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Baer in Europe

There are plenty of bears in Europe but they have never seen a Baer like this one!
 
He may not possess the raw talent that others do, but he has the makeup to be a team MVP, in my opinion. A real glue guy.
 
I just posted this in the Lounge as well...

Nicholas Baer's combined stat line of 8.5 points, 8.25 rebounds, 2.5 steals and .75 assists over four games was one of the most complete of the ten, USA East Coast All Stars. Baer was 2nd in rebounding, 2nd in steals, and 5th in scoring for the USA East Coast All Stars.

Only one player, Notre Dame's 6-10, Lithuanian Junior Center, Martinas Geben, came closer to averaging a double/double, 15.5 points, 8.75 rebounds. Geben's familiarity with International play was likely a significant advantage. In two seasons at Notre Dame he has totaled just 58 points and 50 rebounds in only 242 minutes, compared to Baer's 158 points and 85 rebounds in 447 minutes in just a single season. Hawk fans will get a chance to see Geben when Iowa visits the Irish on Tuesday, November 29th. http://www.und.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/martinas_geben_908418.html

Geben had 35 rebounds. Baer was next with 33. Baer had 18% of the team's rebounds, 33 of 183.

D2 point guard, Bryan Rivers from Pace University had 11 steals, edging Baer's ten steals, by one.

Baer and West Virginia's Jevon Carter were the only USA East Coast All Stars to record a steal in all four games. Baer had 18% of the team's steals, 10 of 55.

Baer's 34 points in 4 games (8.5 avg), was 5th highest on the team, trailing Geben, 62 (15.5), another Notre Damer Matt Farrell, 46 (11.2), Carter, 44, (11), and SMU's Harry Froling, 40, (10). Shots taken and shooting percentage were not made available via the guyrancourt.com web site, where a report on each of the 4 games was where these statistics were gleaned.

Great job Nicholas!
 
Nice wrap up. Looking forward to what Baer can bring to the team this season in what surely will be an expanded role.
 
I was among many whom had Baer as sixth man / energy guy off the bench but between the Villanova game, the outstanding PTL performance (and I know that doesn't mean a lot), and the impressive Euro trip performance; I now really think he starts at the 3 spot.

It appears to me that Williams, Jok, Baer, Cook as near locks. The question is Dom Uhl vs Ahmed Wagner down low at this point. Dom would be great at 6-9 but my sense is he just doesn't want it bad enough so a slight nod to Wagner. Moss and Wagner/Uhl as first off the bench.
 
I was among many whom had Baer as sixth man / energy guy off the bench but between the Villanova game, the outstanding PTL performance (and I know that doesn't mean a lot), and the impressive Euro trip performance; I now really think he starts at the 3 spot.

It appears to me that Williams, Jok, Baer, Cook as near locks. The question is Dom Uhl vs Ahmed Wagner down low at this point. Dom would be great at 6-9 but my sense is he just doesn't want it bad enough so a slight nod to Wagner. Moss and Wagner/Uhl as first off the bench.


I think you are right here Dog. At least on three of the starters. Jok, Cook and Baer are my near locks. With the PG position being Williams' to lose. I do not see JBo or any of the others stealing it unless CW has a bad fall. But it isn't set yet....

As for that last bigman starter, I think that is Uhl's to lose as well. He has the front runner position by default with his experience. That said, I would not be surprised to see a Wagner, Jones or even a Pemsl take the starting spot.
Yes, Pemsl. He is a baller, no question. I would not be surprised to see him get in there. His ball handling will be key. Best of the remaining bigs. Adding that quality to the lineup cannot be undervalued. He has a great all-around game. Not high in any one category, but good across the board. Kind of like Baer(although Baer's knack for the ball is tops on the team)...
I would throw Kreiner in the mix, but something tells me he needs a little more work to polish up. Plus we need someone to redshirt. It is a little too crowded with the bigs. If Jones is at or near 100% in November, then we may as well as save Kreiner for another year and let him grow, mature & focus on improving his game. It certainly has benefits.
 
I was among many whom had Baer as sixth man / energy guy off the bench but between the Villanova game, the outstanding PTL performance (and I know that doesn't mean a lot), and the impressive Euro trip performance; I now really think he starts at the 3 spot.

