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Has there ever been a bigger beat down after the first round in tourney history. than Purdue's?
 
Who cares, they were there. I would give my left nut to see Iowa in that situation again. Been a LONG TIME!
 
I guess that beat down probably seals Swanigan's fate in his quest for the national player of the year race.
 
They got their butts kicked, that's for sure.
They did play to their seed, though. I don't think they have anything to hang their heads about. kansas is a better team, by a fair margin. That was reflected in the outcome.
 
They hung around for a while but then the flood gates just opened up. Kansas was hot and PU struggled. PU had good looks and moved the ball well but just couldn't get shots to fall and KU took it off the rim and pushed it down their throat.

Just one of those games where you know you got beat. But remember all those guys are back except Mathias and Spike. Swanigan might go pro but I don't think he is athletic enough to play in the NBA. Runs slow and plays below the rim.

I know, so did Larry Bird but Swanigan is no Larry Bird.
 
Swanigan plays no defense, no way he is National Player of the Year. The guy is an offensive threat only. Deonte Burton put Caleb Swanigan in the "spin cycle" and made him look slow- in his current form Swanigan has no shot at the NBA.
 
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Swanigan plays no defense, no way he is National Player of the Year. The guy is an offensive threat only. Denote Burton put Caleb Swanigan in the "spin cycle" and made him look slow- in his current form Swanigan has no shot at the NBA.

Agree, he just so slow footed and not real coordinated or athletic.

His outside shot does make up for some of his short comings though.
 
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Has there ever been a bigger beat down after the first round in tourney history. than Purdue's?

Not in the NCAA tournament, but I lived in Spartanland in high school during one of the ugliest moments in Michigan State history and most lopsided losses there which probably directly lead to Judd Heathcoate being brought in as a new coach and bringing on a complete rebuild of the basketball program with Magic Johnson, Greg Kelser, and Jay Vincent heralding their best years in the years to follow.

The ugly moment was when just about the whole Spartan team walked out when previous coach Ganakas started a very young white Jeff Tropf over some more experienced black players on the team, and they had to play a team with many JV players against #2 ranked Indiana and lost 107-55.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/...015/01/07/msu-basketball-jeff-tropf/21407327/

Keep in mind that when those players were playing, especially the late Terry Furlow, they were a pretty good team then, with Furlow setting an Iowa Fieldhouse record as well as a Spartan team record of scoring 50 points in Iowa City in January 6, 1976.

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/7598172/
 
Considering that the game might as well have been a home game for Kansas, the outcome did not surprise me. Might as well have played in Lawrence.
 
Considering that the game might as well have been a home game for Kansas, the outcome did not surprise me. Might as well have played in Lawrence.

It would seem that way as Kansas will have the fans for sure. For all the success Self and company has during the regular season Kansas City has not been particularly friendly to them in the conference tournament the last four years with their seniors. Kansas only won the conference tournament once for a 6-3 record with Iowa State winning the tournament the other three years for a 9-1 record for their seniors. ISU defeated Kansas in two of those three tournament wins but TCU did the job in the first round this year so they didn't have to play them. Kansas may not feel as comfortable there as you might think.

I don’t know if Kansas played any preseason games there or not.
 
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Swanigan plays no defense, no way he is National Player of the Year. The guy is an offensive threat only. Deonte Burton put Caleb Swanigan in the "spin cycle" and made him look slow- in his current form Swanigan has no shot at the NBA.
Swanigan is one of the finalists along with Frank Mason III of Kansas, Lonzo Ball of UCLA and Villanova's Josh Hart.

Interesting article on the subject. The guy that wrote it thinks Swanigan might be the winner, though Mason is the only one still playing ball.

There were five that were lists as finalists a few weeks ago and I didn't think anyone was to be dropped until the award was given in early April. Don't remember who the 5th finalist was.

I pasted the link to the article but it won't appear. You can find it at the Bleacher Report titled 2017 Naismith Trophy: Lonzo Ball headlines list of finalists.
 
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Swanigan is one of the finalists along with Frank Mason III of Kansas, Lonzo Ball of UCLA and Villanova's Josh Hart.

Interesting article on the subject. The guy that wrote it thinks Swanigan might be the winner, though Mason is the only one still playing ball.

There were five that were lists as finalists a few weeks ago and I didn't think anyone was to be dropped until the award was given in early April. Don't remember who the 5th finalist was.

I pasted the link to the article but it won't appear. You can find it at the Bleacher Report titled 2017 Naismith Trophy: Lonzo Ball headlines list of finalists.
Swanigan is a great offensive player. He is a great feel good story. He plays for the top team in the B1G conference. In my opinion, Caleb Swanigan is multi-dimensional offensive player. He is not a complete player- just as Lonzo Ball is an offensive oriented guy who has no heart for playing defense. After saying all of that, I would bet that Caleb Swanigan has a good chance to win POY.
 
I really regret the way ISU played in the first 25 minutes against Purdue. Give the Boilers credit, don't get me wrong. But ISU should have been running more, pushing the pace. Like they did in the last 15 minutes.

Would have liked to see a rubber match with the Jayhawks. Based on the past, the crowd would have been at least 50-50, and the teams matched up well. (KU won a close game in Hilton and ISU won in overtime at AFH).

But the way KU was shooting Thursday, I'm not sure anybody could have beaten them. And it was a financial success for LC; I bought four tickets for face value ($1,200) last spring. The cost of three days in KC would have made it a $2,000 trip or thereabouts. Instead, I sold the tickets on StubHub -- didn't get greedy -- and ended up about $800 to the good, a $2,800 swing.

Would I have rather been $2,800 poorer and had the Cyclones advance? Now that is a question for the ages.
 
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