Biden Commutes Sentences Of 37 Death Row Inmates Says ‘We Must Stop’ Using Death Penalty At Federal Level

[NorthernHawkeye]

Biden Commutes Sentences Of 37 Death Row Inmates Says ‘We Must Stop’ Using Death Penalty At Federal Level

President Joe Biden said, “In good conscience, I cannot stand back and let a new administration resume executions that I halted.”

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[NorthernHawkeye]

Biden further cementing his status as one of the worst presidents in American history.

 

[DooBi]

I agree with the president. We should stop using the death penalty at any level.

 

[Lindemann]

Good. Governments shouldn't kill their own citizens.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I agree with the president. We should stop using the death penalty at any level.

Good. Governments shouldn't kill their own citizens.

Then you guys may find it odd that Biden did NOT commute the sentence of three people.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Do these people "deserve" to die. The answer is yes to most.

The state shouldn't be doing it though.

 

[Aardvark86]

Re pardons:
1. I totally get that the presidents power is absolute, so tough to get too worked up about them ever.
2. But as I’ve thought about the exercise, I think what is bothering me a bit (such that, if I were president…) is the practice of mass “policy based” pardons and commutations. Whether it’s drug offenses, death penalty, j6, or Covid sentences.
3. What bothers me, I suppose, is that these types of grants reflect not simply mercy or case specific factors, but an executive rejection of the law as enacted by Congress, and as applied by prior presidents and judges.

Plenty of problems with the death penalty and at the federal level it’s extremely limited by the eighth amendment

 

[DooBi]

Then you guys may find it odd that Biden did NOT commute the sentence of three people.

That is odd.

 

[DogBoyRy]

I agree with the president. We should stop using the death penalty at any level.

Wrong. Fry those maggots.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Then you guys may find it odd that Biden did NOT commute the sentence of three people.

That is odd.

A real principled man, that Biden fella.

Cue the hardcore lefties tying themselves in knots trying to rationalize it.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Then you guys may find it odd that Biden did NOT commute the sentence of three people.

Which makes no sense.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Re pardons:
1. I totally get that the presidents power is absolute, so tough to get too worked up about them ever.
2. But as I’ve thought about the exercise, I think what is bothering me a bit (such that, if I were president…) is the practice of mass “policy based” pardons and commutations. Whether it’s drug offenses, death penalty, j6, or Covid sentences.
3. What bothers me, I suppose, is that these types of grants reflect not simply mercy or case specific factors, but an executive rejection of the law as enacted by Congress, and as applied by prior presidents and judges.

All very good points.

 

[gohawks50]

These are the 3 he didn't commute:

Dylann Roof, who carried out the 2015 racist slayings of nine Black members of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, 2013 Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Robert Bowers, who fatally shot 11 congregants at Pittsburgh’s Tree of life Synagogue in 2018, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S history.

Lives of all but 3 federal death row inmates spared; Charleston shooter’s sentence stands

President Joe Biden announced Monday that he is commuting the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row.

www.live5news.com

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

These are the 3 he didn't commute:

Dylann Roof, who carried out the 2015 racist slayings of nine Black members of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, 2013 Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Robert Bowers, who fatally shot 11 congregants at Pittsburgh’s Tree of life Synagogue in 2018, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S history.

Lives of all but 3 federal death row inmates spared; Charleston shooter’s sentence stands

President Joe Biden announced Monday that he is commuting the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row.

www.live5news.com

“I am more convinced than ever that we must stop the use of the death penalty at the federal level.”
- Joe Biden

 

[The Tradition]

These are the 3 he didn't commute:

Dylann Roof, who carried out the 2015 racist slayings of nine Black members of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, 2013 Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Robert Bowers, who fatally shot 11 congregants at Pittsburgh’s Tree of life Synagogue in 2018, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S history.

Lives of all but 3 federal death row inmates spared; Charleston shooter’s sentence stands

President Joe Biden announced Monday that he is commuting the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row.

www.live5news.com

What did the ones he commuted do to earn the death penalty?

 

[h-hawk]

Some details -" Biden said he was commuting the sentences of “37 of the 40 individuals on federal death row to life sentences without the possibility of parole.”

 

[gohawks50]

What did the ones he commuted do to earn the death penalty?

“I am more convinced than ever that we must stop the use of the death penalty at the federal level.”
- Joe Biden

I'm not defending his decision not to include those prisoners. I was just curious who they were, I agree with you that it should have been all of them or none.

 

[theiacowtipper]

Then you guys may find it odd that Biden did NOT commute the sentence of three people.

I do. I don’t understand his thinking. The death penalty is wrong no matter the crime.

 

[Finance85]

Good. Governments shouldn't kill their own citizens.

Really? Tell that to Obama who killed a US citizen without any due (judicial) process.

For the record, I believe the death penalty should only be used in cases where there's proof beyond any doubt. There are people who don't deserve to live, just as a rabid dog has to be put down. I recognize there are many people wrongly convicted because of misconduct, incompetence, and mistakes.

 

[gohawks50]

Really? Tell that to Obama who killed a US citizen without any due (judicial) process.

