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Biden's rescue operation: Leap left to survive

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Since his disastrous debate last month, President Biden has embraced a laundry list of left-wing policy proposals, strong-armed the party's nomination process and still tried to limit spontaneous, unscripted moments.
  • It's saved his candidacy — for now.

Why it matters: Biden's moves have kept top Democrats from stampeding away from him — even as many remain privately uneasy with the 81-year-old president staying at the top of the ticket and serving another term.

  • Amid worries he could lose and drag down Democratic House and Senate candidates with him, just 20 Democrats in Congress have called on him to step aside.
Driving the news: That's partly because of promises that Biden — long a centrist Democrat — has made to his party's progressive wing.

  • Biden said this past week that if he's re-elected, he'd call for legislation to cap landlords' ability to hike rent prices, push for a large-scale elimination of medical debt, and pursue other plans that have been applauded by progressives such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).
Biden's chosen leadership at the Democratic National Committee also is pushing to use an electronic roll call to lock him in as the party's presidential nominee weeks before its convention begins Aug. 19 in Chicago.

  • The sooner Biden is technically the nominee, the sooner he and the party can quash Democratic rebels' push to replace him on the ticket.
Biden's team also has continued to tightly control his public appearances, even as many allies have urged him to be more spontaneous and ditch Teleprompters.

  • Biden's few unscripted moments in front of cameras since the June 27 debate haven't inspired wide confidence, but have been good enough to prevent many more defections.
Zoom in: Biden has done some interviews with subtle crutches.

  • In a phone chat with MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Biden could be heard shuffling papers and acknowledged at one point that he was reading from "a list of lies."
  • In his first interviews after the debate — radio calls with Black radio stations in Philadelphia and Milwaukee — his team later acknowledged it had drafted and pre-submitted the questions to the hosts.
Biden's team also managed his calls with Democratic lawmakers.

  • Mayors and members of Congress could not unmute themselves in recent Zoom calls, as the White House controlled who was able to speak. The White House said that was standard procedure for such group calls.
When the Congressional Hispanic Caucus jumped on a call with Biden, members were informed that "this is a Zoom managed by the Biden campaign."

  • Biden's team said it was indeed controlling the call, but did not ask for nor receive questions in advance.
What they're saying: White House spokesperson Andrew Bates told Axios that "in the last two weeks, President Biden has done a one-hour, in-depth press conference and unscripted interviews with ABC News, 'Morning Joe,' BET, NBC News, Speedy Morman, and the Houston Chronicle."

  • Bates added: "He has spoken off the cuff to world leaders — who highlighted the leadership he showed at NATO — as well as to members of Congress, the AFL-CIO, and to American veterans."
Progressives also have cheered Biden's recent moves.

  • After the Congressional Progressive Caucus had a call with Biden, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) told Axios the president teased many policies the caucus wants — which he said is "not a complete coincidence," based on where Biden is now drawing support on Capitol Hill.
  • "This is his base," Sherman said of the Progressive Caucus, "You see who has called upon him to move on, and who has called upon him to stay, and the Progressive Caucus lines up with those who have asked him to stay."
Sanders penned an effusive op-ed in the New York Times for Biden's re-election over the weekend, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) also has been publicly supportive.

  • Sanders wrote: "Enough! Mr. Biden may not be the ideal candidate, but he will be the candidate and should be the candidate."
The influential Congressional Black Caucus also has largely been effusive in its support.

  • That's given Biden a lifeline with lawmakers representing two of the most important parts of the Democratic Party's base.
Bottom line: Some moderates are frustrated that they'll pay the price if Biden remains at the top of the ticket, unlike many progressives and members of the CBC who are largely in safely Democratic districts.

  • But the Biden team's moves have been sufficient to keep many Democrats from speaking out publicly.
 
It's going to piss MAGA off so bad when Biden sweeps the election in November. Everything they're trying isn't moving the needle for Trump. People realize how much of a failure he is.
 
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It's going to piss MAGA off so bad when Biden sweeps the election in November. Everything they're trying isn't moving the needle for Trump. People realize how much of a failure he is.

I don't share your optimism on Biden's chances although if he were to win, I fear what the response from the right would be. You know they would not accept another Trump loss. Many on the right fully believe that the left is "evil" and fighting against evil can be used to justify extreme action.

I know they are proud that they didn't burn down any cities after Trump was shot but Trump losing would be too much for them to take.
 
It's going to piss MAGA off so bad when Biden sweeps the election in November. Everything they're trying isn't moving the needle for Trump. People realize how much of a failure he is.
Joe can definitely win.

Trumps hard ceiling.

It won't be a Biden "sweep"...it'll be close if he wins. Biden's condition is creating it's own ceiling.

