Been watching some old highlights...

[cmhawks99]

Mostly just because they pop up when I get on YouTube to listen to a song, but also because I've read so much criticism about KF over the years I like to watch some of this stuff just to draw a trend line between what is true and what is perception.

It's remarkable to me how many lowly rated 2-star kids have played in there first and second year on campus.

It's also remarkable how many times we've thrown deep down the field for a coach who has historically not thrown deep down the field or so say the masses....

I'm also seriously surprised and not taking a slight dig when I say we actually had some fairly decent wide receiver's under coaches that the fans widely panned i/e: KOK & Lester Erb?!

Also it struck me, why now after 15 years I don't know but it did all the same how remarkable it was that Brad Banks came to be a stellar quarterback at Iowa at all? If I remember correctly he played wide receiver for a year in junior college. Pretty aggressive coaching if you think about it....

I make a lot of people mad and sometimes I care and to tell you the truth sometimes I don't. Quite frankly people have become so results-oriented that they look at what happened and then they form their hypotheses as a result of that. Typically missing the truth of what is really happening.

Coaches make mistakes and plenty of them but for the most part I don't think they deserve the criticism they get and man do they get a lot of criticism. Honestly I guess that's OK but what people say truly truly baffles me it's like they don't even really watch the game?!

 

[KFsdisciple]

The consistency of Iowa football drives people crazy even our own fanbase. Its not hard to predict what Iowa is going to do on either side of the ball. That's what made some of the decisions that KF made last year so fun...even when they failed, like the fake FG vs Iowa State.

One of my favorite annual topics is Iowa "opening up the playbook" after soundly beating some FCS team 35-3. Iowa won 35-3 and they did it with "vanilla" play calling... no my friends that is the playbook. The super-secret triple reverse pass just ain't coming. Iowa isn't innovative on the offensive side of the ball; they are efficient.

I have enjoyed watching Iowa use the Raider package on defense...

As far as mistakes the coaches make, I think in-game if the team out executes their opponent then they are geniuses... If we're talking personnel, I do think sometimes the coaches are too caught up in not wanting to make a mistake that they have a more athletically talented player standing and watching a less talented player because while he may not run as fast or catch as well as the other guy, he does all the little things that are being asked of the position better.

That last issue is a problem for me, If a WR can't run block very well, then don't have him in there to run block... I think our coaches get too consumed with the idea that a player needs to be able to do everything that is needed before seeing the field. Over the years we have tried to get certain guys in the game for "gadget plays" the problem was a guy like Paul Chaney... the reverse was as exotic as the offense got and when he was in... defenses knew to look for it. Chaney's best asset was his speed, I would have liked him to line up outside early in the game, and just let whoever the QB was take a shot over the top of the defense...even if the desired result was the ball to fly out of bounds 40 yards down the field.

 

[And1Hawk]

Mostly just because they pop up when I get on YouTube to listen to a song, but also because I've read so much criticism about KF over the years I like to watch some of this stuff just to draw a trend line between what is true and what is perception.

It's remarkable to me how many lowly rated 2-star kids have played in there first and second year on campus.

It's also remarkable how many times we've thrown deep down the field for a coach who has historically not thrown deep down the field or so say the masses....

I'm also seriously surprised and not taking a slight dig when I say we actually had some fairly decent wide receiver's under coaches that the fans widely panned i/e: KOK & Lester Erb?!

Also it struck me, why now after 15 years I don't know but it did all the same how remarkable it was that Brad Banks came to be a stellar quarterback at Iowa at all? If I remember correctly he played wide receiver for a year in junior college. Pretty aggressive coaching if you think about it....

I make a lot of people mad and sometimes I care and to tell you the truth sometimes I don't. Quite frankly people have become so results-oriented that they look at what happened and then they form their hypotheses as a result of that. Typically missing the truth of what is really happening.

Coaches make mistakes and plenty of them but for the most part I don't think they deserve the criticism they get and man do they get a lot of criticism. Honestly I guess that's OK but what people say truly truly baffles me it's like they don't even really watch the game?!

