be, who is the best carrier? ( I think I incorrectly guessed United because Ohare gets wrecked) Top 3 food airports, and restaurants. ( shout out Houston burrito shack) If I am going to crash, front of plane, back? Window?


Thanks brother.
 
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Ok, dumb question, what percentage of flights are you the pilot a little sketched out about?
I’d say 2% but that’s usually for like .5% of that given flight
Is the problem T/O or landing? ( I'm guessing L, gravity is undefeated)
Usually landing in thunderstorms in the area
Is it always weather or certain landing strips?
Pretty much weather but short runways like Burbank or Orange County can be sketch on a nice day
What percent of Flight attendants would actually bang if a decent looking dude had the guts to confidently/casually hit on them?
A lot of them! Plenty have ruined marriages
Why is it always the 737?
Boeing not going
If I don't give a shit about comfort but want to make sure my flight will be where it is supposed to be, who is the best carrier?
Well if we are talking safest domestically (wait for the shock…) Spirit Airlines ironically is. If you mean most reliable than Delta. United is close.
( I think I incorrectly guessed United because Ohare gets wrecked) Top 3 food airports, and restaurants. ( shout out Houston burrito shack) If I am going to crash, front of plane, back?
100% back, probably aisle, quicker line to exit.
Thanks brother.
 
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

"What percent of Flight attendants would actually bang if a decent looking dude had the guts to confidently/casually hit on them?"

"A lot of them! Plenty have ruined marriages"



Single Lads, the game isn't that hard, I do what I can for you.
 
If they really left the gear up to have airspeed to make the runway I’m shocked. They had enough thrust to go around once so it would seem they had ample thrust to fly with the gear down. Landing belly up here seems like a devastating choice. Nothing is really adding up.
 
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

"What percent of Flight attendants would actually bang if a decent looking dude had the guts to confidently/casually hit on them?"

"A lot of them! Plenty have ruined marriages"



Single Lads, the game isn't that hard, I do what I can for you.
On our flight to Hawaii this past fall we were in the bulkhead so sitting across from the attendant. She was ogling Mrs. Torbee and showering her with compliments. Pretty sure she wanted to scissor her timbers. Was kinda hot.
 
On our flight to Hawaii this past fall we were in the bulkhead so sitting across from the attendant. She was ogling Mrs. Torbee and showering her with compliments. Pretty sure she wanted to scissor her timbers. Was kinda hot.
Negative. She was actually sizing up her competition because she was really ogling you.
 
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On our flight to Hawaii this past fall we were in the bulkhead so sitting across from the attendant. She was ogling Mrs. Torbee and showering her with compliments. Pretty sure she wanted to scissor her timbers. Was kinda hot.

You went to Hawaii? I missed the dozens of posts about it on here. That’s kinda the M.O. around these parts.
 
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

"What percent of Flight attendants would actually bang if a decent looking dude had the guts to confidently/casually hit on them?"

"A lot of them! Plenty have ruined marriages"



Single Lads, the game isn't that hard, I do what I can for you.
There's a (no pic) flight attendant from England that I meet up with whenever her job takes her to LAX (a few times a year). She's single, but still. CSB.
 
If they really left the gear up to have airspeed to make the runway I’m shocked. They had enough thrust to go around once so it would seem they had ample thrust to fly with the gear down. Landing belly up here seems like a devastating choice. Nothing is really adding up.

I'm just now learning about this, watched the video. Whole thing seems weird. No gear is the most obvious but it didn't look like they even had flaps down or the spoilers armed.

I mean are we looking at a failure that not only took out one engine but took out the landing gear, flaps and spoilers too???
 
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Relative was a major airline pilot for decades. Also ex military.

He said the 737max is a great plane and lack of quality training is the issue.

Seems to me most of these disasters are not US airlines.
 
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Relative was a major airline pilot for decades. Also ex military.

He said the 737max is a great plane and lack of quality training is the issue.

Seems to me most of these disasters are not US airlines.

Before the fix to the MCAS system on the 737 Max it was absolutely a disaster waiting to happen. MCAS relied on only one AOA sensor and if that sensor failed or got bad readings it would automatically trim the plane into the ground while the pilots had to fight the yoke to try to keep it in the air.

By fight the yoke I mean have to pull on the thing with over 100 lbs of force just to keep the plane relatively level.

You could turn off the electronic trim but that caused it's own set of problems because if the trim was already trimmed down and you were fighting with the yoke to keep it in the air, pilots didn't have the strength to manually turn the trim wheels. You would have to let it dive to do that but if you are at a low altitude that's not possible.

On top of that the faulty AOA sensor often caused other problems which made pilots think they were stalling out, so they were often were more concerned about that and didn't even think about turning off the electronic trim adjustments.

To make matters worse, no one was informed about this possibility when they started flying the thing.
 
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Before the fix to the MCAS system on the 737 Max it was absolutely a disaster waiting to happen. MCAS relied on only one AOA sensor and if that sensor failed or got bad readings it would automatically trim the plane into the ground while the pilots had to fight the yoke to try to keep it in the air.

By fight the yoke I mean have to pull on the thing with over 100 lbs of force just to keep the plane relatively level.
I am not going to pretend to know anything, just relaying what a military pilot and airline pilot said with countless number of hours in all sorts of aircraft.
 
I am not going to pretend to know anything, just relaying what a military pilot and airline pilot said with countless number of hours in all sorts of aircraft.

I'm guessing he didn't experience MCAS trimming him into the ground on a faulty AOA sensor.

And it's not a bad plane now. But it was when they released it. Mostly because it had this weakness.

Worst part is a pilot for Ethiopian airlines sent them an E-mail when he learned of it's inner workings pointing out exactly how this could be a big big problem and they kind of blew him off.
 
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