Conventional wisdom says candidates tack to the middle...Joe is tacking to his left wing base. We'll see how it works out.
 
Capping rent increases at 5% annually is hardly a leap left. Medical debt forgiveness won't survive courts. Sounds like he is actually at about the same position. Does Sanders saying Biden will be the candidate actually signal a "leap to the left" for Biden? No.

The article has essentially no meat in it. I hope it was written by AI because it was trash.
 
Capping rent increases at 5% annually is hardly a leap left. Medical debt forgiveness won't survive courts. Sounds like he is actually at about the same position. Does Sanders saying Biden will be the candidate actually signal a "leap to the left" for Biden? No.

The article has essentially no meat in it. I hope it was written by AI because it was trash.
I think the problem is it really isn't something that can be enacted at a federal level. More of a local thing.

I agree with the general concept though.
 
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It's going to piss MAGA off so bad when Biden sweeps the election in November. Everything they're trying isn't moving the needle for Trump. People realize how much of a failure he is.
I agree with this. While I didn't factor assassination attempt into the mix when I said Trump won't win regardless of what happens, I'm still of that view.

In all Biden's ineptitude, I think he still has enough to be at trump. Trump's VP pick didn't help his cause either
 
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Joe can definitely win.

Trumps hard ceiling.

It won't be a Biden "sweep"...it'll be close if he wins. Biden's condition is creating it's own ceiling.

Conventional wisdom says candidates tack to the middle...Joe is tacking to his left wing base. We'll see how it works out.
My assumption is that the Biden's camp feels more comfortable that centrist Dems will show up to vote and is more focused on energizing the far left, who might otherwise stay home.
 
I agree with this. While I didn't factor assassination attempt into the mix when I said Trump won't win regardless of what happens, I'm still of that view.

In all Biden's ineptitude, I think he still has enough to be at trump. Trump's VP pick didn't help his cause either
I view it as a toss up. The talk of a Trump "landslide" is over blown but there's a ceiling on Biden in his current condition.
 
My assumption is that the Biden's camp feels more comfortable that centrist Dems will show up to vote and is more focused on energizing the far left, who might otherwise stay home.
That's most likely the calculous.

They might lose some independents in the process though.

We'll see.
 
Biden might be ok at this point in terms of winning but I am not sure he can survive another public physical/mental break down.
 
Biden has a big D on his forehead. I think the events of this past weekend finished him, there's acceptance of that, and Joe is going to be the sacrificial lamb. Dem House members in close races are worried about the downstream effect of Biden being , or not being, on the ticket.

The Lester Holt interview didn't help. The NAACP event was miserable. He's coming off as bitter, defensive, and very angry. He's also still repeating lies that everyone knows are lies. Why do that? Joe's clearly getting bad advice on how he should project himself to voters.
 
Good luck?


Since his disastrous debate last month, President Biden has embraced a laundry list of left-wing policy proposals, strong-armed the party's nomination process and still tried to limit spontaneous, unscripted moments.
  • It's saved his candidacy — for now.

Why it matters: Biden's moves have kept top Democrats from stampeding away from him — even as many remain privately uneasy with the 81-year-old president staying at the top of the ticket and serving another term.

  • Amid worries he could lose and drag down Democratic House and Senate candidates with him, just 20 Democrats in Congress have called on him to step aside.
Driving the news: That's partly because of promises that Biden — long a centrist Democrat — has made to his party's progressive wing.

  • Biden said this past week that if he's re-elected, he'd call for legislation to cap landlords' ability to hike rent prices, push for a large-scale elimination of medical debt, and pursue other plans that have been applauded by progressives such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).
Biden's chosen leadership at the Democratic National Committee also is pushing to use an electronic roll call to lock him in as the party's presidential nominee weeks before its convention begins Aug. 19 in Chicago.

  • The sooner Biden is technically the nominee, the sooner he and the party can quash Democratic rebels' push to replace him on the ticket.
Biden's team also has continued to tightly control his public appearances, even as many allies have urged him to be more spontaneous and ditch Teleprompters.

  • Biden's few unscripted moments in front of cameras since the June 27 debate haven't inspired wide confidence, but have been good enough to prevent many more defections.
Zoom in: Biden has done some interviews with subtle crutches.

  • In a phone chat with MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Biden could be heard shuffling papers and acknowledged at one point that he was reading from "a list of lies."
  • In his first interviews after the debate — radio calls with Black radio stations in Philadelphia and Milwaukee — his team later acknowledged it had drafted and pre-submitted the questions to the hosts.
Biden's team also managed his calls with Democratic lawmakers.

  • Mayors and members of Congress could not unmute themselves in recent Zoom calls, as the White House controlled who was able to speak. The White House said that was standard procedure for such group calls.
When the Congressional Hispanic Caucus jumped on a call with Biden, members were informed that "this is a Zoom managed by the Biden campaign."

