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Bohannon's numbers about to become historic & rank as best in nation among freshmen

Certainly the surprise of the year for me. He doesn't fit the mold of a great point guard but man does he have a sweet shot and ice in his veins. He is going to be the Aaron Craft of Iowa but with opposite skills. Opposing teams are going to hate him and it'll seem like he's played 10 years by the time he is done.
 
Jordan Bohannon is one of ten freshmen nationally with 50 3-pointers this year.

He is three triples from setting the Iowa freshman record.

Freshmen this season with 100+ assists, 50+ 3-pointers:
***UCLA's Lonzo Ball (176 asts, 53 3's)
***Iowa's Jordan Bohannon (107 asts, 50 3's)

Source: https://twitter.com/IowaHoops

Can't be. He was only a 3* recruit.
No way a 3* guy is going to contribute and compare to 5* guys. Not happenin'

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Bohannon is a warrior out there. Love his intensity and hustle. Plus his range and fearlessness on the 3 have been amazing so far. He has taken a few shot that for the vast majority of players would be consider bad shot selection. However, for him the shots have fallen so I say keep giving him the green light.
 
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WHere are those Hoops expert who questioned Jordan's offer
by Fran??
LOL............(maybe they're Clone fans now??)

GO HAWKS:)

Haven't seen CyCity around here for a long time.

Then there are the folks who want to put him at the two. If Jok comes away beat up and broken from all the grabbing and worse while he tries to get open, and from defending some tough guys, what's gonna happen J Bo?

Jordan is a Combo Guard. But in the Big Ten he can't be unless we've got a big point guard to keep things even, or as close as they can get to even.

Enter Conner McCaffery. And the plan, maybe, starts to make sense.
 
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Haven't seen CyCity around here for a long time.

Then there are the folks who want to put him at the two. If Jok comes away beat up and broken from all the grabbing and worse while he tries to get open, and from defending some tough guys, what's gonna happen J Bo?

Jordan is a Combo Guard. But in the Big Ten he can't be unless we've got a big point guard to keep things even, or as close as they can get to even.

Enter Conner McCaffery. And the plan, maybe, starts to make sense.

All of our other guards are big so if/when Moss, Daily and Williams get better at handling the ball and taking it in the lane Jordan will benefit by getting more open 3s.
 
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Certainly the surprise of the year for me. He doesn't fit the mold of a great point guard but man does he have a sweet shot and ice in his veins. He is going to be the Aaron Craft of Iowa but with opposite skills. Opposing teams are going to hate him and it'll seem like he's played 10 years by the time he is done.

I agree, he is a surprise to me as well.

So are these;
CW losing his starting spot to JoBo so quickly
Moss starting; who saw that coming?

Also, Pemsl and Kriener have played better than I thought.
 
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I agree, he is a surprise to me as well.

So are these;
CW losing his starting spot to JoBo so quickly
Moss starting; who saw that coming?

Also, Pemsl and Kriener have played better than I thought.

The biggest surprise to me is CW's struggles. Though I think I'm seeing some improvement.
 
sometimes when he comes in I think he is trying too hard to impress the coaches and bad things happen

There is something I can't put my finger on. I thought it was his back issues for awhile, but that no longer seems the case. Is it a Clemmon's soph year thing? I don't know.
 
Jordan and Cordell have very good chemistry on the BB court.

known each other and played together quite a bit on the AAU (or whatever it's called these days) circuit. fun to watch kids when they know what the other one is going to do. some of the assists Jordan has had to Cordell likely wouldn't have happened if it was someone else simply due to knowing each other so well.
 
Completely disagree with you...it matters....there is a responsibility and mindset that comes with playing PG. CW is obviously not comfortable in that role. There is more to being a PG than just bringing the ball up the court.

Cool. We can disagree on the why's, no big deal.
 
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There is something I can't put my finger on. I thought it was his back issues for awhile, but that no longer seems the case. Is it a Clemmon's soph year thing? I don't know.

i don't know either; i cant remember the last time he made a jump shot; the dunks are nice, but....
 
There is something I can't put my finger on. I thought it was his back issues for awhile, but that no longer seems the case. Is it a Clemmon's soph year thing? I don't know.

He doesn't look 'relaxed' in his court movement bringing the ball up and running the offense. He always looks like he's in a hurry. Very much like Uhl when he gets the ball - seems 'hurried' or rushed.

Bohannon looks more relaxed with the ball. Very much the same with Pemsl or Cook when they get the ball - the aren't panicking about what they are going to do...they are naturally working for a shot but at the same time are watching the defense react and looking for a passing opportunity.

That seems like the case with some guys when they're too worried about making a mistake than in letting the game unfold and getting in the reps to just know how to react and which direction to pass the ball.

This is why so many of the 'give and go' and the 'moving to the basket right after you set the screen' is working so well with several of the young guys - they are now immediately recognizing where the defense is cheating and know exactly where to move to get a pass and a bucket. This is all about court awareness and recognizing the defensive schemes in an instant and being able to move w/o the ball, as well as with the ball to exploit the defensive switch-offs for a good shot.
 
Great comments. And thanks Joes Place, that made a lot of sense to me.

It's a good thing Bohannon came in so ready to play. I'm counting on Conner to have an edge on preparation when he arrives as well.
 
