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Beaches are Hurting

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and the Corps of Engineers is holding off on replenishment projects. Interesting read.

In response to questions from Grist, a spokesperson for the Corps gave no indication that the agency will budge on its policy, which it has begun to enforce elsewhere in Florida and in other coastal states like South Carolina.
Even when Pinellas County tried to obtain separate temporary easements to build new emergency dunes at the top of its beaches, many residents still refused, in part out of a concern that new dunes would block their ocean views. This further stalemate with homeowners has forced the county to build a piecemeal dune behind coastal properties, leaving holes in front of the homes and hotels where the owners didn’t want to grant an easement.
This broken dune won’t do much come storm season, according to René Flowers, a Pinellas County commissioner who has been pushing the Corps to deliver the sand.
“When you have a break in the chain, then all of the work that you’re doing is not as impactful in protecting as it would be,” she said.
Rob Young, a professor of geology at Western Carolina University and a frequent critic of beach nourishment projects, says Pinellas County should fund the nourishment itself through sales tax increases rather than relying on the federal government to pay for new sand. He pointed out that some beach towns on the Outer Banks of North Carolina have taxed tourism to pay for sand after the federal government stopped covering the costs.
“For a lot of people, the privacy is more important to them than the risk of destruction,” he said, referring to residents who refused to grant easements. “The solution is very easy—pay for your own risk.” Young added that many nourishment projects don’t seem to be worth the money they cost. He pointed to the Jersey Shore, where a $1 million beach nourishment project washed away in just one year.
The knowledge that beach nourishment might not be a good investment doesn’t do much to help local leaders like Flowers, the Pinellas County commissioner, who is bracing herself for a hurricane season that meteorologists predict will be one of the most active in decades.
 
This article is confusing. I’m not sure what it’s trying to convey as it’s kind of contradictory in its message. Maybe I didn’t dive deep enough 🤷‍♂️
 
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I only posted part of the article. The Corps is halting beach projects unless landowners allow beach access.
Right, but the South Carolina portion kind of negates the stance that it’s a worthwhile action or am I missing something? And let me be clear, I’m all for government action to preserve our beaches, just seems like it could be a futile project.
 
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Right, but the South Carolina portion kind of negates the stance that it’s a worthwhile action or am I missing something? And let me be clear, I’m all for government action to preserve our beaches, just seems like it could be a futile project.
I agree with Rob Young’s stance that nourishment projects are mostly a fool’s errand, but taxes/fees should fund projects for areas that restrict public access.
This sh*t is getting real. Homes on the Outer Banks of NC topple semi routinely. If folks build “beachfront” they should be ineligible for public funding or insurance to rebuild. That would take a lot of pressure off of the insurance implosion currently playing out.
 
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I agree with Rob Young’s stance that nourishment projects are mostly a fool’s errand, but taxes/fees should fund projects for areas that restrict public access.
This sh*t is getting real. Homes on the Outer Banks of NC topple semi routinely. If folks build “beachfront” they should be ineligible for public funding or insurance to rebuild. That would take a lot of pressure off of the insurance implosion currently playing out.
I’m not doubting you, but can you send a link regarding the outer banks houses toppling? My best friends parents have a house on Carolina beach I believe. Not literally beachfront, but a block off the beach.
 
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I’m not doubting you, but can you send a link regarding the outer banks houses toppling? My best friends parents have a house on Carolina beach I believe. Not literally beachfront, but a block off the beach.
I will try to dig around, but it is pretty well known.
 
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Hurtin for a squirtin.
Workaholics I Bet GIF
 
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I’m not doubting you, but can you send a link regarding the outer banks houses toppling? My best friends parents have a house on Carolina beach I believe. Not literally beachfront, but a block off the beach.
Here is one article, sorry to say it is behind a paywall.
 
Here is one article, sorry to say it is behind a paywall.

Stilt houses solve this problem. The storm surge runs harmless under your house instead of washing it away. As a bonus, you get a covered parking area under your house (park somewhere else if storm surge is coming).
 
Stilt houses solve this problem. The storm surge runs harmless under your house instead of washing it away. As a bonus, you get a covered parking area under your house (park somewhere else if storm surge is coming

You really think the stilt homes pictured will be around for long?
Beach front homes should not be insured in the typical group coverage. Those owners should self insure or group together, shielding other properties from their liabilities.
 
Stilt houses solve this problem. The storm surge runs harmless under your house instead of washing it away. As a bonus, you get a covered parking area under your house (park somewhere else if storm surge is coming).
So these homeowners in your scenario don’t own vehicles?
 
You evacuate (and bring your cars) when a hurricane is coming. Stilt house or no stilt house.
Oh, you live in fantasy land, got it. Also, I just rehabbed a stilt home on Ft Myers Beach. Water got 3 foot into second level.
 
We just got back from a week at Madeira Beach. That area is certainly not hurting. One of the reason we chose the area was home close the condos are to the beach. I hate having to hike a half mile carrying my crap over a boardwalk and dunes. No thanks.

There were a handful of condos nearby that had them but once did not. They are adding additional tide breakers just off the beach though.
 
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