  • Biden's team said it was indeed controlling the call, but did not ask for nor receive questions in advance.
What they're saying: White House spokesperson Andrew Bates told Axios that "in the last two weeks, President Biden has done a one-hour, in-depth press conference and unscripted interviews with ABC News, 'Morning Joe,' BET, NBC News, Speedy Morman, and the Houston Chronicle."

  • Bates added: "He has spoken off the cuff to world leaders — who highlighted the leadership he showed at NATO — as well as to members of Congress, the AFL-CIO, and to American veterans."
Progressives also have cheered Biden's recent moves.

  • After the Congressional Progressive Caucus had a call with Biden, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) told Axios the president teased many policies the caucus wants — which he said is "not a complete coincidence," based on where Biden is now drawing support on Capitol Hill.
  • "This is his base," Sherman said of the Progressive Caucus, "You see who has called upon him to move on, and who has called upon him to stay, and the Progressive Caucus lines up with those who have asked him to stay."
Sanders penned an effusive op-ed in the New York Times for Biden's re-election over the weekend, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) also has been publicly supportive.

  • Sanders wrote: "Enough! Mr. Biden may not be the ideal candidate, but he will be the candidate and should be the candidate."
The influential Congressional Black Caucus also has largely been effusive in its support.

  • That's given Biden a lifeline with lawmakers representing two of the most important parts of the Democratic Party's base.
Bottom line: Some moderates are frustrated that they'll pay the price if Biden remains at the top of the ticket, unlike many progressives and members of the CBC who are largely in safely Democratic districts.

  • But the Biden team's moves have been sufficient to keep many Democrats from speaking out publicly.
It's whomever is pulling his strings! Wrap your head around voting for someone when you have no clue who you're actually voting for!
 
Would his Supreme Court changes require an amendment to constitution?
That is the most obvious path. There is some discussion of a House Resolution being possible based on interpretation of the Supreme Court oversight by Congress
 
Where will they find constitutional justification for federal control of rental costs?,.. Not seeing it.
They’ll mumble something about interstate commerce and assume the power like they have so many others since the 1930s.
 
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I don't see how he can go any further left. At least that's what I've been told by our resident MAGAs.
Exactly, Marx would blush at the list of policies discussed in the article.
 
They’ll mumble something about interstate commerce and assume the power like they have so many others since the 1930s.

Property rent would be affixed to a singular physical location within in a specific US state,.. How does interstate commerce come into play?,... Not seeing it.
 
Property rent would be affixed to a singular physical location within in a specific US state,.. How does interstate commerce come into play?,... Not seeing it.

Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942)​

 
It all rings hollow. The voters that he needs to show up have already been lied to through his student loan pandering. First it was a campaign promise to forgive $10k immediately, then he strung them along to try and get them to vote in the midterms, then his plan was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2023, now my understanding is that his "SAVE" plan has been put on life support.

He lacks credibility with 40+ million voters that had student loan debt and bought into him solving it....which is why none of this past week's vote for me and I'll fix _____ issue is going to work.
 
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Where will they find constitutional justification for federal control of rental costs?,.. Not seeing it.

It will die in courts too. It will all die in courts. If it helps regular people it will die an extra painful death.
 
It's going to piss MAGA off so bad when Biden sweeps the election in November. Everything they're trying isn't moving the needle for Trump. People realize how much of a failure he is.
Won't disappoint me at all. The next four years are going to be a "hoot" politically, no matter who is president.
 
Property rent would be affixed to a singular physical location within in a specific US state,.. How does interstate commerce come into play?,... Not seeing it.

Seems they are planning to do it through the federal tax code. Basically if you comply with the cap then you can take accelerated depreciation which you will not be able to do if you do not comply.
 
I'm just hoping for 4 more years of gridlock with Biden so we can hopefully reset in 2028.
I don't hate this idea, just worry if anything pops off globally- who is calling the shots? I just don't think it will actually be Biden?
 
I don't hate this idea, just worry if anything pops off globally- who is calling the shots? I just don't think it will actually be Biden?

I assume military leadership draws up plans and presidents greenlight bigger missions, new wars, or withdraws. He probably takes it all under advisement from his cabinet and when enough people are on board it gets the go ahead. Probably pretty similar for Trump but with more nefarious folk around him.
 
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I assume military leadership draws up plans and presidents greenlight bigger missions, new wars, or withdraws. He probably takes it all under advisement from his cabinet and when enough people are on board it gets the go ahead. Probably pretty similar for Trump but with more nefarious folk around him.
Well sure- but who’s meeting with the other world leaders I guess?

I’m not saying the alternative is better by any means- just expressing a concern (valid or not who knows)
 
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