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Big Ten Media Poll:

Standings (first-place votes in parenthesis):

1. Illinois 376 (16)

2. Iowa 350 (6)

3. Wisconsin 347 (6)

4. Michigan State 323

5. Rutgers 249

6. Michigan 241

7. Ohio State 229

8. Indiana 212

9. Purdue 179

10. Maryland 141

11. Minnesota 121

12. Penn State 72

13. Nebraska 54

14. Northwestern 47



Resounding vote for Illinois.
 
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Jaycg15 said:
Big Ten Media Poll:

Standings (first-place votes in parenthesis):

1. Illinois 376 (16)

2. Iowa 350 (6)

3. Wisconsin 347 (6)

4. Michigan State 323

5. Rutgers 249

6. Michigan 241

7. Ohio State 229

8. Indiana 212

9. Purdue 179

10. Maryland 141

11. Minnesota 121

12. Penn State 72

13. Nebraska 54

14. Northwestern 47



Resounding vote for Illinois.
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I would put Iowa at #3 or #4
 
DodgerHawki said:
We shall see. Wisconsin was 2 games better than Illinois last year and 3 games better than Iowa, and Badgers return just about everybody.
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Wisconsin was 1 game better than Illinois, 3 games better than Iowa, and of the top 4 teams, only played MSU 2x. They finished the year playing 8 straight teams that finished 7th or lower in conference (7, 14, 10, 8, 9, 12, 13, 11). I think they're good, but they're not as strong as their record leads you to believe.
 
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Jaycg15 said:
Wisconsin was 1 game better than Illinois, 3 games better than Iowa, and of the top 4 teams, only played MSU 2x. They finished the year playing 8 straight teams that finished 7th or lower in conference (7, 14, 10, 8, 9, 12, 13, 11). I think they're good, but they're not as strong as their record leads you to believe.
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Thats really good information, thanks for posting. I wondered how they won 8 straight down the stretch!

All that said....this will be the prototypical Wisconsin championship level team....tons of experience along with some talent in that system. The schedule, COVID, and injuries will have as big an effect on their success as the competition.... and the B10 will be a meat grinder.
 
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There will be no better team at closing out games than Iowa. If they have a lead late, book it. Besides the likely Player of the Year, some very good talent and depth, you may have the best free throw shooting team in the country, and that means something. I believe that will set them apart from the others in the Big Ten. My opinion.
 
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ChiPackHawk said:
There will be no better team at closing out games than Iowa. If they have a lead late, book it. Besides the likely Player of the Year, some very good talent and depth, you may have the best free throw shooting team in the country, and that means something. I believe that will set them apart from the others in the Big Ten. My opinion.
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Agree with this....then add JBO and his ability to make clutch shots...
 
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Burbank84 said:
Iowa needs Joe Toussaint to take the "next step" this year to provide sorely needed defensive quickness in the backcourt. IMO, that is the key to the season.
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If that's all that's needed, with Joe T, A Ulis and T Perkins you'll have that covered easily.
Chalk us up for 25-0 to start things rolling..........
 
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#2 seems a bit high, but it's a virtual tie with wisky so it's not unreasonable. I would put them at 3-4.

I much prefer them to be the dark horse than a favorite to win it.

Now let's just hope we can get enough of a season played for it to matter!
 
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I expect Iowa to do better in the NCAA's than the Big. I think Fran builds his teams that way and this team is the most prototypical team he has put together. Great offensively, great shooters, weak defensively, not really physical (compared to the rest of the Big).
 
Mohawkeye said:
I expect Iowa to do better in the NCAA's than the Big. I think Fran builds his teams that way and this team is the most prototypical team he has put together. Great offensively, great shooters, weak defensively, not really physical (compared to the rest of the Big).
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If you're right, I'm perfectly OK with that trade off.

I'd take a 3rd place B1G finish if the end game resulted in a Final Four appearance any day of the week.
 
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Jaycg15 said:
Wisconsin was 1 game better than Illinois, 3 games better than Iowa, and of the top 4 teams, only played MSU 2x. They finished the year playing 8 straight teams that finished 7th or lower in conference (7, 14, 10, 8, 9, 12, 13, 11). I think they're good, but they're not as strong as their record leads you to believe.
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In terms of quality, they were very close to Illinois and Iowa, I agree. But what Wisconsin does and Iowa does not do is go ahead and win all those types of games against those teams in the lower part of the conference. Iowa lost twice to Purdue, and wasn't really competitive in either one. Iowa lost at Nebraska. Iowa lost at Indiana. Iowa lost at Penn State. Wisconsin split with Purdue, and won all those other games that Iowa lost. That is why they won the conference. I dislike them, but they play at a consistent level better than Iowa or Illinois does. It comes back to defending. When you can't guard bad/middling teams, they get confident and you end up losing games that perhaps you shouldn't.
 
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Fran_Man said:
I said I expect them to finish 4th. Getting 1 year older doesn’t automatically mean championship level defense. I hope I am wrong. Don’t get mad at me for realistic expectations. Having unrealistic expectations makes the season a lot less enjoyable.
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4th in this years big 10 is a sweet 16 team.
 
