Baer's put-back jam

[hooper56]

No disrespect to Nicholas as I love him as much as you guys but he needs to take his hustle and enthusiasm and work ethic to the weight room and the training table. He could be an elite player if he gains 20lbs of muscle. Once the season is over he needs to be on a very structured eating and lifting program. He could become an NBA player but not unless he develops his body.

 

[Ree4]

Baer's game reminds me a lot of Aaron White - he did the same type of things. Garbage man, energy guy, always was in the right place at the right time, ok but not great shooter. Great at sneaking up on people that are being lazy with the ball - after rebounds or made baskets. Lanky, little hump in the back when they run. Only difference is AW could get up a lot higher for alley oops and dunks and was a master at drawing fouls. Anyone else see this?

 

[hawksense]

No disrespect to Nicholas as I love him as much as you guys but he needs to take his hustle and enthusiasm and work ethic to the weight room and the training table. He could be an elite player if he gains 20lbs of muscle. Once the season is over he needs to be on a very structured eating and lifting program. He could become an NBA player but not unless he develops his body.

This goes to the Bartels comparison some have been making. I'm not sure his body would put on 20 pounds if he ate 24/7. And if he worked out and weight trained, there goes the weight gain.

I say, take him for what he is. And that's not to say he couldn't put on some weight. Treat his body like the other players and see what results occur. A concerted effort to put on weight sounds like a recipe for something bad.

 

[hawksense]

Baer's game reminds me a lot of Aaron White - he did the same type of things. Garbage man, energy guy, always was in the right place at the right time, ok but not great shooter. Great at sneaking up on people that are being lazy with the ball - after rebounds or made baskets. Lanky, little hump in the back when they run. Only difference is AW could get up a lot higher for alley oops and dunks and was a master at drawing fouls. Anyone else see this?

Scholars of the game. Whitey must have been faster, also. He could sneak down the court ahead of everyone. There was something there that no one ever figured out.

 

[hooper56]

This goes to the Bartels comparison some have been making. I'm not sure his body would put on 20 pounds if he ate 24/7. And if he worked out and weight trained, there goes the weight gain.

I say, take him for what he is. And that's not to say he couldn't put on some weight. Treat his body like the other players and see what results occur. A concerted effort to put on weight sounds like a recipe for something bad.

This is old-fashioned thinking. Baer can absolutely add 20lbs of muscle. He just has to commit to lifting HARD and eating right. If he does it then he is an NBA pro. By Fran's own admission, Baer has spent most of his off season time working on improving his game rather than getting bigger and stronger. He has a good game. He needs bigger/stronger.

 

[hawksense]

This is old-fashioned thinking. Baer can absolutely add 20lbs of muscle. He just has to commit to lifting HARD and eating right. If he does it then he is an NBA pro. By Fran's own admission, Baer has spent most of his off season time working on improving his game rather than getting bigger and stronger. He has a good game. He needs bigger/stronger.

I'm not saying your line of thinking is wrong. My line of thinking is that they tried desperately to put chunk on Bartels and the only substantial weight he gained was through maturation, in my estimation. This may work for our Mr Baer, also.

 

[StormHawk42]

Baer has said in the past he's constantly eating and lifting in the offseason. His body probably just doesn't allow it.

As to the dunk, the best part is the celebration. Raw emotion from someone who lives and breathes Hawkeyes is just fun to watch as a fan.

 

[hawk-i bob]

I'm not saying your line of thinking is wrong. My line of thinking is that they tried desperately to put chunk on Bartels and the only substantial weight he gained was through maturation, in my estimation. This may work for our Mr Baer, also.

actually he is a little stronger...is about 20lbs heavier from 3 years ago.. I know from his HS days weight gain just didn't come easily..DNA

I agree more strength & a little weight but its sort of fun watching the skinny kid block shots...

 

[hawksense]

actually he is a little stronger...is about 20lbs heavier from 3 years ago.. I know from his HS days weight gain just didn't come easily..DNA

I agree more strength & a little weight but its sort of fun watching the skinny kid block shots...

3 years ago = maturation. It supports my point.

I'm not trying to be a dick.