So let me get this straight. You take a back-handed approach to calling out a section of critics within the fan base based on highlights which represent 1-2% of all plays run throughout a typical game? You do not provide any objective numbers on the number of passes thrown in games and the number of deep balls nor do you define what a deep ball is. You also do not provide any numbers on the all players star ranking vs when and how they actually played. You describe it though as remarkable?

Then you site Brad Banks who played QB in high school (3 yr player/state champ in FL), played WR his first year of JUCO, but played QB his entire second year of JUCO leading Hinds to an 11-1 record before transferring to Iowa. Was it really a stretch for him to play QB at Iowa even though he was a good enough athlete to play WR at one point?

The point here is if you are going to actually debunk 'perception' you might want to provide meaningful data to actually do that.

 

[cmhawks99]

So let me get this straight. You take a back-handed approach to calling out a section of critics within the fan base based on highlights which represent 1-2% of all plays run throughout a typical game? You do not provide any objective numbers on the number of passes thrown in games and the number of deep balls nor do you define what a deep ball is. You also do not provide any numbers on the all players star ranking vs when and how they actually played. You describe it though as remarkable?

Then you site Brad Banks who played QB in high school (3 yr player/state champ in FL), played WR his first year of JUCO, but played QB his entire second year of JUCO leading Hinds to an 11-1 record before transferring to Iowa. Was it really a stretch for him to play QB at Iowa even though he was a good enough athlete to play WR at one point?

The point here is if you are going to actually debunk 'perception' you might want to provide meaningful data to actually do that.

Wow u nailed this for me.....I would like people to actually watch a whole game. I'd like them to go back and actually "count" throws down field, then and only then make their claims about what we do or don't do. U kind of missed it friend but you do fall into my category of folks who I believe if you set them up will make your point for you. If the highlights of a game only show successful plays which they do, it's easy to assume there were quite a few more that weren't successful.

Which bringing this full circle is dead on what I'm saying. If something is successful then "it happened" if not then it didn't.

For the record as a general WRs in the NFL or any high end college team don't pay if they don't block and running backs don't play if they fumble.

Iowa isn't unusual or even any more predictable than most teams. I can watch any team play and resonantly assume what they are going to do. Especially the NFL, it's not a terribly complicated game really.

Here is what I have found, every team that loses is predictable and made bad play calls. They also typically play the wrong people. Should have read the comment board I read about Green Bay last preseason about how terrible their coaches and personell was....if they suck then KF has no hope.

 

[cmhawks99]

Point is and we aren't going to rehash this again, KF and staff aren't terribly unusual nor are they incompetent. If a WR won't block or run decoy routes he become "predictable". I can't for the life of me understand why people miss this. "Predictable" is 1 deminsional players.

So much of what people say or believe they see can be broke down with simple logic. But to be fair this isn't an Iowa phenomenon, it's a fan phenomenon, every team that loses their fans say their coaches were predicable. Think about that for a second. Pretty hard to believe really?!

I have found if you go back and watch the games with an open mind you'll find the team that catches, blocks and tackles best Always wins. ALWAYS.....yes better teams lose every week but it's because they didn't do the core things that we're needed to win. It's not complicated.

 

[DarkThunder#61]

So let me get this straight. You take a back-handed approach to calling out a section of critics within the fan base (oh i dont think it was just a section of them...) based on highlights which represent 1-2% of all plays (ehhhh that depends on what kind of highlight you watch.....if youre watching ESPN highlights then yeah 1 to 2 %. Most any other highlight, such as HawkeyeHistorian, and that guesstimate is not even close. 10 plays in a 160 play game is 6% since you wanted facts and data and all of that ridiculousness.) throughout a typical game? You do not provide any objective numbers on the number of passes thrown in games (You're suppose to take his word for it and like it.) and the number of deep balls nor do you define what a deep ball is. (Not sure if serious...) You also do not provide any numbers on the all players star ranking vs when and how they actually played. (Oh, you aren't being serious....)You describe it though as remarkable?

Then you site Brad Banks who played QB in high school (3 yr player/state champ in FL), played WR his first year of JUCO, but played QB his entire second year of JUCO leading Hinds to an 11-1 record before transferring to Iowa. Was it really a stretch for him to play QB at Iowa even though he was a good enough athlete to play WR at one point? (The world may never know.)