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Mohawkeye said:
I expect Iowa to do better in the NCAA's than the Big. I think Fran builds his teams that way and this team is the most prototypical team he has put together. Great offensively, great shooters, weak defensively, not really physical (compared to the rest of the Big).
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Will be interesting to see how no fans change the way games are called and how players/coaches alter their behaviors.
 
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Legend12 said:
Will be interesting to see how no fans change the way games are called and how players/coaches alter their behaviors.
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I'm only making an assumption here, but having the crowd noise pumped into the broadcasts will be somewhat disappointing as I'd love to hear what a couple of the opposing coaches say to refs almost constantly. And yes, I'm 100% talking about Izzo.
 
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Fran_Man said:
I said I expect them to finish 4th. Getting 1 year older doesn’t automatically mean championship level defense. I hope I am wrong. Don’t get mad at me for realistic expectations. Having unrealistic expectations makes the season a lot less enjoyable.
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I don’t recall mentioning your expectations.
 
Legend12 said:
Will be interesting to see how no fans change the way games are called and how players/coaches alter their behaviors.
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The one thing about Iowa, they have experience. Many of their players have had redshirt seasons and that should help them overcome any lack of fans in the stands.
As for how the games are called, that's a question that is asked every year, new points of emphasize on how the game is called is always evolving and this season will be no different. Players will adjust like they always do.....
The X factor for Iowa is Luka Garza, there is no team in the BIG, including Wisconsin or Illinois that has a big as skilled offensively as Garza and that's a fact. Sure, those teams have talented centers, absolutely, but the quality of centers that were on every BIG team last year is not there this season, how teams defend Garza and also defend our shooters is going to be interesting, let the games begin!
 
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Legend12 said:
Will be interesting to see how no fans change the way games are called and how players/coaches alter their behaviors.
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I wonder if refs will have to call more fouls now with no one in attendance. All the slaps made before will now be way to obvious not to call. If so I'd say advantage Iowa with Luka down low.
 
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The lack of fans should help remove emotion from refs’ calls and getting swept up in the excitement generated by home fans. It should remove a lot of the home court advantage that has been huge for Big Ten teams over the past few years (was it last year or the year before where a road team didn’t even have a win like halfway through Big Ten play?). Have to think this favors Iowa more often than not as the better team should be more likely to win games
 
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BBHawk said:
This is why they play the games. Iowa has ALWAYS overachieved under McC relative to polls like this. This year there is only one spot above them in this poll. I view this as good news.
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by what objective evidence do you suggest they always overachieve preseason polls?

Curious because I wouldn't even know where to look. Per KenPom Fran has been slightly more likely to underperform preseason rank compared to end of season rank, but pretty close to even.
 
It "appears" like the good players...big reputation like Luka, get some calls in their favor from the refs. This should benefit us this year AND reduce the influence of a crow that is right on top of the refs and their calls like MSU....I just watched the MSU game from last year. Izzo was RIDING the refs HARD from the start. This is the game where even Dan D said Izzo was out of control and commented that the ref did a good job telling Izzy to shut up...
 
perryhawk said:
It "appears" like the good players...big reputation like Luka, get some calls in their favor from the refs. This should benefit us this year AND reduce the influence of a crow that is right on top of the refs and their calls like MSU....I just watched the MSU game from last year. Izzo was RIDING the refs HARD from the start. This is the game where even Dan D said Izzo was out of control and commented that the ref did a good job telling Izzy to shut up...
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One thing I anticipate, is being able to hear opposing coaches voices, yelling at the refs, being heard more on the televised games. Izzo's rants to the refs should be very interesting to say the least...
 
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blockm2 said:
by what objective evidence do you suggest they always overachieve preseason polls?

Curious because I wouldn't even know where to look. Per KenPom Fran has been slightly more likely to underperform preseason rank compared to end of season rank, but pretty close to even.
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The poll this thread is about?
 
perryhawk said:
It "appears" like the good players...big reputation like Luka, get some calls in their favor from the refs. This should benefit us this year AND reduce the influence of a crow that is right on top of the refs and their calls like MSU....I just watched the MSU game from last year. Izzo was RIDING the refs HARD from the start. This is the game where even Dan D said Izzo was out of control and commented that the ref did a good job telling Izzy to shut up...
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Agree Perry. Obviously happens at the pro level, but it exists in college as well. Both for players and coaches.
There's no way a young coach with minimal established rep would get away with the crap that Izzo does. I think he's proved himself a great coach over time. But that shouldn't result in him being able to pull the sh!t that he does sometimes during games.
 
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It "appears" like the good players...big reputation like Luka, get some calls in their favor from the refs. This should benefit us this year AND reduce the influence of a crow that is right on top of the refs and their calls like MSU....I just watched the MSU game from last year. Izzo was RIDING the refs HARD from the start. This is the game where even Dan D said Izzo was out of control and commented that the ref did a good job telling Izzy to shut up...
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Last season Luka had the 31st most FT attempts in the nation at 6.29/game, which given the amount he was assaulted on a regular basis, seems low to me. I remember several trips down the court when he was fouled more than once on the same possession without anything being called.
 
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