It appears to me that Williams, Jok, Baer, Cook as near locks. The question is Dom Uhl vs Ahmed Wagner down low at this point. Dom would be great at 6-9 but my sense is he just doesn't want it bad enough so a slight nod to Wagner. Moss and Wagner/Uhl as first off the bench.
It is pretty disrespectful to say Uhl doesn't want it bad enough. I would say they all want it really bad. The cream will rise to the top.
 
The Uhl/Wagner spot appears, to me, to be our potential weakness. Neither has a true feel for the offensive side, yet.

And it's not all about offense, but it is half of the game.

Both are developing and expanding their games, but Uhly has only been playing for so long and Wags is just starting to shoot something other than a layup. It'll take some time.

Maybe Jones is the answer, but we'd all have to see those knees respond for a spell before we start breathing normally.
 
It is pretty disrespectful to say Uhl doesn't want it bad enough. I would say they all want it really bad. The cream will rise to the top.

To me uhl has always kinda had a pissy attitude, the majority of the time I should say. When he was playing well early he seemed better, he even give the six shooter gesture after making a three once which was pretty cool. Here's to hoping he plays well and he enjoys himself a little more.
 
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We absolutely need a healthy Jones. I like a Williams, Jok, Baer, Jones, and Cook starting 5.

Uhl just doesn't give me a team first vibe. Talent wise he could easily start, but I don't sense that he's all in. He'll play a lot regardless, but as the season goes on a bunch of people will be fighting him for minutes.

Pete at the two allows Dom, Wagner, Baer, Pemsel, and Jones to fight for minutes at the 3/4. Moss will have something to say about the Pete to two move. If he outplays the 3/4 candidates Pete sees more time at the three.
 
We absolutely need a healthy Jones. I like a Williams, Jok, Baer, Jones, and Cook starting 5.

Uhl just doesn't give me a team first vibe. Talent wise he could easily start, but I don't sense that he's all in. He'll play a lot regardless, but as the season goes on a bunch of people will be fighting him for minutes.

Pete at the two allows Dom, Wagner, Baer, Pemsel, and Jones to fight for minutes at the 3/4. Moss will have something to say about the Pete to two move. If he outplays the 3/4 candidates Pete sees more time at the three.
I agree that fans are generally underestimating Jones. He could have made the difference in at least a couple games down the stretch last year.

Jones, Moss, and Cook have a scorer's mentality like Jok and RDM have displayed. This may appear strange to say of Cook considering his HS role, but he was not shy about scoring this summer and his talent and attitude appear sky high. Moss seems a little like Jok did as a frosh in wanting to shoot everything right now. But I like the mentality and he seems willing to be tempered. I agree he could make a huge difference in the backcourt.

Uhl doesn't have this scorer's mentality. He's trying to learn it but he seems to miss more when he's forcing himself to score. He is one of the most talented guys on the team and we could use his height, length, and experience among other things on O and D. We'll see how he handles his learning curve to a greater team role.
 
To me uhl has always kinda had a pissy attitude, the majority of the time I should say. When he was playing well early he seemed better, he even give the six shooter gesture after making a three once which was pretty cool. Here's to hoping he plays well and he enjoys himself a little more.
While it is true that he doesn't play with a lot of emotion, what makes you say he has a pissy attitude? He never seems to argue with the coaches and always seems quite cordial when I have talked to him after a game. Fran always says he is a hard worker. Just not sure where this idea is coming from?
 
While it is true that he doesn't play with a lot of emotion, what makes you say he has a pissy attitude? He never seems to argue with the coaches and always seems quite cordial when I have talked to him after a game. Fran always says he is a hard worker. Just not sure where this idea is coming from?

Many have agreed with me on this one. The guy just doesn't look like he is enjoying himself. Never smiles or shows much enthusiasm, he appears to me as he's not an overly happy hawk. Kinda like my kid, always has a frown on his face. (Maybe it's me) :confused:
 
I'd also agree that you're reading him wrong. I could be wrong, also.

He just doesn't play with "American" emotion. That's my take.
 
Many have agreed with me on this one. The guy just doesn't look like he is enjoying himself. Never smiles or shows much enthusiasm, he appears to me as he's not an overly happy hawk. Kinda like my kid, always has a frown on his face. (Maybe it's me) :confused:

I seem to agree with you when I watch him! Then I look back and think about JU. He never showed any emotions whatsoever. So, now what do we think about being a happy hawk?
 