The point here is if you are going to actually debunk 'perception' you might want to provide meaningful data to actually do that. (It's not really necessary. Fact is there have been times criticism was necessary, but yes many of you that criticized also went way the f*** overboard too...and you have nobody else to blame but yourselves and most all of those you that should will not do that, and WILL be right back on here making over-the-top complaints when things go bad again. But like I said.........that's YOUR problem. True story.)

I'm also not surprised that spbc7 liked your post.

 

[cmhawks99]

I'm also not surprised that spbc7 liked your post.

Ding, ding.....

 

[cmhawks99]

I'm also not surprised that spbc7 liked your post.

I've tried every approach on here. I've been pleasant, apologetic, informative, I've researched, compared, etc....honestly about the only thing they respond to is painting them into a corner and making them feel stupid.

They'll call you condescending, pompous, arrogant, a know it all, like they've discovered something when all along its what I meant to do...make them aware they aren't fooling anyone.

I get super frustrated by inconstancy and losses myself. Nor do I think KF and staff are the greatest coaches ever, but I do actually watch the games AND more importantly other games and know what they think they see is bunk!!

 

[spbc7]

I'm also not surprised that spbc7 liked your post.

What can I say, the dude dropped a truth bomb

I've tried every approach on here. I've been pleasant, apologetic, informative, I've researched, compared, etc....honestly about the only thing they respond to is painting them into a corner and making them feel stupid.

They'll call you condescending, pompous, arrogant, a know it all, like they've discovered something when all along its what I meant to do...make them aware they aren't fooling anyone.

I get super frustrated by inconstancy and losses myself. Nor do I think KF and staff are the greatest coaches ever, but I do actually watch the games AND more importantly other games and know what they think they see is bunk!!

Example number one of why message boards aren't for you. Do you ever stop and listen to yourself? Very strong case of superiority complex going on. It's one thing to disagree with people, but you take it to a whole new level where your opinion is superior to all others. This whole post you talk about yourself as some god-like creature that has a duty to inform people of how wrong their opinions are and that you will hammer them with yours until they accept it as fact. I do it to Nebraska fans and it's quite fun, so maybe you just enjoy doing it to fans of your own team?

 

[cmhawks99]

What can I say, the dude dropped a truth bomb


Example number one of why message boards aren't for you. Do you ever stop and listen to yourself? Very strong case of superiority complex going on. It's one thing to disagree with people, but you take it to a whole new level where your opinion is superior to all others. This whole post you talk about yourself as some god-like creature that has a duty to inform people of how wrong their opinions are and that you will hammer them with yours until they accept it as fact. I do it to Nebraska fans and it's quite fun, so maybe you just enjoy doing it to fans of your own team?

100% done on purpose for people like you, you'll notice it's only guys like you that get really pissy friend. Guys that think like me that are super tired of your guys crap they actually like seeing guys like you irritated!

Anymore awesome insights friend...

 

[cmhawks99]

100% done on purpose for people like you, you'll notice it's only guys like you that get really pissy friend. Guys that think like me that are super tired of your guys crap they actually like seeing guys like you irritated!

Anymore awesome insights friend...

PS I was moving fast and didn't see the end of your post. Yes you are right I don't like lots of Iowa fans I have zero respect for them & I don't like how they conduct themselves or constantly constantly find things wrong. The funniest thing about it is you and others like you are offended because it's your opinions that you think are right it's truly baffling to me that so many people on these message boards are so damn shortsighted and incapable of seeing the hypocrisy of their statements.

To me it's a football game that's it and when people get all that ramped up and upset that they constantly have to point out what went wrong on the football field then yeah I'm going to have something to say about it. My advice to you is avoid me because if you're constantly going to have a problem with what I say them I'm going to give you plenty to have a problem with. It's probably worth noting it's clearly not just me that doesn't like the kind of things you say…

Carry on....