I think a lot of that is also 'court vision' and looking at where your other players are as well as their defenders, rather than just the guy guarding you and the one or two who will step in on you if you're able to beat your guy. And that also has to do with just practicing several basic moves (dribbling skills, pivoting skills, moving the ball around) so that you don't even thing about any of it - it's all natural movement, so that you can completely focus on the other stuff happening on the court.

If you have to 'think' about the move you're going to make, you're not able to do much else with the ball but focus on that specific movement. This always seemed like what happened with Woodbury in the paint, too - he started overthinking what he was doing with the ball instead of reacting and having the muscle memory to play more naturally. He'd focus too much on 'making the move right' than just trusting his training and being able to find an open guy. Woodbury was a pretty good passer, but not a big post scoring threat. Both Pemsl and Cook seem very natural and relaxed with post moves in the paint - that's something that lots of big men can take a year or more of college ball to develop, particularly against comparable talent.

I always liked Woody, and felt like he wasn't ever reaching his full potential, for whatever reasons.
 
Joe, would you say that the old thing about the game slowing down applies to CW and Dom?
 
Bohannon has ice in his veins. Great to watch a young player with such a high-level of confidence in his shot. On offense in the half-court, he will really benefit from developing a shot when driving to the basket rather than nearly always looking to dish. On the other hand, Williams has no confidence in his perimeter game & defenders do not respect his shot. Makes him very one dimensional running the offense, either motion or sets.
 
Totally agree with Joe. It seems as I've watched both CW and Dom that they don't trust their ball handling.

I've noticed several times that CW ends up having to turn his back to the offense to protect the ball from quicker guards rather than getting low in an athletic position ready to react and blow by any steal attempts.

When he does, our offense stalls since he isn't able to see plays develop.

Uhl's issue occurs when he drives. He doesn't keep his head up to see help defense to find clean drop offs or kick outs. He's good enough to usually get to the rim, but if he doesn't it creates some awkward pivots to find an outlet.
 
Bo is a baller. Been playing ball since birth, and has 3 brothers that showed him the way. I'm amazed at how comfortable he looks out there on the court.

He has court savvy and a sweet jumper. If he can learn to penetrate effectively he can be all-B1G before he's done.
 
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There is something I can't put my finger on. I thought it was his back issues for awhile, but that no longer seems the case. Is it a Clemmon's soph year thing? I don't know.

He just doesn't handle the ball well enough to go by small quicker players. Against guys his own height he is much better.

If hes going to keep playing pg then he needs to learn how to keep his body inbetween the ball and the defender rather than trying to face up. Magic Johnson operated this way allot.
 
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I think a lot of that is also 'court vision' and looking at where your other players are as well as their defenders, rather than just the guy guarding you and the one or two who will step in on you if you're able to beat your guy. And that also has to do with just practicing several basic moves (dribbling skills, pivoting skills, moving the ball around) so that you don't even thing about any of it - it's all natural movement, so that you can completely focus on the other stuff happening on the court.

If you have to 'think' about the move you're going to make, you're not able to do much else with the ball but focus on that specific movement. This always seemed like what happened with Woodbury in the paint, too - he started overthinking what he was doing with the ball instead of reacting and having the muscle memory to play more naturally. He'd focus too much on 'making the move right' than just trusting his training and being able to find an open guy. Woodbury was a pretty good passer, but not a big post scoring threat. Both Pemsl and Cook seem very natural and relaxed with post moves in the paint - that's something that lots of big men can take a year or more of college ball to develop, particularly against comparable talent.

I always liked Woody, and felt like he wasn't ever reaching his full potential, for whatever reasons.

CW isn't comfortable dribbling against other pgs so his concentration is on not turning it over vs looking to make a pass.

Once he gets out of the PG spot he'll be able to handle with out thinking about it as much.
 
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He doesn't look 'relaxed' in his court movement bringing the ball up and running the offense. He always looks like he's in a hurry. Very much like Uhl when he gets the ball - seems 'hurried' or rushed.

Bohannon looks more relaxed with the ball. Very much the same with Pemsl or Cook when they get the ball - the aren't panicking about what they are going to do...they are naturally working for a shot but at the same time are watching the defense react and looking for a passing opportunity.

That seems like the case with some guys when they're too worried about making a mistake than in letting the game unfold and getting in the reps to just know how to react and which direction to pass the ball.

This is why so many of the 'give and go' and the 'moving to the basket right after you set the screen' is working so well with several of the young guys - they are now immediately recognizing where the defense is cheating and know exactly where to move to get a pass and a bucket. This is all about court awareness and recognizing the defensive schemes in an instant and being able to move w/o the ball, as well as with the ball to exploit the defensive switch-offs for a good shot.

I agree; CW seems to be in a hurry and he seems to be trying to prove that he deserves more playing time; its gonna be hard, though, to take away minutes from JoBo; so where can he get more minutes? Surely not at the 2; at the 3, maybe? I just dont' like his lack of a jump shot

As we saw last night, Cook sometimes is slow to pass the ball out to the open shooter when he is doubled; he will learn over time

it makes me wonder how CW does in practice; REMEMBER that Kriener started seeing the court more based on his great practices
 
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