For the record, I believe the death penalty should only be used in cases where there's proof beyond any doubt. There are people who don't deserve to live, just as a rabid dog has to be put down. I recognize there are many people wrongly convicted because of misconduct, incompetence, and mistakes.

Personally I think life in prison without parole would be more punishment than the death penalty.

 

[pablow]

At least seven of the commutations were handed out to federal inmates who murdered fellow inmates.

 

[Scruddy]

Dem ideology:

Killing unborn babies: good
Killing child murderers: bad

We should mock the left more than we do

 

[Rifler]

I agree with the president. We should stop using the death penalty at any level.

Well, that's not what the president said or did...

 

[sober_teacher]

Biden further cementing his status as one of the worst presidents in American history.

sorry, dislike his presidency if you like - commuting death sentences to life in prison isn’t one of them.

Do these people "deserve" to die. The answer is yes to most.

The state shouldn't be doing it though.

Really? Tell that to Obama who killed a US citizen without any due (judicial) process.

For the record, I believe the death penalty should only be used in cases where there's proof beyond any doubt. There are people who don't deserve to live, just as a rabid dog has to be put down. I recognize there are many people wrongly convicted because of misconduct, incompetence, and mistakes.

Because of this I just can’t get behind the death penalty at all. That bar you’re setting to have zero doubt whatsoever is impossibly high to meet imo, especially when you also concede that there are any number of reasons a person can be wrongfully convicted.

 

[Scruddy]

I do. I don’t understand his thinking. The death penalty is wrong no matter the crime.

Cool, so what are your feelings on abortion?

 

[Scruddy]

sorry, dislike his presidency if you like - commuting death sentences to life in prison isn’t one of them.



Because of this I just can’t get behind the death penalty at all. That bar you’re setting to have zero doubt whatsoever is impossibly high to meet imo, especially when you also concede that there are any number of reasons a person can be wrongfully convicted.

So you'd describe yourself as pro life then?

 

[Finance85]

sorry, dislike his presidency if you like - commuting death sentences to life in prison isn’t one of them.



Because of this I just can’t get behind the death penalty at all. That bar you’re setting to have zero doubt whatsoever is impossibly high to meet imo, especially when you also concede that there are any number of reasons a person can be wrongfully convicted.

Florida brought us Ted Bundy. There are other notable examples as well. Yes, my bar is extremely high, but not impossible to achieve.

 

[Rifler]

Because of this I just can’t get behind the death penalty at all. That bar you’re setting to have zero doubt whatsoever is impossibly high to meet imo, especially when you also concede that there are any number of reasons a person can be wrongfully convicted.

I've taken the same position on this topic,.. Our judicial system is far from infallible.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Personally I think life in prison without parole would be more punishment than the death penalty.

I agree but then some of those guys murder other inmates or prison staff.

 

[lucas80]

Good. The death penalty is the most mis-applied, least effective deterrent sentence. It's a waste of money. It's emotionally draining on the staff that are forced to carry out the sentence. I wish Biden had commuted them all and made a clean sweep. Spending your remaining days in a cell is an appropriate punishment.

 

[ZumaHawk]

If it meant so much to Joe Biden to pardon these people he should have when he first became president. He's just being obtuse to do it now.

 

[TailgateTom]

Dem ideology:

Killing unborn babies: good
Killing child murderers: bad

We should mock the left more than we do

Repub Ideology:

Killing unborn babies: bad
Killing school children: good

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Repub Ideology:

Killing unborn babies: bad
Killing school children: good

Gross!

You are a fool!

 

[Scruddy]

Repub Ideology:

Killing unborn babies: bad
Killing school children: good

Weird, I haven't seen a single republican here championing that second ideology. I've even said we should ban the trans from owning guns as a result of all the school shootings (and suicide rate) and the left yells at me in protest. Try harder next time.

 

[Finance85]

Good. The death penalty is the most mis-applied, least effective deterrent sentence. It's a waste of money. It's emotionally draining on the staff that are forced to carry out the sentence. I wish Biden had commuted them all and made a clean sweep. Spending your remaining days in a cell is an appropriate punishment.

The death penalty was a great deterrent for Ted Bundy. Remember, he escaped from two jails before he got to Florida.

 

[Faithnolemore]

Biden doing his best “god” impersonation. Only he forgot about 3 people. Wonder why they were left behind.

 

[sober_teacher]

Florida brought us Ted Bundy. There are other notable examples as well. Yes, my bar is extremely high, but not impossible to achieve.

So why not just put them on life sentences and spare everyone the expenses and added trauma of all the appeals and execution itself?

When we’re talking about executions that don’t happen until decades after their initial convictions, I question the efficacy of the death penalty.

 

[TailgateTom]

Weird, I haven't seen a single republican here championing that second ideology. I've even said we should ban the trans from owning guns as a result of all the school shootings (and suicide rate) and the left yells at me in protest. Try harder next time.

haha you think I'm "left".

 

[Scruddy]

haha you think I'm "left".

I don't recall saying that. Reading comprehension, bro..

 

[gohawks50]

The death penalty was a great deterrent for Ted Bundy. Remember, he escaped from two jails before he got to Florida.

He escaped from a county jail and county courthouse before he ever made it to prison.