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

I really don't care what other people's perception is, but I will say that my perception is that I am damn proud to have only 2 head coaches my entire life. I believe we are lucky to have KF and his current staff, I also believe we are going to have a great season. I believe KF and his family love the Hawkeyes program and KF has the pride to ensure that he rides out into the sunset and when he does decide to hang up his whistle I will shed a tear as I did with Fry. I also believe many of the negative posters will change their tune and perception of KF when it's all said and done

 

[cmhawks99]

I really don't care what other people's perception is, but I will say that my perception is that I am damn proud to have only 2 head coaches my entire life. I believe we are lucky to have KF and his current staff, I also believe we are going to have a great season. I believe KF and his family love the Hawkeyes program and KF has the pride to ensure that he rides out into the sunset and when he does decide to hang up his whistle I will shed a tear as I did with Fry. I also believe many of the negative posters will change their tune and perception of KF when it's all said and done

This is an awesome post and I've read plenty of what you have had to say. You're a pleasant guy and you stay on the up and up. I have no doubt you get frustrated with losses just like everybody else but you're not immediately jumping to play calling, "predictability", personnel and how dumb the coaches are. You are an enjoyable fan, it's true I can really be an ass when I so choose to be but you're the kind a fan I enjoy interacting with.

It's not even the criticism for me it's what they criticize. If they haven't seen us throw down field and if they haven't seen us have some aggressive play calling and if they think a guy that has put that many gazillion kids in the NFL is consistently making poor personnel choices then they need to pick a different team. The good thing is there are others like them on those boards too so they'll find bitter friends....

 

[DarkThunder#61]

What can I say, the dude dropped a truth bomb

Aren't bombs suppose to hit their target though?.........

 

[cmhawks99]

Aren't bombs suppose to hit their target though?.........

Not for these guys they have a different version of the truth and if you call them out on it they get pissy. Actually let me re-say that, if you say simply..." no I don't think that's right"...they ignore you. So then when you say it with a little indignance & call them out, they get pissed off!!

Personally I think it's important that you guys band together and consistently let them know it's irritating their brand of BS. Generally speaking I'm a lover and a people pleaser but I'm also readily capable of antagonizing folly....

 

[spbc7]

Aren't bombs suppose to hit their target though?.........

This one hit like Little Boy on Hiroshima

 

[cmhawks99]

This one hit like Little Boy on Hiroshima

But only for you and your like minded or should I say blinded henchmen, clearly he didn't agree, nor would I wager do most of the readers. They don't think our coaches are constantly screwing things up....there are honestly only a handful of you angry types that typically get pissy with me.

 

[spbc7]

PS I was moving fast and didn't see the end of your post. Yes you are right I don't like lots of Iowa fans I have zero respect for them & I don't like how they conduct themselves or constantly constantly find things wrong. The funniest thing about it is you and others like you are offended because it's your opinions that you think are right it's truly baffling to me that so many people on these message boards are so damn shortsighted and incapable of seeing the hypocrisy of their statements.

To me it's a football game that's it and when people get all that ramped up and upset that they constantly have to point out what went wrong on the football field then yeah I'm going to have something to say about it. My advice to you is avoid me because if you're constantly going to have a problem with what I say them I'm going to give you plenty to have a problem with. It's probably worth noting it's clearly not just me that doesn't like the kind of things you say…

Carry on....

Have you ever read any of my posts? Honestly you are so far off base it's hilarious. I rarely have a problem with your posts until you devolve into some pissy little baby when somebody has a different opinion than you. When you have 5,200 posts and people have only been compelled to press "like" 53 times on them, it's pretty obvious what people think of your contributions.

 

[spbc7]

But only for you and your like minded or should I say blinded henchmen, clearly he didn't agree, nor would I wager do most of the readers. They don't think our coaches are constantly screwing things up....there are honestly only a handful of you angry types that typically get pissy with me.

Rich, rich irony is this one

 

[cmhawks99]

Have you ever read any of my posts? Honestly you are so far off base it's hilarious. I rarely have a problem with your posts until you devolve into some pissy little baby when somebody has a different opinion than you. When you have 5,200 posts and people have only been compelled to press "like" 53 times on them, it's pretty obvious what people think of your contributions.