Uthoff had lots of energy in the pre game huddles and such. He had more emotion than people give him credit for. I don't however see Uhl being able to fill the vocal leader role when he is a senior, unlike many that have before him. Hopefully Cook can turn into an early vocal presence.
 
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Not pissy, but Dom gets down on himself too easily. Like others have said, he's capable of being the second best player on this team (and maybe he will emerge. Jok did it last year, Uthoff the year before, White the year before that). I think his biggest issue is when he makes a mistake, he knows it and beats himself up over it, getting in his own head. He tries to play himself out of it, but he might have a turnover followed by an ugly three point attempt, and at that point he needs to sit to get his head straight.
 
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I think you guys may be misreading his stoic nature. I remember Moses Malone never changed the expression on his face but he was a monster player. Everybody is different.
 
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I think you guys may be misreading his stoic nature. I remember Moses Malone never changed the expression on his face but he was a monster player. Everybody is different.

Ole moses malone, was so glad when the 76ers got him. He was a beast and was the reason they finally won the title. He was a great player and you are right, he never changed his expression, just went out and did his job.
 
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While it is true that he doesn't play with a lot of emotion, what makes you say he has a pissy attitude? He never seems to argue with the coaches and always seems quite cordial when I have talked to him after a game. Fran always says he is a hard worker. Just not sure where this idea is coming from?

Well I am one who doesn't agree with Kurt....the word I heard on these boards coming out of workouts after the season and before PTL was that Dom was the most improved player and getting it done. Dom being a bit aloof or reserved does not mean the kid plays with an "attitude" problem or lack of "attitude" as Norm Van Lier would say.

I've heard Dom works extremely hard on his game and Tom K has said he's one of if not the first player on the floor before games shooting and working on his game. Hardly a bad attitude...far from it.

Before the game, I've watched him in some dribble drills and next to Gessell, Dom makes a run to be just as good if not a better skill dribbling the ball. It's impressive and he is talented...there is a lot he can do on a BB court that a lot guys his height cannot do....
 
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This is all good to know about Dom. I make 1 to 2 games a season so rarely see any warm-ups before the game. On tv it's game time with no pregame. I'm hoping Dom comes thru for the Hawks!!!
 
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Dom's abilities simply lack (to this point) a natural flow or recognition of someone who has played since his youth. I hope he gets it soon. It would be brilliant to see it all come together.
 
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Dom's abilities simply lack (to this point) a natural flow or recognition of someone who has played since his youth. I hope he gets it soon. It would be brilliant to see it all come together.

This reminds me of a few views of Jok just one year ago. That of course means nothing, no guarantee, that like Jok, Uhl will put it together in his junior year. But I take an optimistic comfort in knowing that Devyn, Gabe, Jok, all came to Iowa needing development and they got it.

It is a portion of a likewise bigger picture of practically the whole team. Aside from Jok, we've just no one who really jumps out because we've seen him do it before.

Baer? Would he be the next in line for us to be sure of? Oddly, we give him (I think) much of our confidence that he will continue to progress, yet we shake with doubt at Uhl (A little dramatic...folks can adjust the dial if this is too colorful)

But here's the thing. Aside from a redshirt year these guys have had similar results. Baer, playing practice squad two years ago and Uhl playing ten minutes a game and showing his first year follies. Last year, each guy had similar seasons and in fact both struggled at a very near exact point in the season. It made it doubly difficult when both Uhl and Baer stopped hitting those outside shots.

This is long winded, I know, but in a roundabout way I'm trying to say that there is no reason to disbelieve that Uhl can take another step forward. After all, an Andrew Fleming had the, "Rah Rah here we go!", demeanor last year and it took him all the way to Chattanooga. Uhl, quiet, stoic Uhl, is improbably high and low on the court in results. But those highs come with just as rare emotional displays as the lows.

Like a silencer on a gun, quiet but the gun is still deadly. We just need Dom to be more consistent, on the good side.
 
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One difference between Baer and Uhl is that Nick (yes, I called him Nick) seems to not let his errors jam his effort. He just keeps going.

Dom has more natural ability than NB, but Baer fights through it. A talent that Dom would be smart to master.
 
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