They are going to be paid. Period. It's been settled.
Like it or don't, it's not changing.
Brad paying out of pocket?
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Like it or don't, it's not changing.
So we should pay - and keep paying - for an inferior product, and not only that but still only mostly get kids with mid-major levels kind of talent & athleticism?
To each their own, but that makes zero sense to me.
I personally don't continue paying premium price(s) for inferior products or services. That's just foolish.
My biggest question is why did Swarm (Brad) enter into contracts that were not already funded? That seems like mismanagement if Swarm offered a player $XXX that they knew they didn't have and didn't have a plan as to where that money was going to come from. Did Swarm really do this or is it more a matter of people that had signed up for recurring donations that stopped those donations? This I could understand a little bit but it can't be a huge amount and Swarm shouldn't be operating so close to zero that they can't fulfill existing contracts with athletes.
As a consumer, I am under zero obligation to pay for anything I dont require or desire. As several people have mentioned - times have changed and so has my attitude. I dont need the nonsense of nil in my life and refuse to pay one penny to sustain this archaic, absurd system. MBB is essentially dead to me and I have filled the void quite nicely. I also dont fear the demise of other Iowa sports anymore either. My identity and sense of self worth doesnt hinge on 20 year old mercenary participants assembled on a yearly basis and then moving on. Its too bad but, yes, times have changed and I opt out. To each their own and cancelling multiple subscription media just to engage this shyte show is frosting on the cake. To all the ‘slow white’ guys from Iowa - thanks for the memories!
Of course not. You don’t have to do anything with your time or money.
But if you don’t care enough to support the team and help make the program better, then you shouldn’t care enough to come on this board to tear the program down.
Oh also: people pay - and keep paying - for football even though it’s the same song and dance every year.
and Fran gets 3.3million just this year.
I agree that the rules of NIL are stupid, but for people to not want the players to reap benefits from the popularity of college sports its just very one sided in my opinion.
Can Fran contribute to the Swarm? lets say he gives 1mil for this year. 1mil divided by 15 players and each player get 66k in NIL money! He wouldn't do it and probably isn't allowed to do it but lets really not make it look like the players are the greedy ones.
And if a player decides he doesn’t like it anymore, he can quit halfway through the season, take his money, and change teams with no repercussions.
The pendulum has swung way too far in the other direction.
Ridiculous. Some people can care about the program yet have more important things to do with their spare cash, or maybe they don't have enough spare cash to throw at something like paying college athletes to play a game. Not everyone has cash growing on the trees in their back yard.
The "contribute or shut up" attitude is very shortsighted, IMO.
Shortsighted?
What is the long term benefit to complaining online and not otherwise supporting the team?
And kinda dumb.
How much of that hundreds of millions did Iowa players generate and who decides which player(s) generate the most money? Should Riley Mulvey make the same amount as Luka Garza? In your scenario, shouldn't the money come from the companies that are making the financial gains and not the fans who already pay to watch them play? Additionally, if the scholarship is no longer important then go to the G-league and wait until you are old enough. In the meantime, you can work and support yourself without having to be burdened with going to class and achieving a 'C'. For the ones who choose to go to college, the scholarship will cost the same as other students. If you want the scholarship, pay for it with your NIL. I would also like to hear your thoughts on why an all paid scholarship worth $100,000 or more is not some form of compensation for their time in college???
Should Mark Gronowski be getting $1.3 million in NIL? I don't think so, but unfortunately the market is what it is. The whole thing is insane, in my opinion. And he is going to get a revenue sharing payment, too.
What's the long term benefit to supporting the team? Sports are entertainment and nothing more. I don't understand the gatekeeping mindset of "do this or you aren't a real fan."
Which is why people, me included, are wandering away. Its almost like Stockholm syndrome with the bitter clingers except they are not captive. The financial support demands only drives the extremism to greater heights in a ridiculous cycle. People need to say no - unfortunately. Painful adjustments will be necessary. Not just Iowa btw.
Three quarters of the Iowa players should do Panera Bread commercials if they want to get paid.
Another thing that looks bad on the local fans is when the Hawka play at Des Moines, Sioux City and the Quad Cities in a sold out arenas. And then players tweet how great that is.
To be fair, those were all bigger name non-conference games. Iowa’s non-conference home schedule was atrocious.
To also be fair, we couldn't sell out Iowa St., Purdue, or any Big Ten game at home.
No, it says the opposite. Iowa follows through and pays what was promised. You can’t say the same about a lot of schools around the country.
So? I'm glad he made the comments and fans should feel guilty.