I have been patiently waiting for someone with very limited insight to say this. It's to easy really.....

I started posting on this board 12 to 13 years ago give or take. I disappear often and in fact haven't been on the board for nearly 2 years. All 53 of those likes have happened in just the last month. I'll pause while the wheels in your head start catching up.

I've only been on here off and on a number of times in this last month and I daresay I haven't even made 100 posts give or take. Now you seem reasonably intelligent enough so that makes your comment completely and irreocably asinine and out in left field... much like the way you postulate on other things.

Honestly you, Pepper a couple others you need to stay in the game. I realize I can be a real jackass but clearly I'm doing it for sport you could pay a little closer attention honestly.

I only reserve this attitude for very few people and you're one of them friend.

 

[spbc7]

I have been patiently waiting for someone with very limited insight to say this. It's to easy really.....

I started posting on this board 12 to 13 years ago give or take. I disappear often and in fact haven't been on the board for nearly 2 years. All 53 of those likes have happened in just the last month. I'll pause while the wheels in your head start catching up.

I've only been on here off and on a number of times in this last month and I daresay I haven't even made 100 posts give or take. Now you seem reasonably intelligent enough so that makes your comment completely and irreocably asinine and out in left field... much like the way you postulate on other things.

Honestly you, Pepper a couple others you need to stay in the game. I realize I can be a real jackass but clearly I'm doing it for sport you could pay a little closer attention honestly.

I only reserve this attitude for very few people and you're one of them friend.

I'm glad I take up so much room in that little head of yours. It's an honor, really.

 

[cmhawks99]

I'm glad I take up so much room in that little head of yours. It's an honor, really.

I would actually be private messaging this because I felt like I needed to take a little aside with you. But literally as smart as I can be with some things, I'm pretty dumb on even more. Technology or Internet savvy outside of speaking or searching being one of them. As you undoubtedly noted my grammar blows and my spelling is sketchy I guess mostly cause I don't really care anymore… With that said...

Yes I am aware there was a time when you didn't disagree with me much. I'm also aware you even liked a post or two of mine which makes it all the more strange you decided to get pissy with me awhile back. I fancy you're probably the kind a guy that does doesn't like blustering bullshit which I can appreciate.

I also happen to be a devout man of Faith (yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy and truly I feel ashamed of that) and quite frankly I don't like being antagonistic with people but after being gone from this board for two years to come back and find the same people saying the same dumb crap I'm literally tired of it! You say I'm mad because people don't agree with me that is so far from the Truth. I'm in an industry with a management team where we encourage disagreement but I'm gonna tell you this, I don't suffer idiots easily. You better have a basis on what you're saying. At least have decent logic in which case I'll give you lots of love and respect and I'll go out of my way not to make you feel stupid. But if you say that same dumb crap over and over and over after we've already repudiated it soundly there's going to be trouble.

When someone says we didn't throw downfield I went back and looked at tapes yes we did we just didn't complete them.

When someone says we should play more nickel it would change the game I went back and looked at that Stanford game. nickel wouldn't have help we played terrible in that game and I charted every mistake we made on the touchdown plays..

Everything somebody says I go back and look to see if it has merit it & very rarely does and I'm tired of the same ole same o.

I have literally watched 10,000+ football games We are not anymore wildly predictable than anyone else & KF doesn't make wild personnel decisions it's just more and more bullcrap and one I am truly tired of. So yes I'm overbearing and I do apologize you're probably a decent enough guy but if you've got a problem with me the above is why...

Do we sometimes we get to careful, yes but there's about 1000 other great past coaches that have done the same thing so we're not unusual in that regard. Do we refuse to play people that fumble or don't know the playbook yes, but again there's about 1000 other high-end, Hall of Fame type coaches that do the same but people refuse to understand that.

Give you one last thought.....My buddy Pepper was disagreeing with me taking his little pot shots in another thread to which he said something like 30 to 40 D backs get drafted every year seems like a small thing right?