 

[hawkeyez]

And don't forget all of the puns of his name that the sportscasters can use. Just this am Baer Meat, Baer cage, among others.

STRONG LIKE BAER!

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

This goes to the Bartels comparison some have been making. I'm not sure his body would put on 20 pounds if he ate 24/7. And if he worked out and weight trained, there goes the weight gain.

I say, take him for what he is. And that's not to say he couldn't put on some weight. Treat his body like the other players and see what results occur. A concerted effort to put on weight sounds like a recipe for something bad.

The Bartels comparison on strength and weight gain needs to stop for a couple reasons. 1st we know MUCH more about strength training, supplementing (legal of course), and nutrition than we did 25 years ago. He should NOT be treated "like all the other players". A customized program needs to be created. 2. Bartels played for Tom Davis. Dr. Tom had a very "old school" and relaxed strength program. Many of the workouts were "voluntary. I knew the strength coach at the time and talked to him often. He was very frustrated about players skipping the workouts. He would ask Tom if he wanted to go to their dorm room to get them out of bed in the morning to show up for the workouts. Tom would reply "Naw, it's not a big deal". He told me about the only player who took the workouts seriously was Dean Oliver.

I really don't know anything about the strength coach now or how important the S&C program is to Fran but I'm a HUGE believer in it's importance. I have my CSCS (certified strength and conditioning specialist) and have worked with athletes in the past. I hope Fran works closely with the strength coach. I know Alford also had a pretty lax approach and I highly doubt Lick was a huge proponent.

 

[hawksense]

The Bartels comparison on strength and weight gain needs to stop for a couple reasons. 1st we know MUCH more about strength training, supplementing (legal of course), and nutrition than we did 25 years ago. He should NOT be treated "like all the other players". A customized program needs to be created. 2. Bartels played for Tom Davis. Dr. Tom had a very "old school" and relaxed strength program. Many of the workouts were "voluntary. I knew the strength coach at the time and talked to him often. He was very frustrated about players skipping the workouts. He would ask Tom if he wanted to go to their dorm room to get them out of bed in the morning to show up for the workouts. Tom would reply "Naw, it's not a big deal". He told me about the only player who took the workouts seriously was Dean Oliver.

I really don't know anything about the strength coach now or how important the S&C program is to Fran but I'm a HUGE believer in it's importance. I have my CSCS (certified strength and conditioning specialist) and have worked with athletes in the past. I hope Fran works closely with the strength coach. I know Alford also had a pretty lax approach and I highly doubt Lick was a huge proponent.

Basketball players with basketball instincts. That's what i want. And then, get them the experience they need to become better.

I know you believe in your field of expertise. It's what you do.

I, as a fan of many sports, have seen the weight lifting and such be a detriment to some sports. What the Hell are baseball guys doing pumping iron? So they can pull muscles throughout the entire season? Ask Tom Brady what he thinks of all of this.

And I'm not making Brady the sole example. Genetics come into play. Luck comes into play. Desire to reach your full potential comes into play.

I stand by my "Baer is what he is" stance. He will weigh more and be stronger by the time he is a senior. I appreciate what he is right now without all the bells and whistles of being "something even better".

 

[hawksense]

Oh, and that was a very nice put-back jam. Just getting back to the topic.

 

[Rudolph]

The Bartels comparison on strength and weight gain needs to stop for a couple reasons. 1st we know MUCH more about strength training, supplementing (legal of course), and nutrition than we did 25 years ago. He should NOT be treated "like all the other players". A customized program needs to be created. 2. Bartels played for Tom Davis. Dr. Tom had a very "old school" and relaxed strength program. Many of the workouts were "voluntary. I knew the strength coach at the time and talked to him often. He was very frustrated about players skipping the workouts. He would ask Tom if he wanted to go to their dorm room to get them out of bed in the morning to show up for the workouts. Tom would reply "Naw, it's not a big deal". He told me about the only player who took the workouts seriously was Dean Oliver.

I really don't know anything about the strength coach now or how important the S&C program is to Fran but I'm a HUGE believer in it's importance. I have my CSCS (certified strength and conditioning specialist) and have worked with athletes in the past. I hope Fran works closely with the strength coach. I know Alford also had a pretty lax approach and I highly doubt Lick was a huge proponent.

