Originally posted by Lone Clone:
Originally posted by slieb85:
Originally posted by Lone Clone:
Originally posted by slieb85:
It is embarrassing that people would rather give to someone who is in a bad position, solely because they're bigots, than someone who is more than likely in a terrible position because of circumstances beyond their control (obviously MANY exceptions to this).
Also, I thought I saw a stat recently that when you take away giving to churches, R's give far less than D's? Anyone else see that or was I dreaming that?
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LOL.
1. Your statement in the first sentence identifies who the bigot is (hint: the last two letters of the bigot's name are 85). The pizza folks are in trouble solely because they are under attack by intolerant , uninformed people.
2. Considering what percentage of charities are affiliated with churches, the second statement is kind of a dumb stipulation. That's like saying more people die from being struck by lightning than by drowning, if you don't count accidents that happen near water.
Seriously, you aren't just eliminating donations to churches so they can build cathedrals. You're eliminating donations to Boys Town, St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital, the Salvation Army, et al.
3. Regarding (2) again, the statement is wrong, anyway. One survey showed that if religious-affiliated charities are excluded, Democrats give SLIGHTLY more than Republicans. And if we're playing that game, let's see how much of the money given to "education" is in the former of donations to college athletics departments.
I'm linking a column by a NY Times liberal columnist that might serve to educate those who need educating.
Who am I bigoted against? Slow minded ex-shitty newspaper columnists?
I wouldn't exclude those charities. I would exclude the giving that goes to St. Edward's on Kimball Ave.
I don't know the study, I wasn't saying that last piece sarcastically or rhetorically. I was asking an honest question. It's good that you have informed me more on this issue. Maybe you should try that more often, instead of being a simple minded Republican mouthpiece. I'm fully willing and able to be persuaded, I just don't sit around gulping down the rhetoric that you usually post. Give me something of substance with sound logic and I'll most certainly take advantage.
I'll read the column later and try to post back. But remember, this isn't even a liberal/conservative thing. It's a discrimination issue.
Unless you're trying to say that only the Republicans discriminate against gays, which I don't believe.
You are bigoted against people who don't share your views on religion and same-sex marriage. That's pretty clear. If you were bigoted against slow-minded newspaper columnists, you would be criticizing the writers who are bashing the pizza people, not lining up with them.
I am not familiar with St. Edward's on Kimball Ave., and thus don't understand your reference. You, not I, raised the point of religiously based charities, in an effort to minimize the disparity in charitable giving. You seem to see religious charities as s omehow inherently inferior -- another example of your bigotry.
No, you are wrong about the basis of this discussion -- the one between the two of us. What we're talking about here is most definitely not a discrimination issue, because what we're talking about here is charitable giving, and the reason it was raised was the libera/conservative aspect.
Not sure where this statement came from, but I think studies have shown significantly more acceptance of homosexuality by Democrats -- especially white Democrats -- than by Republicans, but that's a far cry from saying that only Republicans discriminat against gays.