What's the difference between me and him.... I would've never made that statement without actually going and looking at how many actually get drafted every year. Furthermore although I didn't know I still knew instinctually that that was a really low number because I just have that much useless information and experience running around in my head. I debate for a living so I typically don't box myself in so when you say I'm mad because people don't agree with me it's complete & utter BS. But I do have some semblance of what is reality and what isn't without even looking but they clearly don't.

My feeling is if they got criticized as much as this football staff in their lives & their jobs they'd curl up in a ball and give up and I guess this is my way of proving that.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Mostly just because they pop up when I get on YouTube to listen to a song, but also because I've read so much criticism about KF over the years I like to watch some of this stuff just to draw a trend line between what is true and what is perception.

It's remarkable to me how many lowly rated 2-star kids have played in there first and second year on campus.

It's also remarkable how many times we've thrown deep down the field for a coach who has historically not thrown deep down the field or so say the masses....

I'm also seriously surprised and not taking a slight dig when I say we actually had some fairly decent wide receiver's under coaches that the fans widely panned i/e: KOK & Lester Erb?!

Also it struck me, why now after 15 years I don't know but it did all the same how remarkable it was that Brad Banks came to be a stellar quarterback at Iowa at all? If I remember correctly he played wide receiver for a year in junior college. Pretty aggressive coaching if you think about it....

I make a lot of people mad and sometimes I care and to tell you the truth sometimes I don't. Quite frankly people have become so results-oriented that they look at what happened and then they form their hypotheses as a result of that. Typically missing the truth of what is really happening.

Coaches make mistakes and plenty of them but for the most part I don't think they deserve the criticism they get and man do they get a lot of criticism. Honestly I guess that's OK but what people say truly truly baffles me it's like they don't even really watch the game?!

Explain to me how Iowa finally change its end of 1st half approach to play the last two minutes of every half and end up with 65-0 point advantage about 10 or 11 games into the season.

...and the fans don't understand reality. hah!

 

[cmhawks99]

Explain to me how Iowa finally change its end of 1st half approach to play the last two minutes of every half and end up with 65-0 point advantage about 10 or 11 games into the season.

...and the fans don't understand reality. hah!

2 things.....they didn't in every game and I distinctly remember them fumbling a punt against Indiana or NW maybe both several years back and costing themselves a score with about 1 minute left while forcing the issue.

Selective memory is your answer. Yes we were very aggressive this year but we also had the right QB and TEs, WR to get it done. Your point in a nut shell is what I'm talking about.

Results is all fans see, if it works we did it, if it didn't, we didn't!

 

[spbc7]

I would actually be private messaging this because I felt like I needed to take a little aside with you. But literally as smart as I can be with some things, I'm pretty dumb on even more. Technology or Internet savvy outside of speaking or searching being one of them. As you undoubtedly noted my grammar blows and my spelling is sketchy I guess mostly cause I don't really care anymore… With that said...

Yes I am aware there was a time when you didn't disagree with me much. I'm also aware you even liked a post or two of mine which makes it all the more strange you decided to get pissy with me awhile back. I fancy you're probably the kind a guy that does doesn't like blustering bullshit which I can appreciate.

I also happen to be a devout man of Faith (yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy and truly I feel ashamed of that) and quite frankly I don't like being antagonistic with people but after being gone from this board for two years to come back and find the same people saying the same dumb crap I'm literally tired of it! You say I'm mad because people don't agree with me that is so far from the Truth. I'm in an industry with a management team where we encourage disagreement but I'm gonna tell you this, I don't suffer idiots easily. You better have a basis on what you're saying. At least have decent logic in which case I'll give you lots of love and respect and I'll go out of my way not to make you feel stupid. But if you say that same dumb crap over and over and over after we've already repudiated it soundly there's going to be trouble.

When someone says we didn't throw downfield I went back and looked at tapes yes we did we just didn't complete them.

When someone says we should play more nickel it would change the game I went back and looked at that Stanford game. nickel wouldn't have help we played terrible in that game and I charted every mistake we made on the touchdown plays..

Everything somebody says I go back and look to see if it has merit it & very rarely does and I'm tired of the same ole same o.