I can confirm this about Dr. Tom and strength & conditioning program. Wasn't a focus. Plus it was hard to want to go in there and lift when none of us could approach what Pearl (who was in there frequently) was lifting. So everybody would just walk on ahead to the floor and get shots up.

 

[bravehawks1]

hell, you guys are just mad that you look at food and you gain 5 pounds. Baer looks like one of those guys because of genetics and metabolism may have trouble gaining a lot of weight even if trying to do it with proper nutrition and lifting and it will just occur over time. I might also be concerned that if Baer were to gain weight, it might impact those "twitch muscles" that make him so effective in getting to the ball. Baer was guarding Bryant for stretches last night and because he played smarter and used good positioning, he kept Bryant from getting the ball in the paint. I am just fine with Baer's current physical stature and what he brings to the team. he simply makes most of the guys around him better when he is on the court and if you are fortunate enough to see him play in person, you know what a leader he is on the court.

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

Basketball players with basketball instincts. That's what i want. And then, get them the experience they need to become better.

I know you believe in your field of expertise. It's what you do.

I, as a fan of many sports, have seen the weight lifting and such be a detriment to some sports. What the Hell are baseball guys doing pumping iron? So they can pull muscles throughout the entire season? Ask Tom Brady what he thinks of all of this.

And I'm not making Brady the sole example. Genetics come into play. Luck comes into play. Desire to reach your full potential comes into play.

I stand by my "Baer is what he is" stance. He will weigh more and be stronger by the time he is a senior. I appreciate what he is right now without all the bells and whistles of being "something even better".

You might want to come up with a better comparison than Tom Brady hawksense. Tom has a TEAM of personal trainers and an extremely strict diet! Funny you question baseball players lifting weights. I played baseball for the Hawkeyes ( over 30 years ago), coached college baseball for about 9 years and can tell you weight lifting is VITAL to stay competitive. You are correct genetics play a HUGE part but ANY athlete without a proper s & c program is letting the competition that does have an edge.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Let's do everyone a favor and stop with the NBA stuff.

 

[hawksense]

So, Roy Marble, our all-time leading scorer couldn't get into the gym to weight train because Pearl was out lifting him? Interesting.

And I vaguely remember a once skinny Nomar Garciaparra tearing his groin (?) leaving the batters box? I'm sure that's a common occurrence for a once skinny kid.

I don't want to continue this back and forth. I believe what I believe, right or wrong. I'm sure some form of fitness is beneficial. I think it's gone overboard.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Baer's best attribute is between his ears. Nutrition and a little weight training could help, but he is good because he anticipates and processes situations instantly. Combine that with his energy and hustle, and you have our Bear.

It would be nice if he could stand up straight

 

[Rudolph]

So, Roy Marble, our all-time leading scorer couldn't get into the gym to weight train because Pearl was out lifting him? Interesting.

And I vaguely remember a once skinny Nomar Garciaparra tearing his groin (?) leaving the batters box? I'm sure that's a common occurrence for a once skinny kid.

I don't want to continue this back and forth. I believe what I believe, right or wrong. I'm sure some form of fitness is beneficial. I think it's gone overboard.

Are you arguing with someone?

 

[hawk-i bob]

Baer's best attribute is between his ears. Nutrition and a little weight training could help, but he is good because he anticipates and processes situations instantly. Combine that with his energy and hustle, and you have our Bear.

It would be nice if he could stand up straight

doesn't look the part does he? I'm pretty close to his HS coach...Baer has always had that special something..some of it is he doesn't understand he can't play.

I've always thought,,,what if Fran had a spot & offered him a scholarship right out of HS...can you imagine the HR Poster Reaction? ... I realize not everyone has that special something (doesn't mean they cant play)...not everyone looks the part.....likewise..doesn't mean they cant play.

if Nicholas Baer teaches us anything its that ole saying "you cant always judge a book by its cover"... sometimes I think we HR Posters are way too quick to judge recruits & then players...that's pro & con.