It's a fact that Iowa has a terrible fanbase all they do is bitch but 99% won't do a single thing to help in this NIL driven world.
When NIL is brought up Iowa fan is always complaining that some wealthy backer should be donating the money needed.
The fallback excuse #2 for Iowa fan is to get rid of the coach because I won't contribute for the current guy.
Fallback excuse #3 will be I've got to see some improvement before I contribute.
Fallback excuse #4 will be we made the wrong hire I won't contribute till they hire the right people.
Iowa fan always has an excuse not to give to NIL all the while the rest of the B1G moves on and up.
The notion that if Brad didn’t start swarm where would Iowa be. Odds are someone else would’ve. Be as good? Who knows my guess no. But after he stepped up first no reason for anyone else to start a collective.
I say he just needs to tone down the complaining rhetoric. Not appealing and does opposite of what he wants turning people off the swarm. I get he’s frustrated at times but reminds me of co worker who volunteers for committees and goes to conferences then flip side will complain he’s swamped with what all is on his plate. Not that we don’t appreciate what he’s doing but only so much venting we will take before say it’s your choice to do so. One thing I will say dealt a bad hand with first incompetent AD with NIL and started behind the 8 ball. still think goetz can do much more to work with the swarm to get them funds.
I say he just needs to tone down the complaining rhetoric. Not appealing and does opposite of what he wants turning people off the swarm. I get he’s frustrated at times but reminds me of co worker who volunteers for committees and goes to conferences then flip side will complain he’s swamped with what all is on his plate. Not that we don’t appreciate what he’s doing but only so much venting we will take before say it’s your choice to do so. One thing I will say dealt a bad hand with first incompetent AD with NIL and started behind the 8 ball. still think goetz can do much more to work with the swarm to get them funds.
“Skin in the game?” Is that What you’re advocating?Can mom and dad get reimbursed for their AAU expenses, at least?
What a concept!
I'm sorry if I have disappointed many of you with some of my candor. I can assure you that the purpose of the post I made was to respond to comments/accusations that I don't care about men's basketball, which is preposterous. I think this is another example of how things get misconstrued and taken out of context.
Anyway, I'm proud that we have upheld our end of every contract, and if you listen to former players like Nick Jackson (Washed Up Walkons recent episode), you will know that the Swarm helped land him in Iowa City.
Am I great at this? Absolutely not. Has anybody come to me and said "Brad, I can do better, hand me the keys!"??? Absolutely not. So until something changes, I will continue to fight for Iowa.
Go Hawks!
Brad
Anyway, I'm proud that we have upheld our end of every contract, and if you listen to former players like Nick Jackson (Washed Up Walkons recent episode), you will know that the Swarm helped land him in Iowa City.
Am I great at this? Absolutely not. Has anybody come to me and said "Brad, I can do better, hand me the keys!"??? Absolutely not. So until something changes, I will continue to fight for Iowa.
Go Hawks!
Brad
Brad,
You have been doing great things. I think most of us in this post are expressing their disappointment that Iowa men’s basketball has let you down, not the other way around.
I think that if you saw the context of each of my posts you will realize I complain very little. Or maybe I just need to more self-aware of how my words are construed. I will try to do better. This ain't easy, I can assure you.
The flip side of your co-worker complaint is that there are millions of people in this country with a “someone else will take care of it” attitude who do nothing themselves other than spout off all the things they think the person who did step up did wrong.
Do I think we wouldn’t have a collective without Brad? No. However, the people complaining about him are so annoying. If he didn’t step up, you and others would be saying “why can’t they get someone to step in.”
The other reality is there is only so much money to go around at Iowa. We aren’t Harvard, Texas, etc. Unfortunately, there may need to be some picking and choosing of what we can compete in. Maybe football, mens bball, womens bball, and wrestling can’t all be funded enough to compete to fans liking. Right now it’s mens bball that is taking the hit.
Gasser is a big fan of Iowa as it is well known.
It's really unfair of you to say what you did as he might be giving a contribution, but does he need to fund it by himself? No.
I'm sure there are lots of people who are donating and lots who are not. To call Gasser out because he is in the front row cheering and promoting Iowa athletics is no reason to call him out.
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Thank you for all your hard work. I am glad for fans like you who are willing to step up to the plate, and endure the slings and arrows from the whiners who like to complain but never do any of the work.
If I gave 10,000 for Iowa basketball, they would buy the team they currently have. They need someone with millions to throw away.
No regular fan would spend that type of money on sports when they could invest money on their kids or more important non=profit things that are more important than sport.
Every day I get older, combined with NIL, I could care less about college sports. Hence, the Chiefs don't ask me to pay to be a fan.
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