I have literally watched 10,000+ football games We are not anymore wildly predictable than anyone else & KF doesn't make wild personnel decisions it's just more and more bullcrap and one I am truly tired of. So yes I'm overbearing and I do apologize you're probably a decent enough guy but if you've got a problem with me the above is why...

Do we sometimes we get to careful, yes but there's about 1000 other great past coaches that have done the same thing so we're not unusual in that regard. Do we refuse to play people that fumble or don't know the playbook yes, but again there's about 1000 other high-end, Hall of Fame type coaches that do the same but people refuse to understand that.

Give you one last thought.....My buddy Pepper was disagreeing with me taking his little pot shots in another thread to which he said something like 30 to 40 D backs get drafted every year seems like a small thing right?

What's the difference between me and him.... I would've never made that statement without actually going and looking at how many actually get drafted every year. Furthermore although I didn't know I still knew instinctually that that was a really low number because I just have that much useless information and experience running around in my head. I debate for a living so I typically don't box myself in so when you say I'm mad because people don't agree with me it's complete & utter BS. But I do have some semblance of what is reality and what isn't without even looking but they clearly don't.

My feeling is if they got criticized as much as this football staff in their lives & their jobs they'd curl up in a ball and give up and I guess this is my way of proving that.

Couple things
1) I'll like posts that I strongly agree with and find informative or funny. Obviously you have brought that a couple times and I acknowledged that.
2) I don't disagree with many things you said in the OP, but simply saying "I looked at some tapes" and "I've watched 10,000+ football games" or "there are 1000 other great past coaches" aren't any stronger logic/reasoning than what anybody else has presented. I don't know why you don't realize that. I'm sure my great grandma watched thousands of football games, but she really didn't have much of a clue of what was going on besides the score. There really is no more credibility for your statements than the next guy that has watched thousands of football games if that is your line of reasoning.
3) I would be very worried if the coaching staff cared anything about what fans say on the internet about their team's on-field performance.
4) Take the internet less seriously. It's so much more enjoyable that way. I don't see any point in getting your blood boiling because of how a select handful of posters see a football team. That is what you say, right? It's just football?

 

[cmhawks99]

Couple things
1) I'll like posts that I strongly agree with and find informative or funny. Obviously you have brought that a couple times and I acknowledged that.
2) I don't disagree with many things you said in the OP, but simply saying "I looked at some tapes" and "I've watched 10,000+ football games" or "there are 1000 other great past coaches" aren't any stronger logic/reasoning than what anybody else has presented. I don't know why you don't realize that. I'm sure my great grandma watched thousands of football games, but she really didn't have much of a clue of what was going on besides the score. There really is no more credibility for your statements than the next guy that has watched thousands of football games if that is your line of reasoning.
3) I would be very worried if the coaching staff cared anything about what fans say on the internet about their team's on-field performance.
4) Take the internet less seriously. It's so much more enjoyable that way. I don't see any point in getting your blood boiling because of how a select handful of posters see a football team. That is what you say, right? It's just football?

Quite true in fact truer words have never been spoken. I can't disagree with anything you said other than the eye of the beholder. I only want people to watch the game for what it is... a "game" and quit acting like somehow our dumb old coaches screwed it up. More often than not it always comes down to execution I don't know why they don't like to hear that but it's true all the same.

So while it appears I take it seriously it's people that I take seriously....but alas you're right that's why I disappear.

To tell you the truth I like you and I haven't caught you saying too much that I'm out of line with but you've decided to defend a position that I don't even think you believe in and so I've used the first trick I ever learned in debate which I doubt I'd be telling you much when I say it really doesn't work very good in real life LOL


Have a good night...

 

[DarkThunder#61]

This one hit like Little Boy on Hiroshima

Yeah but it landed in Brazil....and now they have to boycott the Olympics. Nice going....

 

[DarkThunder#61]

When you have 5,200 posts and people have only been compelled to press "like" 53 times on them, it's pretty obvious what people think of your contributions.

If this is a serious argument you're making, does that mean people hold my contributions in even higher regard than yours?

 

[spbc7]

If this is a serious argument you're making, does that mean people hold my contributions in even higher regard than yours?

They should, you're an HR Legend