 

[Curt Furence]

The best part of that play was seen from the basket camera. Shot goes up, 4 red jerseys around the basket watch, Baer comes from behind them to make a play. Non-stop hustle with great instincts.

Good call,

Then almost instantly they all look at each other and put their hands up like "you were supposed to get him"

 

[HawkinMN]

Meet Mr. Baer, Basketball player.

 

[Mohawkeye]

I think Wagner plays with some passion, but he doesn't have Baer's court awareness and he doesn't have very good hands. Pemsl plays with a little edge and has a pretty good understanding of how to play, but he is a step slow and has limited jumping ability. Cook would be unstoppable if he played with Baer's attitude. We saw a little bit of that toward the end of the IU game. I hope we start to see more.

I like the attitude that Pemsl plays with, it isn't quite like Baer's going all-out all-the-time, but he does bring an edge and a feistyness. I don't think he is slow of foot so much as his conditioning could be a little better.

 

[hawk-i bob]

I like the attitude that Pemsl plays with, it isn't quite like Baer's going all-out all-the-time, but he does bring an edge and a feistyness. I don't think he is slow of foot so much as his conditioning could be a little better.

agree with you..has some toughness...he does occasional make some poor decisions (freshman ugh)...but he doesn't back down...love it..Cook is starting to show this as well..

 

[hawkguy77]

agree with you..has some toughness...he does occasional make some poor decisions (freshman ugh)...but he doesn't back down...love it..Cook is starting to show this as well..

I wish Cook would play with the edge he displayed in overtime the other night all the time.

 

[bigfridaynite]

doesn't look the part does he? I'm pretty close to his HS coach...Baer has always had that special something..some of it is he doesn't understand he can't play.

I've always thought,,,what if Fran had a spot & offered him a scholarship right out of HS...can you imagine the HR Poster Reaction? ... I realize not everyone has that special something (doesn't mean they cant play)...not everyone looks the part.....likewise..doesn't mean they cant play.

if Nicholas Baer teaches us anything its that ole saying "you cant always judge a book by its cover"... sometimes I think we HR Posters are way too quick to judge recruits & then players...that's pro & con.

Honest question I see Baer only took 1 3pt shot in HS was this coaching or did NB work that hard to develop that shot in a couple years

 

[FranklinHawk]

He reminds me of Acie Earl & Reggie Evans wrapped into one. But he can dribble & pass like Andre Woolridge.

You forgot to add that he can also dunk like Doug Thomas.

 

[kceasthawk]

Baer's best attribute is between his ears. Nutrition and a little weight training could help, but he is good because he anticipates and processes situations instantly. Combine that with his energy and hustle, and you have our Bear.

It would be nice if he could stand up straight

I hope your being sarcastic on that last comment. I would assume Nick has some type of condition, where he has some curvature of the spine. Had a young man on my sons NAIA team, who had that same type of slouch. Don't remember what it was called exactly, but it wasn't just bad posture.

 

[kceasthawk]

Honest question I see Baer only took 1 3pt shot in HS was this coaching or did NB work that hard to develop that shot in a couple years

I'm sure as a 6'7' player in high school he played in the post. With his quickness and effort, I'm sure he was very effective there.

 

[kceasthawk]

I wish Cook would play with the edge he displayed in overtime the other night all the time.

True, but he better be careful with that stare down. As cool as it was, that kind of stuff usually doesn't fly with the zebra's, especially for freshman.

 

[hawk_it]

There's the Franwich... how 'bout selling Baer Claws at the game.

 

[hawk-i bob]

Honest question I see Baer only took 1 3pt shot in HS was this coaching or did NB work that hard to develop that shot in a couple years

his HS teams were loaded with guards that could shoot and being the tallest player on the team he played inside..similar to why Cook/Pemsl have taken but a few 3 pointers.

He was pretty good as a penetrator in HS.
He has worked very hard to be as effective as possible shooting 3's...since coming to Iowa.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Speraw is a master shooting technician

 

[terrehawk]

He plays so hard he has to rest but Iowa is so much better when he is on the floor and he does make everybody around him better

Yeah every once in a while he looks like he's going to drop over dead from exhaustion and Fran just ignores him and refuses to call a timeout. Haha